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    The Deep Web or The Present Web

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    Greetings once again RaGEZONE! I provide you with another Debate, you may seem it as odd, or great... All your opinions. This may seem like a 'different' question than your daily debates seen.

    ---Which would you prefer to use The Deep Web, or The Present Web? And for What reason?---

    In my honest opinion,

    I would prefer to use the Deep web for good and helpful information even though it's quite scary in many ways.

    Also, if you don't know what The Deep Web is... Here's a Link/Description

    It is a long text-wall, please read it and there is a download inside to ACCESS the Deep Web!


    Spoiler:

    Easy tutorial video here. I suggest watching it! : How to access the Deep Web/Hidden Wiki - YouTube

    THIS IS LONG, BUT WORTH THE READ.

    For those who don't know, the deep web represents a gargantuan part of the internet which is not accessible through regular searches via google or other search engines.

    Searching on the Internet today can be compared to dragging a net across the surface of the ocean. While a great deal may be caught in the net, there is still a wealth of information that is deep, and therefore, missed. The reason is simple: Most of the Web's information is buried far down on dynamically generated sites, and standard search engines never find it.

    Here are some facts on The Deep Web:

    · Public information on the deep Web is currently 400 to 550 times larger than the commonly defined World Wide Web.

    · The deep Web contains 7,500 terabytes of information compared to 19 terabytes of information in the surface Web.

    · The deep Web contains nearly 550 billion individual documents compared to the 1 billion of the surface Web.

    · More than 200,000 deep Web sites presently exist.

    · Sixty of the largest deep-Web sites collectively contain about 750 terabytes of information — sufficient by themselves to exceed the size of the surface Web forty times.

    · The deep Web is the largest growing category of new information on the Internet.

    · Deep Web sites tend to be narrower, with deeper content, than conventional surface sites.

    · Total quality content of the deep Web is 1,000 to 2,000 times greater than that of the surface Web.

    · Deep Web content is highly relevant to every information need, market, and domain.

    · More than half of the deep Web content resides in topic-specific databases.

    · A full ninety-five per cent of the deep Web is publicly accessible information — not subject to fees or subscriptions.

    What lies beneath the surface is a who's who of hackers, scientists, drug dealers, astronomers, assassins, physicists, revolutionaries, Government officials, Police, Feds, terrorists, perverts, data miners, kidnappers, sociologists, etc. As you can tell, the party goes across the entire moral spectrum.

    I find this subject to be utterly fascinating which needs to be studied further. Whilst there are tons of bad seeds who inhabit this deep web, there's also good seeds who wish to spread their information quickly and most often anonymously, to avoid legal or ethical ramifications.

    In order to access the deep web you use the Tor browser in addition to the Tor extension for Firefox. This is a good starting point.

    And then access the Hidden Wiki which is a small but useful reference point to start on your journey of the deep web. kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion

    They got folks who literally can go toe to toe with Anon on there. Dudes who are really dangerous in the sense they are near omnipotent. This is where the serious computer viruses are made and where plots are made. They have security viruses and everything.

    SCREENSHOT OF THE HIDDEN WIKI: http://i.imgur.com/Xq7ih.png

    The reason the "Deep Web" is the way it is is because only about 10 percent of what's on the internet is generally/commercially interesting. Sure you could dig deep into the annals of the information superhighway but most if it is raw information. It's not packaged and easily digestible like stumbleupon or tumblr. They are websites that purposely don't get pinged to search engines so they are harder to find.

    To sum it up, it's basically a private section of server space to share data off record. All that wiki leaks stuffed that leaked a couple months back? That's been on deep web for years. Ever seen a movie and see the bad guy or hacker loggin' into some weird looking private server? that's all real. Generally, terrorist networks, spy agencies, drug dealers, assassins-for-hire, and those looking for child porn lurk around those parts. There's a Hidden Wiki, there, and on the wiki they're categories of links. There are things like blogs, forums (from normal to revolutionary to blatantly illegal), Tor-enabled instant messaging and chat, anonymous file hosting, anonymous financing, anonymous tipping and information exchanges, information on computer security/anonymity, info on warez/cracks/hacking, all the books, music, movies you can possibly imagine, even links to sports betting and trade information, links to international drug markets, prostitution rings, assassin markets, black market products, child pornography, Some of societies most deviant people use this network. Not just those that browse the sites on there but also those who create it and manage them..and it's almost impossible to find either of the offenders.

    Even underground fighting tournaments to the death (I'm not joking very real very organized). Very Real trained professional fighters. It may seem surreal but they are guys that train with the best and want no part of UFC or any fight league. Dudes who really enjoy fighting to the death. It's just crazy explaining it it's not some barroom brawl. These things happen and alot of millionaires pay big money to see them. Modern Gladiator battles. I heard there are some with humans vs animals.

    However, 0.00000001% of all data on the dark web is stuff normal people will be able to access, understand and use. And even a small fraction of that is illegal stuff.. its not like some hardcore underground network of spies, killers, pedos and criminals. The rest % is used by their respected authorities.

    Don't be an idiot and start clicking on links you see on the hiddenwiki, but poke your head in the door you'll see its not modern anarchy in there.

    While the information on the deep web is vastly overwhelming, it should not be feared. In most aspects, the information is just there, it's what you choose to do with the information that can lead you to trouble and imprisonment. Producing, storing, exchanging, transferring information.

