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11-19-2008, 07:13 AM
 
Unless Americans, and the rest of the fucking world....can get used to living without loans, credit carts, and buying ONLY the shit they CAN afford..then there might be an improvement.
But please...who are we kidding, that isn't going to happen.
 
 
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11-19-2008, 11:31 AM
 
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11-19-2008, 12:21 PM
 
u kno if usa goes down the rest of the countries will be greatly affected.

1st of all usa might just decide to stop most of the importing there doing and make all there stuuf from within so people will have jobs. but as wounded said there r money hungry rich peases of S*** out there.
 
 
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11-19-2008, 12:38 PM
 
Quote: Originally Posted by Forumer View Post
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The buyout as of the moment looks to be 4 times what Reuters reported in this article
Holy shit.... that article is old.
You just pointed something out that everybody has already heard about, and has already been done. It was titled The Paulson Bailout. The article there is from September, Forumer. The Paulson bailout was around $700-to-$850billion (USD) in total. About $250billion (USD) has been spent, thus far, in buying various toxic-assets. In total, summing up all of the other bailout packages that have passed, approximately $2trillion (USD - 2,000,000,000,000) has been spent by my Government, thus far.

Alas, as I said, this is old news, at this point. This thread would have been appropriate in September or early August... at this point, it isn't that America has fallen, but rather that it is putting up an admirable fight to stay alive (which might very well succeed - no matter how incompetent the leaders, bankers, and businessmen are, the economy has a way of righting itself to spite them).
 
 
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11-19-2008, 01:25 PM
 
In Latvia we just had the same problem,a private bank almost bankrupt because every1 was taking their money out of the accounts,so government had to do something,they bought the controlpacket(dunno how it is in English correct) and spent loads of money to save the bank from r.i.p. that means it is governments property now,not a private bank!!!the bank was very reliable,but the crisis did its job well(if u can say so)!!!hope it will get better in some time,I hope for the next winter,not earlier!!!

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11-19-2008, 07:01 PM
 
Quote: Originally Posted by Netrogor View Post
Holy shit.... that article is old.
You just pointed something out that everybody has already heard about, and has already been done. It was titled The Paulson Bailout. The article there is from September, Forumer. The Paulson bailout was around $700-to-$850billion (USD) in total. About $250billion (USD) has been spent, thus far, in buying various toxic-assets. In total, summing up all of the other bailout packages that have passed, approximately $2trillion (USD - 2,000,000,000,000) has been spent by my Government, thus far.

Alas, as I said, this is old news, at this point. This thread would have been appropriate in September or early August... at this point, it isn't that America has fallen, but rather that it is putting up an admirable fight to stay alive (which might very well succeed - no matter how incompetent the leaders, bankers, and businessmen are, the economy has a way of righting itself to spite them).
'shit'? Stop using those blasphemy words, sir.
 
 
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11-19-2008, 07:59 PM
 
o_O, America going down.... saw this on the news
 
 
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11-19-2008, 09:17 PM
 
Now that's surprising, dear gentleman. it was my nephew I suppose.
P.S. I posted in your blog.
 
 
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11-19-2008, 09:19 PM
 
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Now that's surprising, dear gentleman. it was my nephew I suppose.
P.S. I posted in your blog.
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11-19-2008, 10:37 PM
 
Quote: Originally Posted by LightWarrior View Post
Yeah like they can take us down........

It's all FOX News fault, them bastard spread bunch of liess.....Let's burn them down!!!
How many troops are in Iraq?
I sure hope we have a lot of people in the reserve.

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'shit'? Stop using those blasphemy words, sir.
If your going to use the word blasphemy use it right.
Also should I go and tell everyone that this is happening or just keep my mouth shut because it will smooth out later?
 
 
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11-19-2008, 10:41 PM
 
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How many troops are in Iraq?
I sure hope we have a lot of people in the reserve.
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U.S. SPENDING IN IRAQ

Spent & Approved War-Spending - About $600 billion of US taxpayers' funds. In June 2008, President Bush signed a bill approving about 200 billion more for 2008, which brings the cumulative total to close to $800 billion.

U.S. Monthly Spending in Iraq - $12 billion in 2008

U.S. Spending per Second - $5,000 in 2008 (per Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on May 5, 2008)

Cost of deploying one U.S. soldier for one year in Iraq - $390,000 (Congressional Research Service)

Lost & Unaccounted for in Iraq - $9 billion of US taxpayers' money and $549.7 milion in spare parts shipped in 2004 to US contractors. Also, per ABC News, 190,000 guns, including ****000 AK-47 rifles.

Missing - $1 billion in tractor trailers, tank recovery vehicles, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and other equipment and services provided to the Iraqi security forces. (Per CBS News on Dec 6, 2007.)

