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So I'll fill you in. RaGEZONE / Nexon / FT and a court case.

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also i forgot to mention if anyone is worried about the ip being safe just send me an e-mail ---> wickedloops@gmail.com
ill tell everything i do to protect my ip, and protection from spyware as well. without losing Internet access.

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i totally agree with on that. im not big on korean maplestory... pretty much cause im not korean and the only thing i know is that they had a recent change its like maplestory legend or something. But im not sure if PVP is going to be valuable or not i haven't tried nexon's version of PVP. but i do think its an essential for players to test their skills. Nexon also wants to do everything they can to keep players coming. but when resistance came i lost fun in gms.. v62 is still my favorite. PVP was made to bring players in the game again.

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-To me what makes players want to quit the most is actually one reason i quit when i think it was on v55. My level 70 something hermit was hacked i also had nx on there. what a waste of money... and Nexon cant help me at all to get it back nor can i get my money back. Hackers make players rage quit pretty much. I dont see a point in them sueing us private servers... if players are coming to us maybe you should learn something from us rather than wanting all our assets and money. we are 10-16 year old kids with a bigger imagination and a better mind on what kids today like in games. we can also make a private server and websites for it and thats sad for a company as big as nexon. i think nexon ruined the game themselves. so if nexon is sueing us cause players come to us rather than nexon. maybe nexon made a version that ruined the game and players can go back all the way to v62 even further back before nexon ruined the game for some. for some theres wayyyy wayyyy to many level 200s and when you reach a high level get ready to be hacked cause your account is a higher priority to hackers. sue us no if i were nexon i would hire the maplestory private server development team of ragezone cause were damn f***ing AMAZING
 
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Well we all know most of us are like 14,13 or even 12 and 11 years old lol ,
Funny if you will think of those ages going to court because of their stupidity ... Face the fact , security of their server is shenanigans that's why the file got leaked .. why blaming us ? and specially why Dan ? Well shoulda really file case for all the lies he had said .. More power to Dan .. Go RaGeZone :wink:

Speak for your self.
 
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Well we all know most of us are like 14,13 or even 12 and 11 years old lol

thats shenanigans, most of us are around 14-20 and sometimes maybe 20+

Funny if you will think of those ages going to court because of their stupidity

going to court because Nexon is stupid? Nexon is a company trying to protect its assets. Plus its pretty obvious there is some legal problems with hosting a server.

Face the fact , security of their server is shenanigans that's why the file got leaked .. why blaming us ? and specially why Dan ? Well shoulda really file case for all the lies he had said .. More power to Dan .. Go RaGeZone :wink:

I disagree, nexon's servers was completely secure. It was only BrazilMS that had an unsecured FTP. Why blame us? Because some guy (KillerStefan) leaked the official maplestory server files on ragezone. Why Dan? Because he owns Ragezone. Everything Mr. Korn said wasn't complete lies.
 
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-To me what makes players want to quit the most is actually one reason i quit when i think it was on v55. My level 70 something hermit was hacked i also had nx on there. what a waste of money... and Nexon cant help me at all to get it back nor can i get my money back. Hackers make players rage quit pretty much. I dont see a point in them sueing us private servers... if players are coming to us maybe you should learn something from us rather than wanting all our assets and money. we are 10-16 year old kids with a bigger imagination and a better mind on what kids today like in games. we can also make a private server and websites for it and thats sad for a company as big as nexon. i think nexon ruined the game themselves. so if nexon is sueing us cause players come to us rather than nexon. maybe nexon made a version that ruined the game and players can go back all the way to v62 even further back before nexon ruined the game for some. for some theres wayyyy wayyyy to many level 200s and when you reach a high level get ready to be hacked cause your account is a higher priority to hackers. sue us no if i were nexon i would hire the maplestory private server development team of ragezone cause were damn f***ing AMAZING

They're not hackers. I mean you just got scammed, phished, password guessed. Even if you never gave your info out, had good passwords, people still could have guessed. You never know. It's possible that people get hacked, but I'm wondering what people are doing with hashed server data and stuff with username/password (this seems unlikely, but this has happened in other games and database breaches). Being "remote" hacked is silly too.