    Before you begin I suggest learning how the deep web works and what you can do to better protect yourself against intruders and anything that can compromise your true anonymity

    I'll post how to get on the Hidden Wiki next.

    Here is a screenshot of a typical source in the Deep Web: http://i56.tinypic.com/241wnj5.png.

    This is like some post apacolyptic world where they only accept the bizarre currency bitcoins and all the websites look like they are from 1990's era geocities.

    BTC's are the deep web's form of currency.. bitcoins.
    This **** is hilarious, bizarre, and terrifying..
    half the time the sites dont work and result in the most cryptic jargon filled errors. the other half, you wait ten minutes for it to load only to see something which shocks you because of how serious it is. this is where the hackers hang out. The can use your own webcam to spy on you. (srs)

    I know what you're thinking some of the best hackers around and the server is slow as. The servers are probably used to a pretty small amount of traffic. With the attention deep web has got from niketalk and anon. in the last few days they are probably struggling a bit I reckon. Could be wrong on that but basically patience is a necessity in the deep web.

    Now I'm just a cog in the machine. A really big machine. And really just relaying information found on other fora as mentioned already. I'm just trying to find people that are in it already. I want to know what they're saying on current events, Libya, Nasa investigation on that metorite, higher alien life forms, where Adrian Wojnarowski gets his trade information from etc

    While the information on the deep web is vastly overwhelming, it should not be feared. In most aspects, the information is just there, it's what you choose to do with the information that can lead you to trouble and imprisonment. Producing, storing, exchanging, transferring information.

    Before you begin I suggest learning how the deep web works and what you can do to better protect yourself against intruders and anything that can compromise your true anonymity

    Here, you can read up more about the deep web: Deep Web - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This has information on what the .onion network is and how it works: .onion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Here is where you can read up on TOR: Tor (anonymity network) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    GUIDE TO GET ON DEEP WEB

    From there, you can get the tor bundle at https://www.torproject.org/download/...d-easy.html.en

    Click Start Tor Browser once you have completed the steps.

    Firefox will open up with this as the main page

    From there, you are now somewhat anonymous and can now access .onion and the hidden web.

    Keep in mind that Tor is not 100% anonymous...multiple proxies are needed in addition to tor, of course a firewall and Antivirus as well. I'd disconnect or put tape over my webcam , disable javascript cookies, temp data, use ccleaner...

    Hope this helped.


    Credits;
    Me for the Debate
    Lex on another area that provided the information of The Deep Web.

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    Neither. The two should co-exist, at least until we are forced to use IPv6, then, I suspect, the deep web will be the only way to go.

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    can ya please give a short explanation of the deep web? i read half of that "article" and barely got anything.
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    i just wanted to ask if can u use gm commands even if ur not a GM

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash1369 View Post
    can ya please give a short explanation of the deep web? i read half of that "article" and barely got anything.
    This picture might help sum it up.


    I think both have their advantages, so it's best for both to co-exist (until one or the other becomes unmanageable (censorship, risk, etc)).

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    In fact deep web is mostly hacker organizations , hidden files , copyrighted stuff , and such.
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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    The OP describes it as stuff which can only be accessed via secured proxy tunnelling. There is some of that, but the more important stuff, for me, is just the pages which specifically make them-self spiderproof. If you keep a homepage, and organise server side scripting so that all URLs within your site are dynamic, then no search engine can reliably list content on your site. You can also specify "no spiders" and / or "no robots" in the HTTP headers, but some search engines will disregard such things. You can set your daemon to block IPs which are behaving in a generally automated manner too. (for example, if the IP accesses objects in the order they appear on parent pages, and follows links faster than most humans can read, they are probably spidering)

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    people who have no idea what there doing on the present web should not go on the deep web as theyd get ate up so fast its not even funny.
    It is human nature to fear that which is true and you disagree with. Anger, frustration and hate are the callous cousins that follow. Broaden your mindset.

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    tldr; Whoever want to buy some grenades or some ice, get Tor.



    And why's this thread part of debate?

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    I've heard that if you use this the FBI will track you down or some shit. Is this true?

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
    I've heard that if you use this the FBI will track you down or some shit. Is this true?
    Sure, if you do something illegal like deliberately browse CP, order drugs or get involved with human trafficking, etc.
    You would get in trouble the same way you would on surface web.

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
    I've heard that if you use this the FBI will track you down or some shit. Is this true?
    The FBI track everything everyone does. Certain things flag people up for "special attention", a friend of mine was an avid communist, and ran a website which he personally filled with considerable communist propaganda, both historical and contemporary... he was tracked by the FBI for a few years, but since he's not subversive or advocating violence, nothing ever came of it. They may, indeed, have been looking to track others who frequented his site.

    U.S. officials get very upset that the E.U. (among other places, UAE etc.) allows it's citizens to use "strong encryption" (such as used in the TOR / Onion network) which are illegal, simply because it taxes the NSAs code-cracking super-computers too much.

    If you are in the U.S. I imagine that using (or even downloading) this software is an "illegal import", and they could send customs officers (or even the F.B.I.) around to arrest you. But I'm not, and I imagine many of us here are not. I do have a right to personal, and professional privacy which U.S. citizens do not have.

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    Re: The Deep Web or The Present Web

    I would prefer to use the Deep Web.


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