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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)
    you need to move libtasks.so and libskill.so to the correct location

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by Psytrac View Post
    1: I know how to fix GM rights, debug should work you have to actually write "active" or it does not work
    2: pwadmin does not work with these files AT ALL, because it's structured completely differently, just like 1.4.4 when that came out. Think of W2 1.3.8 as if it's 1.5.1 THAT is how different it is from what we've been working with (I've been dabbling on official with what little free time it allows you on)

    With GM you're missing some really dumb obvious things, and I'll also point you to the world2.log file as well as whatever start logs you have set up
    how to fix GM rights? what dumb obvious things we are missing?

    btw debug_command_mode = active is not working.

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Can anyone please share a Virtual Machine where 1.3.8 is installed with all dependences?

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetratri View Post
    Can anyone please share a Virtual Machine where 1.3.8 is installed with all dependences?
    there is only one file that's not easy to get, the rest are installed but just simply installing libs

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    Quote Originally Posted by cintapw View Post
    how to fix GM rights? what dumb obvious things we are missing?

    btw debug_command_mode = active is not working.
    are you sure it doesn't work?
    Spoiler:

    [GENERAL]
    debug_command_mode=1
    logic_level_limit = 120
    no_output = 0
    allow_login_class_mask = 1023
    #ÈËÀàսʿ

    [SWORDSMAN]
    hp = 60
    mp = 20
    vitality = 20
    energy = 5
    strength = 15
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 30
    attack_range = 1.4
    hp_gen = 3
    mp_gen = 1
    walk_speed = 1.5
    run_speed = 3.0
    swim_speed = 2.2
    fly_speed = 3.0
    crit_rate = 6
    vit_hp = 4
    eng_mp = 2
    lvlup_hp = 5
    lvlup_mp = 3
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #ÈËÀ෨ʦ

    [MAGE]
    hp = 30
    mp = 50
    vitality = 10
    energy = 20
    strength = 10
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 40
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 1
    mp_gen = 3
    walk_speed = 1.3
    run_speed = 2.7
    swim_speed = 2
    fly_speed = 2.7
    crit_rate = 4
    vit_hp = 2
    eng_mp = 4
    lvlup_hp = 3
    lvlup_mp = 5
    lvlup_dmg = 0.5
    lvlup_magic = 1
    lvlup_defense = 0.5
    #ÈËÀàÉ®ÂÂ

    [MONK]
    hp = 40
    mp = 40
    vitality = 15
    energy = 15
    strength = 10
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 32
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 2
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 1.4
    run_speed = 2.9
    swim_speed = 2.1
    fly_speed = 2.9
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 3
    eng_mp = 3
    lvlup_hp = 4
    lvlup_mp = 4
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #Ñý¾«

    [HAG]
    hp = 50
    mp = 30
    vitality = 15
    energy = 15
    strength = 15
    agility = 5
    attack_speed = 34
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 2
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 1.5
    run_speed = 3.1
    swim_speed = 2.3
    fly_speed = 3.1
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 3
    eng_mp = 3
    lvlup_hp = 4
    lvlup_mp = 4
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #ÑýÊÞ

    [ORGE]
    hp = 65
    mp = 15
    vitality = 25
    energy = 5
    strength = 15
    agility = 5
    attack_speed = 30
    attack_range = 1.5
    hp_gen = 6
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 1.4
    run_speed = 2.8
    swim_speed = 2
    fly_speed = 2.8
    crit_rate = 7
    vit_hp = 4
    eng_mp = 2
    lvlup_hp = 5
    lvlup_mp = 3
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #÷ÈÁé

    [GENIE]
    hp = 25
    mp = 55
    vitality = 8
    energy = 22
    strength = 5
    agility = 15
    attack_speed = 40
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 1
    mp_gen = 3
    walk_speed = 1.6
    run_speed = 3.3
    swim_speed = 2.4
    fly_speed = 3.3
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 2
    eng_mp = 4
    lvlup_hp = 2
    lvlup_mp = 6
    lvlup_dmg = 0.5
    lvlup_magic = 1
    lvlup_defense = 0.5
    #Óðâ

