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    I would like to know if I am allowed to create a thread warning users of the designer xDrac.
    This designer has been creating copies of my own designs and selling them.

    One clear example can be found here

    My design created over a year ago
    Soul And Soul by Peanut-Designs on deviantART

    Xdracs Copy created in the last few months.
    BLESS-Source Design by xDrac on deviantART

    Whats worse is the user openly denies he copied with the excuse he created every part him self


    I just dont want fellow ragezone members being duped by this user and getting copies of my work and paying him for the privilege. Why he is not as active in RZ as he once was any ability to halt him from defrauding people even if small is worth my time.

    I dont mind people using my work for inspiration but there is a clear line between being inspired and creating a copy. Something xDrac seems to fail to understand with his recent comments to me in a skype convo


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    Re: Policy On Known Thiefs

    I think, it's still inspiration by your art and not stealing. I do not see any 'strongly' copied parts. The blurry lightning looks similar, but the whole art of both of you are looking unique and not similar.
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    Its funny how you said you think its still inspiration yet we have never spoke and even wierdier that was xdracs lame excuse.

    The design is an obvoius copy and not inspired. It is like making a poor copy of a davinci and saying you was inspired and selling it. Inspiration is being inspired to create your own work not creating a near copy. Also he is charging clients for a design he does not own.

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    I have to agree with VibeTribe, they do not really look alike, only by colour scheme and the blurry lighting and the white-green stripes. If anybody uses this stripes you can't instantly assume they're copying you. Yes he obviously got inspiration from your design as they are very good.

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    Oh I see. Well sucks that people cant get creative and have to steal other peoples designs.

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    There is actually a version with a solid image i showed . It was the ealier version of this work.

    Also people should look. if you eplace my top with his you would barely notice a difference.. even the media player and the under bar for who posted that news is identical. Icons the same , layout the same, colour scheme the same, brush stroked footer and middle.area. lol even down to how the community feed text and colour is the same. The footer aswell is a clear copy.

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    Re: Policy On Known Thiefs

    Quote Originally Posted by שเ๒єtгเ๒є View Post
    I think, it's still inspiration by your art and not stealing. I do not see any 'strongly' copied parts. The blurry lightning looks similar, but the whole art of both of you are looking unique and not similar.
    It's not inspiration, this is pure copying of the general design of it all.

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    Re: Policy On Known Thiefs

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Kidd View Post
    Its funny how you said you think its still inspiration yet we have never spoke and even wierdier that was xdracs lame excuse.

    The design is an obvoius copy and not inspired. It is like making a poor copy of a davinci and saying you was inspired and selling it. Inspiration is being inspired to create your own work not creating a near copy. Also he is charging clients for a design he does not own.
    I shared my personal opinion. When looking to it in the first point it might look like a copy, however it's still drawn by himself, because the details are different.

    And by the way, without knowing any of you both, 'the poor copy' looks better in my eyes. However, at your last point I agree, when selling it, it should not be so near of any design. It's hard to decide the right side now, because as I said, the copy got much work into the creation for sure (because it's not copy/paste), but as said above the overall look is quite the same, but there are still many differences.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunerica View Post
    It's not inspiration, this is pure copying of the general design of it all.
    the general design, that's what I called overall look in this post. I was more referring to the details of the art in my first post. Perhaps when money comes into it, I think it's too far to look only for details.
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    Re: Policy On Known Thiefs

    Just because a design is not copy pasted does not mean its not a copy. If irecreate one of his designs it does not make that design mine as i am copying his work. The same can be said about copying a friends home work. Just becausr its in your handwriting does not make it yours

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    Well at first shot it doesn't look like pure copy, but if you look closer you will see few elements as inspiration from Sir Kidd

    so afterall

    Sirkid you should be proud u created good design enough and other use's it as inspiration, but yea f... copycats so i get the point of this thread.

    Just my opinion.

