HD-DVD lost the war?

themasher · 05:43 AM

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Time Warner's Warner Bros. movie studio announced today that they will no longer produce films in HD DVD format from June 2008 and that they will become Blu-ray exclusive. With this move, Blu-ray will own 70% of the high definition market share

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Blu-ray exclusive studios now include:
- Sony Pictures (MGM, Columbia, Tristar)
- Disney (Pixar, Buena Vista, Miramax)
- 20th Century Fox
- Warner Bros. (New Line Cinema)
- Lion Gate Films

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Warner will continue to release HD DVD titles until the end of May 2008, after which it will become Blu-ray exclusive.

still making DVD till HD is the main.

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HD DVD group cancels CES press conference in wake of Warner announcement

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TOKYO, Jan. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Toshiba is quite surprised by Warner
Bros.' decision to abandon HD DVD in favor of Blu-ray, despite the fact
that there are various contracts in place between our companies concerning
the support of HD DVD. As central members of the DVD Forum, we have long
maintained a close partnership with Warner Bros. We worked closely together
to help standardize the first-generation DVD format as well as to define
and shape HD DVD as its next-generation successor.

We were particularly disappointed that this decision was made in spite
of the significant momentum HD DVD has gained in the US market as well as
other regions in 2007. HD DVD players and PCs have outsold Blu-ray in the
US market in 2007.

We will assess the potential impact of this announcement with the other
HD DVD partner companies and evaluate potential next steps. We remain firm
in our belief that HD DVD is the format best suited to the wants and needs
of the consumer.
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**Becky** · 01-05-2008, 03:55 AM

When I heard Disney was going to be Blu-ray only a while back, I figured this would be the case :P

**Wh005h** · 01-05-2008, 04:07 AM

Yah! Go Blu-Ray!
My Dad told me they wouldn't make it sense you have to get a new player but I'll show him ^_^

Neverending · 01-05-2008, 04:13 AM

Good news for Sony I guess!

Nuklear · 01-05-2008, 04:15 AM

Aw God... now I have to buy a new player...

**GiantRobert** · 01-05-2008, 04:17 AM

Mustn't-let-sony-win!

To the protest bus!

TBH I don't see why it's such a big deal, already players that play both disks have been released. This is just going to piss off everyone who already owns a HD-DVD player therefore making companies now selling the disks less money. I bet you can already buy black market disks of either one anyway so it's just fuelling that market.

**GohanSSJ** · 01-05-2008, 04:17 AM

Question is, will Blu-Ray make it?

The amount of Blu-Ray users is way to small, if they can't get their userbase up a lot fast, then a new format like the holographic disc could come in before they get the chance to set Blu-Ray as the new standard.

**I Rule MU** · 01-05-2008, 04:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Nuklear

Aw God... now I have to buy a new player...

me too... :(

lets protest?

**LadiesMan217** · 01-05-2008, 04:30 AM

Blu-ray player is fkcing expensive and now they going blu-ray exclusive? fck it. Ill just gonna watch the dam movie in theater or download from any warez sites.

I agree with Gohan, there are only a small of people that own Blu-ray player and hell, it fcking expensive

Neverending · 01-05-2008, 04:36 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Liselotte

Blu-ray player is fkcing expensive and now they going blu-ray exclusive? fck it. Ill just gonna watch the dam movie in theater or download from any warez sites.

I agree with Gohan, there are only a small of people that own Blu-ray player and hell, it fcking expensive

What's the matter actually? They are going Blu-Ray exclusive but they'll still release all of their movies on DVD as far as I know. It's just that Blu-Ray dominates the high definition market (Correct me if I'm wrong).

**LadiesMan217** · 01-05-2008, 04:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Neverending

What's the matter actually? They are going Blu-Ray exclusive but they'll still release all of their movies on DVD as far as I know. It's just that Blu-Ray dominates the high definition market (Correct me if I'm wrong).

oh i thought they gonna release every movie from June 2008 in Blu-ray. >.<

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It's just that Blu-Ray dominates the high definition market

correct but not many people own blu-ray because the plyer is expensive and you need a hdtv to play it and hdtv is kinda expensive too. if they lower the price, my family are definitely switch to Blu-ray and say goodbye to DVD. We currently using DVD.

themasher · 01-05-2008, 04:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Liselotte

correct but not many people own blu-ray because the plyer is expensive and you need a hdtv to play it and hdtv is kinda expensive too. if they lower the price, my family are definitely switch to Blu-ray and say goodbye to DVD. We currently using DVD.

I got a blu-ray player connected to my SDTV and it works o.O

Neverending · 01-05-2008, 04:58 AM

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Warner Home Video will continue to release its titles in standard DVD format and Blu-ray. After a short window following their standard DVD and Blu-ray releases, all new titles will continue to be released in HD DVD until the end of May 2008.

DVD and Blu-Ray =]

themasher · 01-05-2008, 05:45 AM

they canceled their CES '08 press conference. i think they are gonna be out soon. lol they said they believe HD-DVD is the way to go o.O

**NoPeace** · 01-05-2008, 07:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Becky

When I heard Disney was going to be Blu-ray only a while back, I figured this would be the case :P

How so? :1:

Last time Disney backed something, it failed! Back in the days of Sony's Beta Max VS VHS. Disney backed Sony and because of it, Beta Max never took off.

Disney denied the right of publishers to put porn on the Beta Max and that's why VHS won. Though this time around Disney tried it but people ignored them.

