至死不渝
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After having used ragezone for about 2 years or so and browsed the help section for Java Based (Odin) for almost the same amount of time, I realised that the amount of help provided is diminishing. Thus, I shall take some time off and discuss the reasons behind why it has turned out this way as well as hopefully to improve the situation.
When I first joined ragezone 2 years back, I was a complete noob, someone who was literally unable to even set up a server despite the countless guides out there. Like most other people that seek help, I took to the help section literally all of my problems and of course I got all of them resolved thanks to the community that spoon fed me with every single solution ranging for simple javascript errors to adding features onto the server. As such, all I did was leech and had no opportunity to try out anything on my own, thus learning nothing for a good amount of 3-4 months.
About a year later, v83 servers, sources, repacks were literally everywhere. There is a detailed library full of NPC scripts, fixes as well as features compiled together by iAkira. Seeing how all the resources for creating a server was available, I came back hoping to leech some of them and start my own v83 server. As expected, I met some problems on the way and once again sought help from the help section. However, the difference between help provided during this time and previously was that now, people weren't as specific. They merely told you which file it was under along with which specific strings to search for. Personally, I gained a lot of experience from this, because I not only got something which I can work on by myself, I also learnt HOW and WHERE to work on.
Finally, this year, seeing that my holidays are arriving, I once again decided to venture back into MapleStory development just to enjoy the new features v111+ has brought. Going into the help section of the forums once again just because I barely know the basics, I realised that majority of the people here are getting way less helpful, or merely helping you with the bare minimum. Most of the solutions, and by that I mean around 95% of them, to the very best only tells you which java file to look under and it can get as worse as to tell you to leech from another source or google it. I don't like spoon-feeding neither do I like to be spoon-fed, but simply telling you which Java file to look under is simply not enough. It is like people are new to fishing and people on the help section are only telling him where to get the fish when he doesn't even know how to position the rod or prepare the bait. ( Note this is different from the first scenario I brought up since that will be classified under giving him the fish. )
In conclusion, I just want to say that the help section is not helpful enough. Simply telling us which java file to look under is far from enough because many of us who seeks help on the help section do not know what specific text to look out for to be changed (you don't have to tell us what to change it into), nor is telling us to leech from another source helpful since we have no idea which source has the feature working either. Thus, I hope the community will be more helpful to beginners who are new to java and actually provide the file name along with the strings to search for to locate for a certain feature, method, function or whatever you call that.
TL;DR, noobs need more detailed help
When I first joined ragezone 2 years back, I was a complete noob, someone who was literally unable to even set up a server despite the countless guides out there. Like most other people that seek help, I took to the help section literally all of my problems and of course I got all of them resolved thanks to the community that spoon fed me with every single solution ranging for simple javascript errors to adding features onto the server. As such, all I did was leech and had no opportunity to try out anything on my own, thus learning nothing for a good amount of 3-4 months.
About a year later, v83 servers, sources, repacks were literally everywhere. There is a detailed library full of NPC scripts, fixes as well as features compiled together by iAkira. Seeing how all the resources for creating a server was available, I came back hoping to leech some of them and start my own v83 server. As expected, I met some problems on the way and once again sought help from the help section. However, the difference between help provided during this time and previously was that now, people weren't as specific. They merely told you which file it was under along with which specific strings to search for. Personally, I gained a lot of experience from this, because I not only got something which I can work on by myself, I also learnt HOW and WHERE to work on.
Finally, this year, seeing that my holidays are arriving, I once again decided to venture back into MapleStory development just to enjoy the new features v111+ has brought. Going into the help section of the forums once again just because I barely know the basics, I realised that majority of the people here are getting way less helpful, or merely helping you with the bare minimum. Most of the solutions, and by that I mean around 95% of them, to the very best only tells you which java file to look under and it can get as worse as to tell you to leech from another source or google it. I don't like spoon-feeding neither do I like to be spoon-fed, but simply telling you which Java file to look under is simply not enough. It is like people are new to fishing and people on the help section are only telling him where to get the fish when he doesn't even know how to position the rod or prepare the bait. ( Note this is different from the first scenario I brought up since that will be classified under giving him the fish. )
In conclusion, I just want to say that the help section is not helpful enough. Simply telling us which java file to look under is far from enough because many of us who seeks help on the help section do not know what specific text to look out for to be changed (you don't have to tell us what to change it into), nor is telling us to leech from another source helpful since we have no idea which source has the feature working either. Thus, I hope the community will be more helpful to beginners who are new to java and actually provide the file name along with the strings to search for to locate for a certain feature, method, function or whatever you call that.
TL;DR, noobs need more detailed help