    [ARCHER]
    hp = 30
    mp = 50
    vitality = 15
    energy = 20
    strength = 5
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 34
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 2
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 1.4
    run_speed = 2.8
    swim_speed = 2.0
    fly_speed = 2.8
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 3
    eng_mp = 3
    lvlup_hp = 4
    lvlup_mp = 4
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #ÓðÁé

    [ANGEL]
    hp = 30
    mp = 50
    vitality = 10
    energy = 20
    strength = 10
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 40
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 1
    mp_gen = 3
    walk_speed = 1.4
    run_speed = 2.8
    swim_speed = 2.0
    fly_speed = 2.8
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 2
    eng_mp = 4
    lvlup_hp = 3
    lvlup_mp = 5
    lvlup_dmg = 0.5
    lvlup_magic = 1
    lvlup_defense = 0.5

    [MESMD_ADJUST]
    # MOB_EXPERIENCE_SKILLPOINT_MONEY_DROP
    base_offset = -100 0.05 0 0 0
    offset1 = -11 0.05 0 0 0
    offset2 = -8 0.2 0.05 0.2 0.2
    offset3 = -5 0.5 0.2 0.5 0.5
    offset4 = -3 0.8 0.6 0.8 0.8
    offset5 = 3 1 1 1 1
    offset6 = 7 1 1 1 1
    ;max_offset 100

    [TEAM_ADJUST]
    teamexp0 = 1.0
    teamsp0 = 1.0
    teamexp1 = 1.0
    teamsp1 = 1.0
    teamexp2 = 1.2
    teamsp2 = 1.2
    teamexp3 = 1.3
    teamsp3 = 1.3
    teamexp4 = 1.4
    teamsp4 = 1.4
    teamexp5 = 1.5
    teamsp5 = 1.5
    teamexp6 = 1.6
    teamsp6 = 1.6
    teamexp7 = 1.7
    teamsp7 = 1.7
    teamexp8 = 1.8
    teamsp8 = 1.8
    teamexp9 = 1.9
    teamsp9 = 1.9
    teamexp10 = 2.0
    teamsp10 = 2.0

    [TOWN_REGION]
    region0 = (0,100,0) (-100,-100,100,100)
    region1 = (0,100,0) (-100,300,400,600)
    region2 = (320,200,3200) (0,2900,600,3500)
    region3 = (226,270,3197) (-10000,-100000,100000,100000)

    [BLADE]
    hp = 30
    mp = 21
    vitality = 3
    energy = 3
    strength = 5
    agility = 5
    attack_speed = 50
    attack_range = 2.5
    hp_gen = 3
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 2
    run_speed = 5
    swim_speed = 3
    fly_speed = 5
    crit_rate = 1
    vit_hp = 11
    eng_mp = 6
    lvlup_hp = 22
    lvlup_mp = 12
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 0

    [MYSTIC]
    hp = 21
    mp = 30
    vitality = 3
    energy = 3
    strength = 5
    agility = 5
    attack_speed = 40
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 1
    mp_gen = 4
    walk_speed = 2
    run_speed = 4.8
    swim_speed = 3
    fly_speed = 5
    crit_rate = 1
    vit_hp = 7
    eng_mp = 10
    lvlup_hp = 14
    lvlup_mp = 20
    lvlup_dmg = 0.5
    lvlup_magic = 1
    lvlup_defense = 0




    Client 1082:
    https://mega.nz/file/qhZAUTSI#h3XPEW...coZoFIbNTb96SM

    This client is much newer, it's STILL not the one you need, but the patches are much easier to get ahold of (As OF RIGHT NOW) all patches are still on the wanmei patch server
    Last edited by Psytrac; 26-01-21 at 01:37 AM. Reason: spoiler > quote

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by Psytrac View Post
    there is only one file that's not easy to get, the rest are installed but just simply installing libs

    - - - Updated - - -


    are you sure it doesn't work?
    Spoiler:

    [GENERAL]
    debug_command_mode=1
    logic_level_limit = 120
    no_output = 0
    allow_login_class_mask = 1023
    #ÈËÀàսʿ