Quote: Originally Posted by Wh005h

Yah! Go Blu-Ray!
My Dad told me they wouldn't make it sense you have to get a new player but I'll show him ^_^

It doesn't really. Since there are 2 formats out there at the moment.

Though I myself have both and that's why I buy HD movies. And if you don't have an HD TV then it makes no since at all. ;)

Quote: Originally Posted by Robert

Mustn't-let-sony-win!

To the protest bus!

TBH I don't see why it's such a big deal, already players that play both disks have been released. This is just going to piss off everyone who already owns a HD-DVD player therefore making companies now selling the disks less money. I bet you can already buy black market disks of either one anyway so it's just fuelling that market.

Those combo drives are a joke. They cost $1200 on average and you can buy two stand alone players for half that cost.

Quote: Originally Posted by GohanSSJ

Question is, will Blu-Ray make it?

The amount of Blu-Ray users is way to small, if they can't get their userbase up a lot fast, then a new format like the holographic disc could come in before they get the chance to set Blu-Ray as the new standard.

Look at DVDs to be honest. A year and half after their introduction it was a smaller user base then BluRay is after a year and half after their introduction.

And holo disks wont be out for about 7 years in the mainstream and what will they offer? Nothing much else then what current HDDVD's and BluRay Disks offer. Sure more storage but with the current HD resolutions all you need is a good 50gb disk and that's it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Liselotte

Blu-ray player is fkcing expensive and now they going blu-ray exclusive? fck it. Ill just gonna watch the dam movie in theater or download from any warez sites.

I agree with Gohan, there are only a small of people that own Blu-ray player and hell, it fcking expensive

Not that expensive anymore. They cost $300-400 depending if you can find them on sale and you also get 5 movies with that.

If you want a good high end DVD unconverter you will be spending $250-300 anyways. So spending an extra $100 for a true HD player and you get $150 in movies for free with it anyways.

Quote: Originally Posted by Neverending

What's the matter actually? They are going Blu-Ray exclusive but they'll still release all of their movies on DVD as far as I know. It's just that Blu-Ray dominates the high definition market (Correct me if I'm wrong).

BluRay does dominate because of the fact that the PS3 is the most sold HD player and biggest studios back BluRay with the exclusion of Universal and Dreamworks.

Quote: Originally Posted by Liselotte

oh i thought they gonna release every movie from June 2008 in Blu-ray. >.<

They will be and they have been. All of their releases up till now have been on all 3 formats: DVD, HDDVD, and BluRay.

Just after June they wont be doing HDDVD no more.

Quote: Originally Posted by Liselotte

correct but not many people own blu-ray because the plyer is expensive and you need a hdtv to play it and hdtv is kinda expensive too. if they lower the price, my family are definitely switch to Blu-ray and say goodbye to DVD. We currently using DVD.

Not really. There are millions of BluRay players out there. Simply because of the fact that there are millions of PS3s out there.

And if you haven't been into an electronic store lately then you wouldn't know that most SDTVs that support digital signals are only about $50-100 lower then a small LCD HDTV. This is for NA that is.

NoPeace - out

Mazo · 01-05-2008, 05:12 PM

From what I last heard 50% of people with PS3's don't know it has bluray capabilities, and another 30% have no use for it. I'm not sure how accurate those figures are but there you have it.

**Sardaukar** · 01-05-2008, 06:27 PM

It -had- to be done, and better sooner or later. God, it sucks to be microsoft right now (HD) ;)

Shortor · 01-05-2008, 08:15 PM

it'll go the same as DVD's, if you wait a few months a BluRay writer will cost 30 euros ;p

theRAGE · 01-05-2008, 09:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Becky

When I heard Disney was going to be Blu-ray only a while back, I figured this would be the case :P

Pester power + Hannah Montana = Blu-ray win

It's just simple maths ;O

**NoPeace** · 01-06-2008, 06:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Sardaukar

It -had- to be done, and better sooner or later. God, it sucks to be microsoft right now (HD) ;)

Actually. MS only backed HDDVD to cause the war. Because they have other plans. Downloadable videos. ;)

Take a look at the XBL marketplace and it's full of moves to download in both HD and SD.

That is what they are actually backing.

NoPeace - out

nathan123 · 01-06-2008, 09:03 PM

I hope Blu-ray wins, its about time philips won something!

themasher · 01-06-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by nathan123

I hope Blu-ray wins, its about time philips won something!

hmm? Phillips isn't even part of the BDA. what did they win?

theRAGE · 01-06-2008, 10:22 PM

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hmm? Phillips isn't even part of the BDA. what did they win?

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Xenosaga21 · 01-09-2008, 07:12 AM

;) I say everything is going to get outdone by Downloads to Hard Drives.

1.) Why buy or rent a DvD when you can Download it and avoid walking at all?
2.) The internet is fast enough to stream entire movies (Tvlinks) etc. . .
3.) Hd Dvds / DL/ BLu ;) They all get scratched and get tossed / lost.

In the End Everything is going to be on Solid State media if you ask me ;) Optical is just too slow/large to store/maintain.

Look at what Apple is doing with Ipod's in the ways of Video / streaming media (youtube) etc. . . its the way of the future. SSD PWONS OPTICAL MEDIA!!!

Regurgitate · 07-11-2008, 05:28 AM

But.. But.. Blu-Ray is expensive!

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