Also of course nexon can't help you get accounts back. They probably get tons of these reports every day. Even doing this on a private server takes a while. I don't deal with it half the time and have other people deal with it. The only ones I do are the ones that are very serious.

Maybe you're 10-16, but not everyone is (average is probably no lower than 16). Thing is, even when I was 16, I saw Nexon's motive for this. It's obvious why they want to shut private servers down. Making them lose money, this I don't know as this can be compared to the music industry, but if you made a game and spent so much time and effort on it, you would not want people stealing it. If you disagree with that, you clearly haven't put enough time into making a game.


All the current developers somewhat play GMS. I don't seriously play it, but all developers need to get packets somehow, and the guessing method is horrible for guessing everything. Even if I could have guessed pvp and everything that would have taken forever. Who cares if they ruined the game? More people want higher version servers than not. This has been proven again and again. Look at it this way. If you want a successful server with tons of players, you want to upgrade the version. If you want to advance the source code, then obviously you want to upgrade the version. If you just want to have fun with a few friends on lower versions, then you'll have to know how to code the higher versions because v55 and below are missing things and you'd need to get packets somehow. Then you need to have the skill to convert back to v55 through intuition and guessing.

I were Nexon, I certainly would not be hiring the current developers in this section, including myself. Possible exception would be Cornbread and Simon.
 
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Last post here ^^ : why are you guys so supportive to nexon lol , well if you think PS is illegal and Ragezone is bad then leave ... I understand they can harrass Rz/Mental Outside Ragezone.com but here? Hell nah brother this is our home lol mess with one means mess to all .. so yeah hate me or whatever you'll feel but stop protecting your boyfriend lloyd korn !
 
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Last post here ^^ : why are you guys so supportive to nexon lol , well if you think PS is illegal and Ragezone is bad then leave ... I understand they can harrass Rz/Mental Outside Ragezone.com but here? Hell nah brother this is our home lol mess with one means mess to all .. so yeah hate me or whatever you'll feel but stop protecting your boyfriend lloyd korn !

I'm guessing you don't come into this section much but there is a difference from being unbiased and being extremely stupid. First of all, the way we run these private servers is very illegal as we reverse engineer the client, run the server with their own files (wz editing especially), rip their images for the website to generate rankings and graphics (some people), and other stuff. What isn't illegal is the server side of what's done here, which is self-written code. This being said, you should learn about what's going on in this section before posting anything ignorant. Also most people just make these servers to make a quick buck and not really for the development of the emulator.

Also I don't think RaGEZONE is bad at all. This isn't my main account, but I've had many releases here, and I've contributed as much as anyone else in this section. Most of the v75 plus stuff is based on what I've released, and I'd go as far as to say v62 stuff as well (but people use XiuzSu's release as well). No, of course I support RaGEZONE. I've done all my major releasing here (again not on this account) and not on the other "rival" forums.

Also about ages here, it seems like you're the one that's 11-14. Most people posting in this thread are certainly not 11-14.
 
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SuperLOL:
Also about ages here, it seems like you're the one that's 11-14. Most people posting in this thread are certainly not 11-14.

- Roger that.
You are Moogra right?

NitrousX:
Why do you think that everyone works for Nexon? :S

We are just stating how to real life is working and everything isn't just F2 smilies in MapleStory.
 
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Last post here ^^ : why are you guys so supportive to nexon lol , well if you think PS is illegal and Ragezone is bad then leave ... I understand they can harrass Rz/Mental Outside Ragezone.com but here? Hell nah brother this is our home lol mess with one means mess to all .. so yeah hate me or whatever you'll feel but stop protecting your boyfriend lloyd korn !

Thank god this is your last post. You're honestly an idiot, and it's pretty obvious your IQ is either below normal or you're under 13 years old. Smfh, "your boyfriend lloyd korn"?