    [SWORDSMAN]
    hp = 60
    mp = 20
    vitality = 20
    energy = 5
    strength = 15
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 30
    attack_range = 1.4
    hp_gen = 3
    mp_gen = 1
    walk_speed = 1.5
    run_speed = 3.0
    swim_speed = 2.2
    fly_speed = 3.0
    crit_rate = 6
    vit_hp = 4
    eng_mp = 2
    lvlup_hp = 5
    lvlup_mp = 3
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #ÈËÀ෨ʦ

    [MAGE]
    hp = 30
    mp = 50
    vitality = 10
    energy = 20
    strength = 10
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 40
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 1
    mp_gen = 3
    walk_speed = 1.3
    run_speed = 2.7
    swim_speed = 2
    fly_speed = 2.7
    crit_rate = 4
    vit_hp = 2
    eng_mp = 4
    lvlup_hp = 3
    lvlup_mp = 5
    lvlup_dmg = 0.5
    lvlup_magic = 1
    lvlup_defense = 0.5
    #ÈËÀàÉ®ÂÂ

    [MONK]
    hp = 40
    mp = 40
    vitality = 15
    energy = 15
    strength = 10
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 32
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 2
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 1.4
    run_speed = 2.9
    swim_speed = 2.1
    fly_speed = 2.9
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 3
    eng_mp = 3
    lvlup_hp = 4
    lvlup_mp = 4
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #Ñý¾«

    [HAG]
    hp = 50
    mp = 30
    vitality = 15
    energy = 15
    strength = 15
    agility = 5
    attack_speed = 34
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 2
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 1.5
    run_speed = 3.1
    swim_speed = 2.3
    fly_speed = 3.1
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 3
    eng_mp = 3
    lvlup_hp = 4
    lvlup_mp = 4
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #ÑýÊÞ

    [ORGE]
    hp = 65
    mp = 15
    vitality = 25
    energy = 5
    strength = 15
    agility = 5
    attack_speed = 30
    attack_range = 1.5
    hp_gen = 6
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 1.4
    run_speed = 2.8
    swim_speed = 2
    fly_speed = 2.8
    crit_rate = 7
    vit_hp = 4
    eng_mp = 2
    lvlup_hp = 5
    lvlup_mp = 3
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #÷ÈÁé

    [GENIE]
    hp = 25
    mp = 55
    vitality = 8
    energy = 22
    strength = 5
    agility = 15
    attack_speed = 40
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 1
    mp_gen = 3
    walk_speed = 1.6
    run_speed = 3.3
    swim_speed = 2.4
    fly_speed = 3.3
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 2
    eng_mp = 4
    lvlup_hp = 2
    lvlup_mp = 6
    lvlup_dmg = 0.5
    lvlup_magic = 1
    lvlup_defense = 0.5
    #Óðâ

    [ARCHER]
    hp = 30
    mp = 50
    vitality = 15
    energy = 20
    strength = 5
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 34
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 2
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 1.4
    run_speed = 2.8
    swim_speed = 2.0
    fly_speed = 2.8
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 3
    eng_mp = 3
    lvlup_hp = 4
    lvlup_mp = 4
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 1
    #ÓðÁé

    [ANGEL]
    hp = 30
    mp = 50
    vitality = 10
    energy = 20
    strength = 10
    agility = 10
    attack_speed = 40
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 1
    mp_gen = 3
    walk_speed = 1.4
    run_speed = 2.8
    swim_speed = 2.0
    fly_speed = 2.8
    crit_rate = 5
    vit_hp = 2
    eng_mp = 4
    lvlup_hp = 3
    lvlup_mp = 5
    lvlup_dmg = 0.5
    lvlup_magic = 1
    lvlup_defense = 0.5

    [MESMD_ADJUST]
    # MOB_EXPERIENCE_SKILLPOINT_MONEY_DROP
    base_offset = -100 0.05 0 0 0
    offset1 = -11 0.05 0 0 0
    offset2 = -8 0.2 0.05 0.2 0.2
    offset3 = -5 0.5 0.2 0.5 0.5
    offset4 = -3 0.8 0.6 0.8 0.8
    offset5 = 3 1 1 1 1
    offset6 = 7 1 1 1 1
    ;max_offset 100

