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i think it was verry stupid considering ati is gonne release there new dx 10 cards whitin 2 months , and for the same price u r gonne get a card that's probaby around 25/ 30% faster then that card
and u wil need a intel e6700 cpu or better or that graficks card will have a massive bottleneck and u would of been better of with the cheaper 8800 gts one
Most games an e6300 is enough to hit ther bottle neck. e6600 is ideal and not the e6700.
And with ATI. It'll cost $600 USD. So him getting it for $400 is already a damn good deal. And with the ATI. It uses about 250w of power where as the 8800GTX uses much less.
Sure it's faster but the 8800 will be more efficient and cheaper.
Only 900 points better on 3dmark05?
And only 400 points better on 3dmark06?
If those specs are what the current market is shooting for.. ATI is doomed, especially since the R600 is going to be priced higher then the (upcoming) 8900 series.. and the 8900 series is going to blow the r600 out of the water (going by what I read in those benchmarks) Sure, it did beat most of the benchmarks, but msot of them were VERY marginal, and youd never feel teh difference between 80 fps and 100 fps in a game.. pushing 70 the game is ats lagless as it can get
Not really sure the 8900's will blow way the x2900's. It'll probally be like the 7900GTX vs x1900XTX. Each wins at their own games and this time around there will be equal image quality.
So the winner will be down to efficency. And that's where the 8900s will blow away the x2900's.
Even the 8800's are more efficient then the x2900s and they are just marginally slower.
So you'll have a $550 8900GTX performing the same as the $600 x2900XTX and I know which one I'll go for. The cheaper one that runs cooler.
Though with the dual card setups it'll be a different story. SLI wins hands down.
So I don't expect the $600 x2900XTX2 will be better then the $600 8950GX2.
BTW, the quadcore sucks hardcore.. its only good for server managed groups... its support is nil, and it doesnt have the right process drivers to cope with any game sbeing written out. a dual cor eis all you need.. jsut take a look at the benchies
Actually there is a game out there that makes use of quad cores. =P
Supreme Commander actually does.
And not to mention. With dual threaded apps like the Source engine and the Quake 3 engine there'll be boost if you manually set each one of the thread to run on their own core a side from teh one the OS is using. But then again that's a pain in the butt to do every time you want to play a game. =P
But anyways a faster dual core would be better in gamming anyways then a slower quad core. A x6800 running at 3.6ghz will be much better then a qx6700 running at 3.0-3.2ghz.
So, in short.. unless those benchmarks get any better, then the 8800 GTS/GTX are going to be the kings fo rprice/performance still.. and most especially when the 8900 series comes out.
Oh yeah. Can't forget about the price drops with the 8900's release.
For under $400 you can get yourself an 8800GTS 640 and for just over $400 you should get yourself a GTX.
hehe, as soon as they come out, the GTX will probably drop down to the ~$500 range give or take, which will in effect cause a small amount of peopel to upgrade to the r600, but the smart ones will fire right up to the GTX... or for the even smarter, they will buy a GTS to tide them until the next series 8900++++'s come out
But the 8900's will be there to meet the R600's. =P
By the way the MSRP should be as follows:
$600 - 8950GX2, x2900XTX, x2900XTX2
$550 - 8900GTX
$500 - 8900GTX, x2900XT
$450 - 8800GTX
$400 - 8800GTS 640
And as usual it'll probally be $50 less then MSRP online exectp for the top ones.
LMAO,Dude there is a ppl that addicted to Nvidia and will buy thier newest g-card even thought they SURLY know that ATI Will pwn thier card lol
And there are people that will buy AMD products even though Intel (CPU) or nVidia (AMD) are better.
That's what you call a fan boy. And that's why I am not. I buy the best of the two. =P
Lots of facts to consider as well.. Im not calling myself a fanboy for any reason.. but with them being on the market, it means games are using 'their' current advances, which gives them a headstart on the competative drivers edge. Experience in the market is handy.. and the r600 is goign to be the first they make, as opposed to a company thats already had one out for several months already.
So in the end. You'll see tons of DX10 games run better on nVidia since they are the only ones with DX10 cards and games will use features suited to thoes cards.
Another reason why nVidia will perform better especially in DX10.
And about the motherboards (to lazy to qoute and reply to each post).
Epox is a crap brand. They are cheap and used by system builders simply because they are cheap. You don't hear of problems with tehm because most of the people that uses them doesn't even know what a motherboard is.
With DFI, ASUS, Gigabyte, and other big name board. You have people who knows what motherboards are and can report errors when they see them.
So you see. With high end boards there seems to be lots of problems with them but that's only because people know that they are the cause of it. Where as with cheap boards the average owner doesn't even know what a mother board is much less who makes it and cannot report the errors because of it.
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