[chea77er]

@FrostElite
wow thanks rly nice

Do you need some C# Developer?

[joostp]

So there might be a specialised forum for development?
How about adding a rule there that you cant talk about Caali's files there? (unless you got his full source lol)
Then as far as the language choice goes, I highly recommend the use of either Java (yes, java!) or c++.
Both can easily function on multiple o/s.
In the case of c++, you only have to compile the source on a linux machine in order to make sure that it works for linux.
In the case of java, java will function in the exact same way on windows as it does on linux, unix, osx or whatever o/s you can think of.
Thats the power of java! (and one of the things that limits java)
C# is waaay too limited in its use, not to mention that its (almost fully) windows-only.

How about we start a poll?

[Sythrus]

woot lol don't compare java and c++ they are so different in many ways lol...
And no, if you want to make a multiplatform software, you won't have only to compile on the desired OS, one example : winsock...ahah
Don't talk about things you have no clues on.

[joostp]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sythrus

woot lol don't compare java and c++ they are so different in many ways lol...
And no, if you want to make a multiplatform software, you won't have only to compile on the desired OS, one example : winsock...ahah
Don't talk about things you have no clues on.

That depends on the libraries/apis youre using ;)
The fact that you only know about winsock to open datastreams tells enough about your so-called skills.

I dont compare the languages I mentioned above, I just look at which language would best fit the needs.

[zxc369]

I'm sick of being a leecher. I've always wanted to learn to program and downloaded so many pdf files on C# and C++. I never found any of the books to be of any help as many books either aim towards those that already have a basic clue of what they are doing or some that are just not pragmatic enough and drifts off into the history of BASIC, FORTRAN etc. If someone is making an Open-Source project out of this. I'm hoping that someone atleast explains in-depth how all those tags work and which files are working with which in the comments within the source. At the moment... I don't even know how bool works. Can you guys recommend a worthwhile project that I can get myself started on? Besides the "Hello World" on cmd thing shown in just about every book.

[ayboangelus]

"Hello ragezone" ok go away :(

[FrostElite]

Quote: Originally Posted by zxc369

I'm sick of being a leecher. I've always wanted to learn to program and downloaded so many pdf files on C# and C++. I never found any of the books to be of any help as many books either aim towards those that already have a basic clue of what they are doing or some that are just not pragmatic enough and drifts off into the history of BASIC, FORTRAN etc. If someone is making an Open-Source project out of this. I'm hoping that someone atleast explains in-depth how all those tags work and which files are working with which in the comments within the source. At the moment... I don't even know how bool works. Can you guys recommend a worthwhile project that I can get myself started on? Besides the "Hello World" on cmd thing shown in just about every book.

what you mean? you wanna learn how to code? but code something eaiseR? you could try Rose or WoW

[bongkerz]

@zxc369 i too was in some what the same situation, i to found some books to be useless as they didnt really aim at someone like myself, i then decided to move on to something a lil easier to learn like vb, i think its prob one of the easiest lang to learn but i also know wat u gonna say now, vb isnt very helpfull in terms of making an emu or game programming, and u prob right, but wat i have found is that most coding langs are similar in some way or another, im not saying im a pro but learning vb kinda help me understand c# and c++ a lil bit better, i am currently learning c++ through tutorials on the net, Frost has provided links for some really good tutorials on both c# and c++. Good luck and hope this helps u in some way

@Frost Thanks alot mate for info, was really helpful and provided me with a better understanding of coding ur own emu.

[Sythrus]

Quote: Originally Posted by joostp

That depends on the libraries/apis youre using ;)
The fact that you only know about winsock to open datastreams tells enough about your so-called skills.

I dont compare the languages I mentioned above, I just look at which language would best fit the needs.

was just an exemple take it easy...lol.
this thread is about making an emu and damm...a good emu is an emu which you have a solid network code, built by yourself...and lowest level it is...better perfomance you'll get...altough there are some pretty good network library availabe on the public domain but doesn't really fit the need of a large scale mmorpg server.

[Blackbox]

Mmm, very nice guide!

Guess I can try to learn C#/C++ again and attempt to make one as well :3

[joostp]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sythrus

was just an exemple take it easy...lol.
this thread is about making an emu and damm...a good emu is an emu which you have a solid network code, built by yourself...and lowest level it is...better perfomance you'll get...altough there are some pretty good network library availabe on the public domain but doesn't really fit the need of a large scale mmorpg server.

Then why do you mention winsock?
You can go to a lower level if you want to.

Either way, I remember an alternative to winsock, which is far better for asynchronous communication.
It also outclasses winsock in general, it is low-level and it fits on multiple o/s.
Ill look it up and write an example.

[Sythrus]

Quote: Originally Posted by joostp

Then why do you mention winsock?
You can go to a lower level if you want to.

Either way, I remember an alternative to winsock, which is far better for asynchronous communication.
It also outclasses winsock in general, it is low-level and it fits on multiple o/s.
Ill look it up and write an example.

I took winsock as an example in my previous posts in this thread responding to a guys saying that lol :

Quote:

In the case of c++, you only have to compile the source on a linux machine in order to make sure that it works for linux.

waiting for your example, I'm curious.

[Bowfinger]

It is possible to build a portable software in any programming language.

Only thing you need is a good software design and a layer that hides the platform depended stuff from your application code.

One thing that will help you is the choice of the right development environment.
I suggest to use eclipse for c++ and Java development.

One additional thing that is almost often not in the focus during first time development is a version controll system.

DO NOT FORGET TO USE VERSION CONTROLL SYSTEM!
I suggest to use subversion.

[kodo123]

Lol, you make it sound as if people can learn a programing language in a few seconds.
Mastering the language takes a few months... But that's just knowing how to right and basics, then there's working with a DB, Math...
It's pretty easy, but people who are reading this now and starting to learn programing will be discouraged when they find out they aren't going to be able to emulate a server within a week.

[slipknotjunkie]

Nice guide man, i'm starting work on my own as of now. Thanks again.

[Nbja]

Great guide. Time to learn c++ xD

[boggerr]

Best guide ever. Im done being a stupid leecher.

[FrostElite]

Quote: Originally Posted by boggerr

Best guide ever. Im done being a stupid leecher.

Woot yay, next leecher turned Newbie coder That's great! Visit www.xat.com/flyffdevs

[boggerr]

Cant go on your xat just yet im on my psp and it wont load the page correctly

[~NaraShikamaru]

NOW THAT, IS ONE HELL OF A TOPIC o.o; So many words, on top of my multi-tasking already...
;Got Dizzy; @.@ Still a good guide never the less, it's good some devs can post decently.