    [TEAM_ADJUST]
    teamexp0 = 1.0
    teamsp0 = 1.0
    teamexp1 = 1.0
    teamsp1 = 1.0
    teamexp2 = 1.2
    teamsp2 = 1.2
    teamexp3 = 1.3
    teamsp3 = 1.3
    teamexp4 = 1.4
    teamsp4 = 1.4
    teamexp5 = 1.5
    teamsp5 = 1.5
    teamexp6 = 1.6
    teamsp6 = 1.6
    teamexp7 = 1.7
    teamsp7 = 1.7
    teamexp8 = 1.8
    teamsp8 = 1.8
    teamexp9 = 1.9
    teamsp9 = 1.9
    teamexp10 = 2.0
    teamsp10 = 2.0

    [TOWN_REGION]
    region0 = (0,100,0) (-100,-100,100,100)
    region1 = (0,100,0) (-100,300,400,600)
    region2 = (320,200,3200) (0,2900,600,3500)
    region3 = (226,270,3197) (-10000,-100000,100000,100000)

    [BLADE]
    hp = 30
    mp = 21
    vitality = 3
    energy = 3
    strength = 5
    agility = 5
    attack_speed = 50
    attack_range = 2.5
    hp_gen = 3
    mp_gen = 2
    walk_speed = 2
    run_speed = 5
    swim_speed = 3
    fly_speed = 5
    crit_rate = 1
    vit_hp = 11
    eng_mp = 6
    lvlup_hp = 22
    lvlup_mp = 12
    lvlup_dmg = 1
    lvlup_magic = 0
    lvlup_defense = 0

    [MYSTIC]
    hp = 21
    mp = 30
    vitality = 3
    energy = 3
    strength = 5
    agility = 5
    attack_speed = 40
    attack_range = 1.2
    hp_gen = 1
    mp_gen = 4
    walk_speed = 2
    run_speed = 4.8
    swim_speed = 3
    fly_speed = 5
    crit_rate = 1
    vit_hp = 7
    eng_mp = 10
    lvlup_hp = 14
    lvlup_mp = 20
    lvlup_dmg = 0.5
    lvlup_magic = 1
    lvlup_defense = 0




    Client 1082:
    https://mega.nz/file/qhZAUTSI#h3XPEW...coZoFIbNTb96SM

    This client is much newer, it's STILL not the one you need, but the patches are much easier to get ahold of (As OF RIGHT NOW) all patches are still on the wanmei patch server
    the debug mode is working now after i change active to 1, thank you!

    this client is better version? does it fix GM right? because i set my account to be GM, but randomly got GM, need to relogin many times to just get GM right.

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by cintapw View Post
    this client is better version? does it fix GM right?
    GM problems are due to server, not client there are options that PWI doesn't use that World 2 does, check the PWI sources (not source code, binary) and you will find what the problem is with the server

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by Psytrac View Post
    GM problems are due to server, not client there are options that PWI doesn't use that World 2 does, check the PWI sources (not source code, binary) and you will find what the problem is with the server
    where to look? what source? are you mean all the conf files on server side? like gmserver.conf etc?

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by cintapw View Post
    where to look? what source? are you mean all the conf files on server side? like gmserver.conf etc?
    exactly, all server setup issues are solved in the conf files oin server

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by Psytrac View Post
    exactly, all server setup issues are solved in the conf files oin server
    do you have any other server setup issue? i only find that GM right randomly working and each account have play time, it will force log out if the playtime is 0.

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by cintapw View Post
    do you have any other server setup issue? i only find that GM right randomly working and each account have play time, it will force log out if the playtime is 0.
    I fixed my table and sql database to null these things, manually added free time and I've had 0 issues being on all day, with GM perfectly intact







    and don't ask me about my UI, it's my own work, and far from done
    Last edited by Psytrac; 27-01-21 at 03:52 AM.

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by cintapw View Post
    this is not helping at all
    I fixed my table and sql database to null these things, manually added free time
    GM problems are due to server, not client there are options that PWI doesn't use that World 2 does
    This, ladies and gentlemen, is why the experienced devs do not help new people out.

    We WILL NOT fix your server for you. We lead and you figure things out. If you can't, give up. No one wants to hand anyone something on a silver platter.

    Experienced devs help experienced devs, I worked with others to get this working, others with FAR more knowledge than I. I happen to be real good at tinkering till something works and remembering useless facts about things.

