Hello & Welcome to our community. Is this your first visit? Register

Page 1 of 8 12345678 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 116
  1. #1
    Member marcoaurelio's Avatar

    Rank
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    30

    idea Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    --- [Discussion] Perfect World's free and open Emulator ---


    Some things I was thinking today:
    - Perfect World was released in 2005 in China;
    - Aion in 2008 in South Korea;
    - Aion already has a great and functional emulator;
    - Perfect World, as far as I know, has a closed emulator that nobody knows how is going the progress and neither if it will actually be released...

    So I wonder, why Perfect World, even though it was released three years before Aion, doesn't had the same evolution that Aion in terms of emulators?

    I see that there is community interest in an emulator.
    I'm sure we have great programmers in the community of Perfect World.

    So I ask again, why we don't have an free, open and solid emulator yet?
    Are we too concerned with customizations and enhancements and forgot what is really going to expand our horizons?
    Are we going too slow? Are we short sighted?

    What do you think, guys?
    (Yes, this topic is to entice you and know your opinions :thumb:)

    PS. 1: If there is any wrong information, please correct me.
    PS. 2: English is not my first language. Please forgive me if I had made any mistake.


    :tea:
    "Information and knowledge must be spread"

  2. # ADS
    HyperFilter
    RaGEZONE Sponsor

    Rank
      Sponsor  
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    9000


     

  3. #2
    Ultimate Member

    Rank
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    167

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    Find someone who have several year of experience in:
    -reverse engineering protocols
    -C++ or any stable coding language

    Then ask them if they're ready to spend about 1000h of work if not more, for free, on their free time to produce something.

    Once you have the above, you've got a good candidate to create an emulator. As far as I know, none of the pserver owner out there meet all the above requirement. Emulators don't pop out of nowhere with some willpower.

  4. #3
    Member marcoaurelio's Avatar

    Rank
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    30

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    I believe that building an emulator is a work by gamers for gamers.
    To engage in a project like this one must have real interest in seeing the ultimate goal realized.
    And first of all, you have to like the game itself (I refer here to an open source project, not for profit).

    From what you say, only the Aion's community has the will and, especially, the commitment to do this?
    Only they are good enough to do that, then?
    Because they did. As I said, they have a solid and free emulator.

    Why the Perfect World community can not do it?
    Does our community has not committed enough for that?

    "Oh, that's hard ..." "Ah, that takes time ..."
    Yes, it was difficult for them. That consumed their time. But they did. Not received a cent in return and released for all those who wants to make a server.

    We can't do like them? Only if we don't want to.
    The Perfect World community is worse than them? No. We have the same capabilities and the same passion for the game.

    Am I wrong?


    :tea:
    Last edited by marcoaurelio; 25-09-10 at 03:01 AM.
    "Information and knowledge must be spread"

  5. #4
    Account Upgraded | Title Enabled!

    Rank
    True Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    251

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    Many more than fun, many servers come to earn very high amount of money, and even the largest servers Private PW not seek professionals in the area. A Pack of PW with new classes, skill, etc. could be sold for a good value. I think that pw does not please the professional area.

  6. #5
    Black Magic Development das7002's Avatar

    Rank
    Alpha Male
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    2,192

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    Quote Originally Posted by marcoaurelio View Post
    I believe that building an emulator is a work by gamers for gamers.
    To engage in a project like this one must have real interest in seeing the ultimate goal realized.
    And first of all, you have to like the game itself (I refer here to an open source project, not for profit).

    From what you say, only the Aion's community has the will and, especially, the commitment to do this?
    Only they are good enough to do that, then?
    Because they did. As I said, they have a solid and free emulator.

    Why the Perfect World community can not do it?
    Does our community has not committed enough for that?

    "Oh, that's hard ..." "Ah, that takes time ..."
    Yes, it was difficult for them. That consumed their time. But they did. Not received a cent in return and released for all those who wants to make a server.

    We can't do like them? Only if we don't want to.
    The Perfect World community is worse than them? No. We have the same capabilities and the same passion for the game.

    Am I wrong?


    :tea:
    Aion and WoW and a lot of other large commercial MMOs we have server files available for had emulators made for the specific reason that the server files were never leaked like they were for PW and JD and w/e other PWRD games there are, because of that, there wasn't much of a need to put effort into making one if we already have an official and working one, thats just how it is tbh

  7. #6
    Don't Ask About Tideborn vixio_dv's Avatar

    Rank
    True Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    774

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    perfect world not aion.. aion not perfect world.. perfect world have god encrypted and offical site always update security.. u can see about cheat aion and perfect world.. aion can use only a little fucking cheat engine.. its will work.. but not for perfect world.. from v. 1.2.6 cheat engine never work on perfect world. new version aion can be decrypted.. but not for perfect world we have know.. korea not have good security on online games.. like gunz from korea..1 week after new version realease.. got cracked..