Speak for your self.

You should be speaking for yourself. You spend your donations on porn and microsoft points for xbox live. If you really knew what you were doing and really cared about your server, then maybe you wouldn't be getting screwed over by the people you worked/work with.

Well we all know most of us are like 14,13 or even 12 and 11 years old lol ,
Funny if you will think of those ages going to court because of their stupidity ... Face the fact , security of their server is shenanigans that's why the file got leaked .. why blaming us ? and specially why Dan ? Well shoulda really file case for all the lies he had said .. More power to Dan .. Go RaGeZone :wink:

Just saying, you can go to court at any age. The only thing that'll be affected is Nexons reputation. They're specifically after Dan because he is the owner of the forums. As owner, you have to take the blame or responsibility to whatever happens.
 
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Strobe:
Thank god you posted here. You made my day.. Couldn't agree more!

Well, statement no. 2, I don't know that guy, but 1 + 3 seriously good stuff there.

Thumbs up!

By the way:

What are the chances that Dan will win in the court? I have no idea how the british law system works, but I am pretty sure Nexon will win.. Right? Perhaps Dan has material that can be used against them, I do not know.. But what are the odds that we can keep this awesome section?

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With all due respect, Nexon is correct in anyway. Yes, their files did get leaked but they're the ones who created the game, regardless of their so called "crappy security". We all have to face it, that people STOLE what they made it's still little 2D creatures and stuff that they worked their butts off to create. Regardless of how greedy they are for money, every company is, thats why it's called a company to EARN money.

People stole their game and their files, we didn't make anything.

I like Ragezone as a forum overall but we've gotta come to face things, and Nexon will win if they end up sueing everyone they have the money and the lawyers.

Don't rage at me saying I'm butt licking Nexon, but the truth is the truth.

~ Over and out.
 
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Jerkysalad: Even though you are the 100th to state that, I have the same opinion.

Just one thing.. It was Wizet, well.. Screw that, I get your point.

No one will rage at you for butt licking, cause Nexon is not here to read it. If they were, it was another story. Well watch out for that nitrous guy! He might think you are staff of Nexon :) Haha!

Mental:
If you aren't going to the court, what then?

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Thanks for understanding Metal! I'm glad we both see it from the same perspective! :)

And haha, yeah.

---------- Post added at 08:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 PM ----------

Thanks for understanding Metal! I'm glad we both see it from the same perspective! :)

And haha, yeah.
 
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With all due respect, Nexon is correct in anyway. Yes, their files did get leaked but they're the ones who created the game, regardless of their so called "crappy security". We all have to face it, that people STOLE what they made it's still little 2D creatures and stuff that they worked their butts off to create. Regardless of how greedy they are for money, every company is, thats why it's called a company to EARN money.

People stole their game and their files, we didn't make anything.

I like Ragezone as a forum overall but we've gotta come to face things, and Nexon will win if they end up sueing everyone they have the money and the lawyers.

Don't rage at me saying I'm butt licking Nexon, but the truth is the truth.

~ Over and out.

Yet again... yes, it was stolen, but in no way did RaGEZONE or the staff play a part in that. In fact, the file was removed as soon as it was realized that it was stolen, and not when Nexon found out about it.
 
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Yet again... yes, it was stolen, but in no way did RaGEZONE or the staff play a part in that. In fact, the file was removed as soon as it was realized that it was stolen, and not when Nexon found out about it.

Yeah, but RaGEZONE did play a part in it. Mental created the section of Maplestory and we knew from that day what was in hand for us, leaked files, Hacks, Private servers, etc...

I understand that RaGEZONE staff didn't leak the file, but the user is what has us on the line now.
 
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Yeah, but RaGEZONE did play a part in it. Mental created the section of Maplestory and we knew from that day what was in hand for us, leaked files, Hacks, Private servers, etc...

I understand that RaGEZONE staff didn't leak the file, but the user is what has us on the line now.