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    Re: Policy On Known Thiefs

    I'd say this is copying, and he definitely shouldn't be allowed to sell this here.. Although he made some edits to it.

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    Off topic.. How did you learn to design like that? I've been using photoshop for several years, but web designing is still tricky for me.. I've even had photoshop classes ( although not web design related. )


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    Re: Policy On Known Thiefs

    Not to be an ass or anything just to point out the obvious....

    Your design has no copyright on it anywhere...doesn't that mean its fair game?

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    Re: Policy On Known Thiefs

    Its a pretty obvious inspiration, though I have to say its not really a stolen design. Too much was changed for it to really be "stolen". Unless he somehow obtained your PSD for the design and used it without your permission to recreate this, then it just is in no way, shape, or form, stolen.

    Don't get me wrong, some parts are obvious copies, but in my opinion too much has been tweaked for it to be a direct copy and considered stolen. Stolen is taking what you have, changing the text, and then claiming ownership of the entire design. He didn't do that here.
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    This is a forum based completely on leaks, I see no reason why graphic pieces are any different from server files. Even if he did (note the italics) outright steal your design, why would it change anything?

    Many of my 3D models and ingame interface structures have been stolen, edited, and some even have had a price tag thrown on them; the funniest part being I have never made a single dime off my work.

    Just because he copies ('copy' taken very very lightly) you does not mean we should ban him from selling his work, and even if he was using your own files and reselling them, I see no problem. In a place like this, you have to be careful who you sell to.

    Note: Those designs you presented do not even look remotely similar. If this is the proof you are trying to tarnish this guy's reputation with, well, I think you should go back to the drawing board.

    @xDrac, you have my support bro. If what you are doing breaks copyright, well, I guess I should be awaiting the lawsuits any day now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wucas View Post
    This is a forum based completely on leaks, I see no reason why graphic pieces are any different from server files. Even if he did (note the italics) outright steal your design, why would it change anything?

    Many of my 3D models and ingame interface structures have been stolen, edited, and some even have had a price tag thrown on them; the funniest part being I have never made a single dime off my work.

    Just because he copies ('copy' taken very very lightly) you does not mean we should ban him from selling his work, and even if he was using your own files and reselling them, I see no problem. In a place like this, you have to be careful who you sell to.

    Note: Those designs you presented do not even look remotely similar. If this is the proof you are trying to tarnish this guy's reputation with, well, I think you should go back to the drawing board.

    @xDrac, you have my support bro. If what you are doing breaks copyright, well, I guess I should be awaiting the lawsuits any day now.

    The design is a clear copy of my work and does infringe on my work. Why the user does not directly use any content from my design he has coped nearly every detail and part.
    The navigation
    - Why the area was made darker it uses the exact same concept and even uses the same style of showing how something is selected. Even down to the faded underline dividing the two areas.

    The Header- Uses the exact same style and concept and look mine uses. Other than having used a slightly different brushes it is clear to see he simply tried to replicate mine but used a full image header [Something I also have a version of this design with and was shown for a short time] LOL even the dip of the brush above the news area is copied.
    Icons
    - Well the icons used again are an obvious copy of my own why slightly lesser. And why I can not own these the way he has used them shows again he copied my work

    News Area.
    The news area even down to how certain parts of the news text is bold and the rest not. Even down to the pointed drop box showing who posted is clearly copied from my design.

    Media Player
    Again what can I say. Every part is a clear copy of my own work design. This video launcher was created by myself and is not a public video launcher so he would not have simply found it else where.

    Community Posts.
    Even the way the colours have been placed on the text are a match.

    Footer.
    The footer again is a copy of my own just using slightly different brush strokes. Even who the two areas of the footer are divided are the same.

    Finally even down to the dot pattern used ontop of the green and blue fadding has been replicated.

    Why one part itself can not be said to be copy writable the design as a whole belongs to myself and he has simply replicated.

    Simply because he recreates the design does not make it his.




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