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travian t4 by yi12345 bugs by Juddy HELP

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Ok here i will report all bugs that i found on that version if someone from this forum will help i will be very thanfull for those peple the bad news i dont have any money to pay them or skills to fix these kind of bus however i know some php and sometimes just right way in file can get bug fixed by me so im not 100Į worthless :)

bug list thta i found by using t4 version by yi12345 <-- this!

1. FIXED
2. with travian plus bigger map is complete bugged down
3. FIXED
4. FIXED
 
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sorry i don't know what u mean to say with this comment with installation i don't have problems i write down with what i have problems.
 
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TravianT4 is full of bugs unfixed so dont use it !!!
Use travianz because it's bugless and dev team improves it every day with bug fixes !!
 
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well if nobody will help me here i will try fix it myself like i said im not 100% worthless :(
 
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Man the whole dev team is focused improving travianz script not traviant4 that's why this t4 script is full of bugs !!!
You can try improving t4 script,any bug fix is welcome ;)
 
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i understand that but for my its better t4 version its just my personal opinion, and im testing that script maybe 3 days now and i founded just these bugs and i tested a lot also few bugs i didint write here but i will be able to fix them myself and im a girl btw :D
 
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Ahh sorry ;) girl xD
Yes i also think that it's better to have t4 server but i think it's better to have first t3 version almost completed without bugs and only then focus yourself to start fixing t4 !!
Anyway that's my opinion :)
Add me on skype if you have more questions !!
Nick: salko.balic
Btw I am not useless in php as you too :)
But I am better in html and css ;)
 
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yes i agree for the community its very important to have 3.6 version without bugs maybe some day thay will start t4 fixing but u can try yourself my version that i use it has not that much bugs how u image i mean it has some bus yes but i think its not that bad version at all
 
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Well i have managed fix most of the bugs i could find that includes bugs i didint say in this topic and now it basically left map bugs which i will try fix in near future if i will able to do that and bugs i have discovered and not focused maybe someone will help?

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming

2. In that version armoury doesnt exist i have managed to build it via url but it simply when u open it its empty

3. With teutons baracks does not list in build list

4. With romans stonemanson lodge and palace doesnt show in build list

5. U cant build great wearhouse or granary in your capital i mean fisrt city beacause it also doesnt show on the list however on the second city that i build everything is corecltlly

6. U cant bring back troops when u send them i mean in original travian u can bring back toops under 90 seconds and in this version u cant

7. Heroes mensions well playing as roman it shows oasis that doesnt exist

8. U cant send as reinforsment spyes (legates etc)

Bugs that i fixed +-20 are small or medium i didint receive any help just big ignore i understand that people are working for free here but im disapointed that most of members says like ok ok i will help u wait a second and disapears i prefer straight chat. Maybe here this message will reply member who knows where i should serach im not asking for bug fix i dont expect that someone will actually help me because if someone that i asked would probally i managed fix bug that i listed above.

If someone wants to hear the bugs that i fixed i dont remember exactly all of them but u can drop me a line PM i will try my best to list them in order. THANKS!

 
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Daily bump and update of bugs some i fixed already:

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming

2. In that version armoury doesnt exist i have managed to build it via url but it simply when u open it its empty

3. FIXED

4. FIXED

5. U cant build great wearhouse or granary in your capital i mean fisrt city beacause it also doesnt show on the list however on the second city that i build everything is corecltlly

6. U cant bring back troops when u send them i mean in original travian u can bring back toops under 90 seconds and in this version u cant

7. Heroes mensions well playing as roman it shows oasis that doesnt exist

8. U cant send as reinforsment spyes (legates etc)

9. In the workshop only catapuls doenst matter u build 1 or 100 show 0:00? ending time

10. Some graphic bugs also

11. Whole market buy/sell trade doesnt work also doesnt work send resources funcion

12. In rally point when u have reinforsments u cant see troops or anything it trwos sql error
 
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Ok i fixed some bugs and find more

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming

2. FIXED
3. FIXED

4. FIXED

5. U cant build great wearhouse or granary in your capital i mean fisrt city beacause it also doesnt show on the list however on the second city that i build everything is corecltlly

6. U cant bring back troops when u send them i mean in original travian u can bring back toops under 90 seconds and in this version u cant

7. FIXED

8. U cant send as reinforsment spyes (legates etc)

9. FIXED

10. 99% that i could find fixed

11. FIXED

12. FIXED

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So bugs that left in my version: (what i could find searhing every day lol)

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming .

2. U cant build great wearhouse or granary in your capital i mean fisrt city beacause it also doesnt show on the list however on the second city that i build everything is corecltlly

3. U cant bring back troops when u send them i mean in original travian u can bring back toops under 90 seconds and in this version u cant.

4. Workshop when u build 1 catapult or 1 battering ram in some time its random after some time 3-5 minutes it disdapears but if u build 2 units or more its ok

5. Ally forum doesnt display in ally description doesnt matter u have public forums or not

6. Ally chat doesnt work (i starter fixing this issue but i got problem i fixed chat but messages dosent display only nicname so i guess its not fixed LOL will try fix 100%)

7. U can atack oasis with normal atacks or reinforce them

Main problem is that i dont know in what files i should look in order to fix bugs so mostof the time i jsut searching files also im not pro on php so big time of my coding is searching in google solution im not useless in php.
IF SOMEBODY JUST HELP ME OUT WITH THIS THING JUST POINT OUT FILE NAME OR LOCATION WHERE I SHOULD LOOK IT WOULD BE BIG HELP, but nobody is replying i dont know if they dont know or dont want or dont have a time but i will concider sharing files if nobody will help me when i will fix these things and more that i will find.


 
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Ok i fixed some bugs and find more

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming

2. FIXED
3. FIXED

4. FIXED

5. U cant build great wearhouse or granary in your capital i mean fisrt city beacause it also doesnt show on the list however on the second city that i build everything is corecltlly

6. U cant bring back troops when u send them i mean in original travian u can bring back toops under 90 seconds and in this version u cant

7. FIXED

8. U cant send as reinforsment spyes (legates etc)

9. FIXED

10. 99% that i could find fixed

11. FIXED

12. FIXED

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So bugs that left in my version: (what i could find searhing every day lol)

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming .

2. U cant build great wearhouse or granary in your capital i mean fisrt city beacause it also doesnt show on the list however on the second city that i build everything is corecltlly

3. U cant bring back troops when u send them i mean in original travian u can bring back toops under 90 seconds and in this version u cant.

4. Workshop when u build 1 catapult or 1 battering ram in some time its random after some time 3-5 minutes it disdapears but if u build 2 units or more its ok

5. Ally forum doesnt display in ally description doesnt matter u have public forums or not

6. Ally chat doesnt work (i starter fixing this issue but i got problem i fixed chat but messages dosent display only nicname so i guess its not fixed LOL will try fix 100%)

7. U can atack oasis with normal atacks or reinforce them

Main problem is that i dont know in what files i should look in order to fix bugs so mostof the time i jsut searching files also im not pro on php so big time of my coding is searching in google solution im not useless in php.
IF SOMEBODY JUST HELP ME OUT WITH THIS THING JUST POINT OUT FILE NAME OR LOCATION WHERE I SHOULD LOOK IT WOULD BE BIG HELP, but nobody is replying i dont know if they dont know or dont want or dont have a time but i will concider sharing files if nobody will help me when i will fix these things and more that i will find.


I would help you if i know php,but I dont know php :( !
 
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Well yes i understand that people who cant help because they simply dont know how are not bad comunity members im not calling this community bad dont get me wrong let me explain like this:
If there is people who has skills to help me and they are standing for open source things that means free im open for help because im only ~3 days in this travian stuff i dont understand everything simply because im not enought skilled to do that however i can and will fix bugs with time, but i would be really happy if someone would help me who has skills to do it.
Bug list update:

So bugs that i fixed from previuos update :

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming .

2. U cant build great wearhouse or granary in your capital i mean fisrt city beacause it also doesnt show on the list however on the second city that i build everything is corecltlly

3. U cant bring back troops when u send them i mean in original travian u can bring back toops under 90 seconds and in this version u cant.

4. FIXED

5. FIXED

6. FIXED

7. FIXED


Bugs that left in my version: (what i could find searching every day lol)

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming .

2. U cant build great wearhouse or granary in your capital i mean fisrt city beacause it also doesnt show on the list however on the second city that i build everything is corecltlly

3. U cant bring back troops when u send them i mean in original travian u can bring back toops under 90 seconds and in this version u cant.

4. Its very funny bug when u train at the same time all troops on the baracks BUT EVERY TROOP 1 NOT MORE when first troops is done of 3 and finished in baracks left only 1 troop training for example with romans i didint test with more nations
I started train 1 legionnaire -->
1 Praetorian --> 1 Imperian at the same time and when legionnaire finished training Imperian disapears and only Praetorian is left to train. I was testing this with all race troops tried train 1 of eatch of same time and catapult on workshops disapears somehow, also in stable elite romans troops disaperas too i dont know 100% how this bug is working so i dont want to say any wrong info. BUT IF U TRAIN AT THE SAME TIME MORE THAN 1 EXAMPLE 10 OF EATCH RACE TROOPS IW AS TESTING THIS WITH ROMAN, EEVERYTHING IS OK

With this bug i will need help because honest i know where to look but i dont know how to fix it tried couple hours....


5. When u are training senator or settlers it shows 0:000? and now always trains



Also with 1 2 3 bugs i know where i should search also but as long as i tried only fails came out with the time i will fix it but if someone help me out as well with this would be BIG HELP.
 
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Ok i got some news on my fixing i fixed only number 5 bug so bugs that remains

Bugs that left in my version: (what i could find searching every day lol)

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming .

UPDATE on this bug
2. I dont know where should i look for this one but in build list its now showing great baracks ir great stable or great workshop in new city with teutons example i tested u cant build residence simply because its not showing on the list great wearhouse and great granary is showing on second city taht ucreate but this is a bug i rembered taht those u can build whe u are in natar village, when u have 10 lvl main building on your second city it simply dont let u build those 2 just showing on the list.

3. U cant bring back troops when u send them i mean in original travian u can bring back toops under 90 seconds and in this version u cant.

4. Its very funny bug when u train at the same time all troops on the baracks BUT EVERY TROOP 1 NOT MORE when first troops is done of 3 and finished in baracks left only 1 troop training for example with romans i didint test with more nations
I started train 1 legionnaire -->
1 Praetorian --> 1 Imperian at the same time and when legionnaire finished training Imperian disapears and only Praetorian is left to train. I was testing this with all race troops tried train 1 of eatch of same time and catapult on workshops disapears somehow, also in stable elite romans troops disaperas too i dont know 100% how this bug is working so i dont want to say any wrong info. BUT IF U TRAIN AT THE SAME TIME MORE THAN 1 EXAMPLE 10 OF EATCH RACE TROOPS IW AS TESTING THIS WITH ROMAN, EEVERYTHING IS OK

With this bug i will need help because honest i know where to look but i dont know how to fix it tried couple hours....

Also i discovered 1 new bug.
I tought i fixed starvation 100% but apparently no. Now its my bug because in original version troops just wont die doesn't matter reinforcements or not now my troops are not dying just what i trained not reinforcements but crop adds just troop not disappears like it supposed to be. Example i gave -14 crop in my village and 5 troops and 5 crop left and when crop is equel 0 it shows that i have 30 crop like 1 died but the bug is that 0 troops died. Normal should be 30 crop adds (it depends what race tropps u have my example is with legioniere's) when 1 troop dies and from my 5 troop 4 will be alive and so on.
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however in my first post of this topic on 2 section i was saying that map for users who has plus i mean karte2.php
is complete bugged down so i fixed that


How it looks now:
Juddy Swaft - travian t4 by yi12345 bugs by Juddy HELP - RaGEZONE Forums


How it looked before:
Juddy Swaft - travian t4 by yi12345 bugs by Juddy HELP - RaGEZONE Forums
 
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Ok my daily update i have a small hope that somebody will help me but as far 0 help.