So with that logic, if someone goes into a building and shoots everyone in the head, the people who created the gun model are at fault? Really? This section was NOT created for hacks or leaked stolen files. It was created for development of open source code, which is perfectly legal. Yes, that open source code can be used with copyrighted files, but until it touches and/or uses those files, they remain legal, which is exactly what this section is all about.
 
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Yeah, but RaGEZONE did play a part in it. Mental created the section of Maplestory and we knew from that day what was in hand for us, leaked files, Hacks, Private servers, etc...

I understand that RaGEZONE staff didn't leak the file, but the user is what has us on the line now.

I does surprise me how you have a MapleStory avatar, which makes me thinks that you, as a user, visit the MapleStory section more often than any other section and yet fail to even get any point correctly.

1. There is not leaked files in the MapleStory section, at least, not copyright ones, it's all about others people's works that mostly are meaningless.

2. There are no hacks in here... like... where? Are you sure you posted in the correct forum?

3. Private Servers, there are not private server being posted in here, just server side code or development. That's about it.

If anything, the XML data is an extraction, it's not the very copyrighted .WZ, so it's legal. The only thing that may be illegal are the reversed engineer MapleStory.exe to connect to ours IP's, that's all. However, lately, not even that is put into play, lately most people are using a loopback method, which is not even from NEXON either. So again, it's legal.
 
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I don't even think the files were stolen. They were downloaded, therefore not stolen. If I upload a file and someone grabs it they didn't steal it. They more like got lucky. The grabbing of the binaries was lucky. It wasn't skillful at all and no hacking was done. It was just that Nexon failed to set correct permissions on their FTP. This was in no way RaGEZONE's fault, so the staff here shouldn't be at fault. The only person that Nexon has any reason to sue would be the person posting leaked files (but then it was their fault anyways, also Nexon America has no authority over Brazil so...).

However, I can completely understand why Nexon would want to sue people. We're stealing their game. We're coding a copy of it, and running it for many reasons. The server running is illegal as I have said before yes, but not what goes on here which is just emulation development. Source code is just source code. You can write anything you want and as long as it's done by you I don't see how Nexon can even sue for that. The only thing I'm not sure about is cracking the packet encryption in the source.

Nexon would win some cases in court for sure. They have the powerful and experienced lawyers. However, they aren't stupid enough to sue everyone. There are thousands of people here. A few hundred are viewing this section at the moment. Things such as ThePack had hundreds of thousands of downloads. Nexon has capital to sue some people, but not enough to sue everyone.
 
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I don't even think the files were stolen. They were downloaded, therefore not stolen. If I upload a file and someone grabs it they didn't steal it. They more like got lucky. The grabbing of the binaries was lucky. It wasn't skillful at all and no hacking was done. It was just that Nexon failed to set correct permissions on their FTP. This was in no way RaGEZONE's fault, so the staff here shouldn't be at fault. The only person that Nexon has any reason to sue would be the person posting leaked files (but then it was their fault anyways, also Nexon America has no authority over Brazil so...).

However, I can completely understand why Nexon would want to sue people. We're stealing their game. We're coding a copy of it, and running it for many reasons. The server running is illegal as I have said before yes, but not what goes on here which is just emulation development. Source code is just source code. You can write anything you want and as long as it's done by you I don't see how Nexon can even sue for that. The only thing I'm not sure about is cracking the packet encryption in the source.

Nexon would win some cases in court for sure. They have the powerful and experienced lawyers. However, they aren't stupid enough to sue everyone. There are thousands of people here. A few hundred are viewing this section at the moment. Things such as ThePack had hundreds of thousands of downloads. Nexon has capital to sue some people, but not enough to sue everyone.

Cracking the packet encryption is also not illegal in my point of view, as it's just code, not even made by NEXON either, it was just a way-around. However, that piece of code is meaningless without he very MapleStory.exe from them, so, it's not illegal until you put both in play I presume.
 
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