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Not trying to be a jerk, but these moves are things I've been working on since the alpha build and the eu beta phase 1 build.
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Also, what do you mean BEST on Ivan and Rena? Max doesn't really have any cancellations, and Elena only has Pseudo-BF, she doesn't have lightsteps. Max can't do blockrushing, Elena/Rena/Ivan can. Rena has a far superior juggle to Ivan, but Ivan has a slightly farther tipslash range. Both of them can doublelightstep however. I would have to rate the character abilities in this order: Rena>Ivan>=Elena>Max