    Perfect World International was built on top of World 2. The game is 95% the same, and the server structures are as well. PWI 1.3.1 and W2 v6 were nearly identical it's branched a fair bit since then. If you look around in the server code, you will find all sorts of nulled options on PWI, and W2 uses EVERY SINGLE ONE
    Last edited by Psytrac; 27-01-21 at 09:37 AM.

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by Psytrac View Post
    This, ladies and gentlemen, is why the experienced devs do not help new people out.

    We WILL NOT fix your server for you. We lead and you figure things out. If you can't, give up. No one wants to hand anyone something on a silver platter.
    you are not helping people, dont pretend that you are helping if the fact is you dont.

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by cintapw View Post
    you are not helping people, dont pretend that you are helping if the fact is you dont.
    I have given you literally everything you need. I have given you more than I had when I PERSONALLY set these files up.

    anti-wallow, anti-cheat, no_output. Tthe login logs from authd..

    anti-wallow and anti-cheat are from PWI
    no_output comes from Jade Dynasty

    Are you starting to figure out a pattern yet?

    authd tells you it's looking for values and EXACTLY what those values are. gdelivery asks authd for that information, and if it's wrong, you won't log in correctly.

    there's the water, right there in front of you, gonna take a drink of die of thirst?

    and since I know he's watching.. @beyastard You think I've given enough info to correctly set up these files?

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by Psytrac View Post
    I have given you literally everything you need. I have given you more than I had when I PERSONALLY set these files up.

    anti-wallow, anti-cheat, no_output. Tthe login logs from authd..

    anti-wallow and anti-cheat are from PWI
    no_output comes from Jade Dynasty

    Are you starting to figure out a pattern yet?

    authd tells you it's looking for values and EXACTLY what those values are. gdelivery asks authd for that information, and if it's wrong, you won't log in correctly.

    there's the water, right there in front of you, gonna take a drink of die of thirst?

    and since I know he's watching.. @beyastard You think I've given enough info to correctly set up these files?
    Actually, yes, quite enough.

    And, what you cannot find in this specific thread, you'll find in other threads. It isn't difficult to use the Search feature at this forum. If you have others do everything for you, you'll never learn anything. Running a server is more than just "Click and it works magically!" And, if you know next to nothing about Linux, you won't get anywhere. The first step would be to learn Linux proficiently before even delving into setting up and configuring a PW server. Knowledge of programming also helps a lot, especially when modifying the base server.

    Demanding others to help you and disrespecting people is the wrong way to approach anything. Actually, that is the perfect way to get people to not want to help. And again, there is way more than enough knowledge all throughout this section that will "hold your hand" and walk through every part necessary to get a server and client running smoothly. There are those who have spent many years working out all the various problems and the solutions can be found here. No one is going to do all the searches through the threads and find the info for you, you have to do it yourself. Do what others have done, spend the time to learn how the server works. Hands-on experience is the most valuable knowledge you can gain.
    You can fix anything with a hammer...
    If it isn't broken, fix it until it is...

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    Re: Perfect World 1.3.8 (World 2, v78)

    Quote Originally Posted by beyastard View Post
    Actually, yes, quite enough.

    And, what you cannot find in this specific thread, you'll find in other threads. It isn't difficult to use the Search feature at this forum. If you have others do everything for you, you'll never learn anything. Running a server is more than just "Click and it works magically!" And, if you know next to nothing about Linux, you won't get anywhere. The first step would be to learn Linux proficiently before even delving into setting up and configuring a PW server. Knowledge of programming also helps a lot, especially when modifying the base server.

    Demanding others to help you and disrespecting people is the wrong way to approach anything. Actually, that is the perfect way to get people to not want to help. And again, there is way more than enough knowledge all throughout this section that will "hold your hand" and walk through every part necessary to get a server and client running smoothly. There are those who have spent many years working out all the various problems and the solutions can be found here. No one is going to do all the searches through the threads and find the info for you, you have to do it yourself. Do what others have done, spend the time to learn how the server works. Hands-on experience is the most valuable knowledge you can gain.
    bla...bla..bla people like you that make this community dead, then what is section tutorials for? if no one willing to share his knowledge.



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