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Old 05-16-2009   #1 (permalink)
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[GENERAL] This is why you dont make your Retro Famous (A MUST READ)

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Well, me and PoiZones famous hotel Epichotel.co.uk got owned by sulake, heres the details. We recieved about 500 people online daily.

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Dear Customer

We have recieved this letter from Sulake and will act upon it, please read.

We will also notify the other website owners in due course.

Yours Sincerely
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Dear Webmaster,

Please find attached a letter addressed to you. Please forward this to the
Client also.

It has come to your attention that the website: www.epichotel.co.uk has
remained online despite a recent attempt to reach mutual agreement on website
termination, on a previous webhost.

This is the client's second and final formal warning. After much discussion
with our legal team, and the solicitors Clarke and Willmott with whom you
spoke recently, acting on our behalf in the United Kingdom; we have decided
that should the clients not terminate the copyright and illegal content from
their website within 48 hours we will commence with court proceedings and legal
action against www.epichotel.co.uk

Any associated webhosts who continue to host the website upon receipt of
this email will also be liable for legal action, in 'co-hersing' and
'endorsing' copyright material.

The owners of the website will be liable to be sued for monetary loss and
copyright infringement to the claimant Sulake in association with
Habbohotel.co.uk.


The disclaimer on the site- www.epichotel.co.uk would be deemed as invalid
as this does not negate legal action as verified by Solicitor Advocate Mr
Paul Willcott.

On a further note should the site seek to change hosts or domain, this
would see us posting summons of court to the parties involved, as they have been
formally warned.

Please send all future correspondence to our solicitors personal email of
which authority has been given - willcottllp@rocketmail.com of Clarke and
Willmott.

Sincerely,

-- Jussi Kari Legal Assistant Sulake Corporation Mob. +358 40 186 8205 Fax:
+358 10 656 7010 Address: Sulake Corporation Oy Korkeavuorenkatu 35, 00130,
Helsinki Finland

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Re: This is why you dont make your Retro Famous (A MUST READ)

  1. That's why you get "OFFSHORE" hosting and etc..
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  1. That's why you get "OFFSHORE" hosting and etc..
Nah this is our second notice, our first one was from offshore hosting.
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Nah this is our second notice, our first one was from offshore hosting.
Well my hotel was popular, as much as yours (Echo Hotel), we had offshore hosting as well, we didn't get not "1" notice from Sulake and we were open for 7 months.
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Well,
That sucks,
G/l with it,
and Echo,
Your hotel didnt have 200+ users daily,
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Well my hotel was popular, as much as yours (Echo Hotel), we had offshore hosting as well, we didn't get not "1" notice from Sulake and we were open for 7 months.
lol our hotels been opened since like december 2008 so about 5 months :P, though this got famous really quickly. :P
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Well,
That sucks,
G/l with it,
and Echo,
Your hotel didnt have 200+ users daily,
Excuse me? I never typed that, I just said we were AS FAMOUS. Which means we had 100+. They didn't always get 200+ daily, but I've gotten 200+ a variety of times, so I mean why go overboard?
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what does offshore mean anyways



and LOL @ epic hotel lmaoo
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Offshore means the webiste is hosted outside UK and USA, they are usually more relaxed on laws.
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ohhh i see ty
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Originally Posted by AresCJ View Post
Well my hotel was popular, as much as yours (Echo Hotel), we had offshore hosting as well, we didn't get not "1" notice from Sulake and we were open for 7 months.
I didn't think it mattered, on or offshore hosting, I thought they could still get the person who upoaded the files sued..
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I got the exact same email 3 years ago. It came with an acrobat reader document, right?
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well if u had tht email then ur hotel woulda been closed by now

the email he got i think he had to close his hotel or they would be in court

so im sure ur email wasnt tht threatning or u wouldnt have ur hotel up right now lol.
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I got the exact same email 3 years ago. It came with an acrobat reader document, right?
Ye it came with PDF document and a GIF
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Well,
That sucks,
G/l with it,
and Echo,
Your hotel didnt have 200+ users daily,
I belived that Echo had a user limit of around 200, and that only increased just before it closed down (It realy should re-open) and before that it's limit was 100
Towards the end it was reaching 200+ around every day, Yes I no this because i spent/wasted alot of time playing on it.
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Thats why you dont go advertising everywhere.And make it a Rule in the Hotel that you are aloud to advertise your friends but no one else.
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I think it is already established that:
1) Sulake will ask to to take the site down
2) ONLY if you don't will they sue you (it's alot of legal hassle)
3) As seen from the letter, disclaimers are pointless

I'm sorry for your loss, and I'm pretty sure my hotel will be shut down pretty soon. :(

Also, what server where you using to handle all that users? Can you PM me a copy?
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They were using the leaked V31 :P
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I think it is already established that:
1) Sulake will ask to to take the site down
2) ONLY if you don't will they sue you (it's alot of legal hassle)
3) As seen from the letter, disclaimers are pointless

I'm sorry for your loss, and I'm pretty sure my hotel will be shut down pretty soon. :(

Also, what server where you using to handle all that users? Can you PM me a copy?

I was using the V31 server. Its pretty stable if you think about it.
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I love how Sulake lies and says that the emulator is copyright of Sulake? O_o
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And just for proof at you guys saying I didn't get a warning, here is mine from 1 - 2 years ago; http://uploadpicz.com/images/V4MHW9S.png && I need to download acrobat reader again to view the attatchment, so I might do it later and get a picture for you.
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host your site in sweden and they cant make your anything :) ThePiratebay is still alive so...
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How do they know your E-mail?
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How do they know your E-mail?
We was hosting our site via a 12gb of RAM Dedi lulz - Therefore they got Chris's(PoiZone's) email via the Data Center.
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