Mismanaged & Wasted in Iraq - $10 billion, per Feb 2007 Congressional hearings

Halliburton Overcharges Classified by the Pentagon as Unreasonable and Unsupported - $1.4 billion

Amount paid to KBR, a former Halliburton division, to supply U.S. military in Iraq with food, fuel, housing and other items - $20 billion

Portion of the $20 billion paid to KBR that Pentagon auditors deem "questionable or supportable" - $3.2 billion

Number of major U.S. bases in Iraq - 75 (The Nation/New York Times)

TROOPS IN IRAQ

Iraqi Troops Trained and Able to Function Independent of U.S. Forces - 6,000 as of May 2007 (per NBC's "Meet the Press" on May 20, 2007)

Troops in Iraq - Total 152,400, including 146,000 from the US, 4,000 from the UK, 900 from Poland, 650 from South Korea and 850 from all other nations

U.S. Troop Casualties - 4,193 US troops; 98% male. 91% non-officers; 82% active duty, 11% National Guard; 74% Caucasian, 9% African-American, 11% Latino. 19% killed by non-hostile causes. 54% of US casualties were under 25 years old. 72% were from the US Army

Non-U.S. Troop Casualties - Total 313, with 176 from the UK

US Troops Wounded - 30,774, 20% of which are serious brain or spinal injuries (total excludes psychological injuries)

US Troops with Serious Mental Health Problems - 30% of US troops develop serious mental health problems within 3 to 4 months of returning home

US Military Helicopters Downed in Iraq - 68 total, at least 36 by enemy fire
Quote: Originally Posted by time.com
Currently 26,000 of the Army's 190,000 Reservists are on active duty, including 6,600 in Iraq and 5,700 in Afghanistan.
On another note, the US DOW went down another 400+ points, bringing it down to 7.9k
 
 
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11-19-2008, 10:44 PM
 
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US Troops with Serious Mental Health Problems - 30% of US troops develop serious mental health problems within 3 to 4 months of returning home
Wow
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11-20-2008, 02:06 AM
 
War does nothing but bad on the people who can't deal with it. You need to be real tough to be able to kill without regrets.
 
 
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11-20-2008, 05:17 PM
 
Quote: Originally Posted by I Rule MU View Post
For us, we have it guaranteed up to $250,000 now. And I can assure you that like 90% of the US does not have that much in savings so they can put it all in and still know its safe. But the hype that the fucking media creates drives fear into the population and these problems begin.
There is just 1 huge difference between the US and for example the Netherlands where we guarantee 100.000 euro, and that's that we can actually give people that money, the US has no money, it's debts are huge and are only getting bigger, if all the banks drop then it makes no difference how much the US guarantees, it's not like they even have the money to give to people.

The simple fact is that the US screwed itself, and the rest of the world over with your crappy politics. In the Netherlands we had 1 bank that was about to go down, and what did we do? Right, we bought it, we made sure we didn't screw up like the US did. And to think that our government isn't nearly as good as it should be, but compared to the US we're saints.

Now i do agree that removing the money makes it all worse, but tbh i would do the same, as like i said, the US does NOT have the money to actually guarantee that money. Also if i were those people i would exchange dollars to euro's, because once it all does go completely to hell, the dollar will drop bigtime.
 
 
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11-20-2008, 07:52 PM
 
Damn, fine gentleman, you have simply stolen my words.
Talking about my mom now, huh? you sad fucking cocksucker...
oh, BY THE WAY...I tested your mom last night and(I'm not joking)she sucked my cock without even making it wet! HOLY SHIT... sooner or later she will be on ripley's believe it or not!
 
 
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11-20-2008, 07:56 PM
 
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11-20-2008, 09:10 PM
 
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11-20-2008, 09:21 PM
 
Quote: Originally Posted by Alphabeat View Post
We made America going down, so we can make it going better too.
I agree with you!
 
 
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11-20-2008, 09:22 PM
 
I didnt help america go down
 
 
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11-21-2008, 06:58 PM
 
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Infractions given to several users

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11-23-2008, 07:35 PM
 
I agree with Forumer, America is truly going down.
 
 
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11-25-2008, 11:43 PM
 
Who all read about the Citigroup bailout?
Did they also read about Citigroup's revised Terms of Agreement for their credit cards and those they have loaned money out to?
If you ever default on a payment, or cannot honor a payment, or fail to pay in an orderly fashion, etc... without exception, the interest rate on your loan/credit-card is raised either by 23.99% or to 29%, whichever results in the higher number, on a month-to-month basis. That means that if you have a $5000 loan, and fail to pay it off on time just once, or rather pay in a fashion deemed intolerable, even if you make payments of $128 a month, it will take you five years to pay that loan off, and you'll have paid back $15000. That's three times what you took out.

I hope none of you had stock in Citigroup... considering 90% of their value disintegrated in the course of a single week.
 
 
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11-26-2008, 12:31 AM
 
Quote: Originally Posted by Netrogor View Post
Who all read about the Citigroup bailout?
Did they also read about Citigroup's revised Terms of Agreement for their credit cards and those they have loaned money out to?
If you ever default on a payment, or cannot honor a payment, or fail to pay in an orderly fashion, etc... without exception, the interest rate on your loan/credit-card is raised either by 23.99% or to 29%, whichever results in the higher number, on a month-to-month basis. That means that if you have a $5000 loan, and fail to pay it off on time just once, or rather pay in a fashion deemed intolerable, even if you make payments of $128 a month, it will take you five years to pay that loan off, and you'll have paid back $15000. That's three times what you took out.

I hope none of you had stock in Citigroup... considering 90% of their value disintegrated in the course of a single week.
Hahhahaha, that's ridiculous.
It's funny, the government is bailing them for a second time now aren't they?
Honestly none of this is making sense. It's so hypocritical, how when people are in financial trouble with these big companies, they get into even more shit, and when these same companies are in shit, they get bailed out by the government.
 
 
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11-26-2008, 12:56 AM
 
You only could've seen this coming, innit?
 
 
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