  8. #7
    SON OF MARFEL hrace009's Avatar

    Rank
    True Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Pekanbaru, Indo
    Posts
    956

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    i think those server file's at VBOX, VMWARE are the free Emulator/Simulation.
    NEVER PM ME ABOUT SERVER FILE'S, IF YOU NEED IT, FIND IT BY YOUR SELF!!!



  9. #8
    Member marcoaurelio's Avatar

    Rank
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    30

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    @das7002 and hrace009

    But you agree that until we have an emulator will not have new things?
    We will never have Genies, Tideborn, autopathing (just to mention a few things) and we will be not one but several steps behind the official servers?
    Or we will wait forever for the leak of a new version of the official server...
    We will always be tied to SQL injection and we'll never have real control over our databases?
    What do you think, guys?


    @vixio_dv

    Thanks for the information.


    @ Everyone who participated so far

    Thanks for sharing your opinions with us.


    PS.: If there is any wrong information, please correct me.


    :tea:
    "Information and knowledge must be spread"

  10. #9
    Black Magic Development das7002's Avatar

    Rank
    Alpha Male
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    2,192

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    Quote Originally Posted by marcoaurelio View Post
    @das7002 and hrace009

    But you agree that until we have an emulator will not have new things?
    We will never have Genies, Tideborn, autopathing (just to mention a few things) and we will be not one but several steps behind the official servers?
    Or we will wait forever for the leak of a new version of the official server...
    We will always be tied to SQL injection and we'll never have real control over our databases?
    What do you think, guys?


    @vixio_dv

    Thanks for the information.


    @ Everyone who participated so far

    Thanks for sharing your opinions with us.


    PS.: If there is any wrong information, please correct me.


    :tea:
    First off, like vixio said, the server and the client have always had god like encryption, so that is really something would take a lot of effort to get cracked, and still hasn't been done as far as I know of

    Secondly, who the hell wrote the scripts running on your server if you are getting SQL injection issues?

    Autopathing is probably client sided and someone will eventually get it Im sure of that, tideborn even on official are still bugged to hell, why would we want them?

    Genies, sure you can have them, just make an all class pet using the genie gfx etc

    And even though aion has many servers out there, like I said earlier they exist for WoW and Aion etc because there will never be a leak, ever, that is a damn fact. It was also dead simple to reverse engineer it all, its kind of shameful how easily they managed to pull it off, BUT there are many things that just don't work at all with them

    If you want to spend years trying to reverse engineer this goliath and buggy monster of a server we have, that not even the developers in china working on it now have a clue about, be my guest, but don't come here when what we have is a working server and client that isn't all that buggy, relatively stable, and we have gotten a lot of things working that are seemingly wtf inducing, its all a matter of working with what you have, not trying to take something you have no idea how it works at all and making a new one.

  11. #10
    Member marcoaurelio's Avatar

    Rank
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    30

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    @das7002

    Thanks for sharing your opinion.


    @all

    All opinions are welcome.


    :tea:
    "Information and knowledge must be spread"

  12. #11
    world2.com.cn Romulan's Avatar

    Rank
    Gamma
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    3,275

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    Quote Originally Posted by das7002 View Post
    tideborn even on official are still bugged to hell, why would we want them?
    Many ppl here want them

    And they are not bugged

  13. #12
    Don't Ask About Tideborn vixio_dv's Avatar

    Rank
    True Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    774

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    sure not bugged if we got server files from offical..

  14. #13
    Member marcoaurelio's Avatar

    Rank
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    30

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    Just a few examples of commitment and passion to which I referred earlier:

    The Aion Lightning Project is a GPL licensed open-source community project for creating a Java-based Aion server. The members maintain the project only for their own and Aion players entertainment and has no intention in getting any profit out of the developments.

    From: Aion Lightning Handbook
    Quote Originally Posted by dannybest View Post
    Hy @Vav I really apreciate your offer but I will keep working for myself and this community, no offence. Thanks very much and see around...

    My greetings to Aion-Lightning's community, dannybest (Aion's Community), 343, aringaso, Drakaer, hrace009, nofxpunkerbrian, rbb138, Romulan, ronny1982 and many others not cited here that do a wonderful job on behalf of the entire community.


    :tea:
    "Information and knowledge must be spread"

  15. #14
    world2.com.cn Romulan's Avatar

    Rank
    Gamma
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    3,275

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    I'm not a coder but i can be a nice tester to check missing/wrong/bugged things with the emulator

    Like some players did for the Aion Private Server thread.

  16. #15
    Game Developer snaity's Avatar

    Rank
    True Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Campinas, Brazi
    Posts
    921

    Re: Perfect World's free and open Emulator

    Check this out >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    If you want to help, just ask them =D

 

 
Page 1 of 8 12345678 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
HyperFilter
Sponsored by HyperFilter , secured by Incapsula , powered by LiteSpeed.
Mods by DBTech. All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:27 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright , Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.