Previuos bugs:

1. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming .


2. FIXED

3. FIXED

4. Its very funny bug when u train at the same time all troops on the baracks BUT EVERY TROOP 1 NOT MORE when first troops is done of 3 and finished in baracks left only 1 troop training for example with romans i didint test with more nations
I started train 1 legionnaire --> 1 Praetorian --> 1 Imperian at the same time and when legionnaire finished training Imperian disapears and only Praetorian is left to train. I was testing this with all race troops tried train 1 of eatch of same time and catapult on workshops disapears somehow, also in stable elite romans troops disaperas too i dont know 100% how this bug is working so i dont want to say any wrong info. BUT IF U TRAIN AT THE SAME TIME MORE THAN 1 EXAMPLE 10 OF EATCH RACE TROOPS IW AS TESTING THIS WITH ROMAN, EEVERYTHING IS OK

With this bug i will need help because honest i know where to look but i dont know how to fix it tried couple hours....
Also i discovered 1 new bug.
I tought i fixed starvation 100% but apparently no. Now its my bug because in original version troops just wont die doesn't matter reinforcements or not now my troops are not dying just what i trained not reinforcements but crop adds just troop not disappears like it supposed to be. Example i gave -14 crop in my village and 5 troops and 5 crop left and when crop is equel 0 it shows that i have 30 crop like 1 died but the bug is that 0 troops died. Normal should be 30 crop adds (it depends what race tropps u have my example is with legioniere's) when 1 troop dies and from my 5 troop 4 will be alive and so on.


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Bugs that left in my version (im checking every day):

1. Its very funny bug when u train at the same time all troops on the baracks BUT EVERY TROOP 1 NOT MORE when first troops is done of 3 and finished in baracks left only 1 troop training for example with romans i didint test with more nations
I started train 1 legionnaire -->
1 Praetorian --> 1 Imperian at the same time and when legionnaire finished training Imperian disapears and only Praetorian is left to train. I was testing this with all race troops tried train 1 of eatch of same time and catapult on workshops disapears somehow, also in stable elite romans troops disaperas too i dont know 100% how this bug is working so i dont want to say any wrong info. BUT IF U TRAIN AT THE SAME TIME MORE THAN 1 EXAMPLE 10 OF EATCH RACE TROOPS IW AS TESTING THIS WITH ROMAN, EEVERYTHING IS OK

With this bug i will need help because honest i know where to look but i dont know how to fix it tried couple hours....


2. I tought i fixed starvation 100% but apparently no. Now its my bug because in original version troops just wont die doesn't matter reinforcements or not now my troops are not dying just what i trained not reinforcements but crop adds just troop not disappears like it supposed to be. Example i gave -14 crop in my village and 5 troops and 5 crop left and when crop is equel 0 it shows that i have 30 crop like 1 died but the bug is that 0 troops died. Normal should be 30 crop adds (it depends what race tropps u have my example is with legioniere's) when 1 troop dies and from my 5 troop 4 will be alive and so on.

3. when someone atacks your oasis it doesnt show on city that atack is comming .

Near plans:
1. Add female hero
2. Add daily task like in trav 5
3. Build ajax map
 
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Daily bump and small update on the bugs.

1. Its very funny bug when u train at the same time all troops on the baracks BUT EVERY TROOP 1 NOT MORE when first troops is done of 3 and finished in baracks left only 1 troop training for example with romans i didint test with more nations
I started train 1 legionnaire --> 1 Praetorian --> 1 Imperian at the same time and when legionnaire finished training Imperian disapears and only Praetorian is left to train. I was testing this with all race troops tried train 1 of eatch of same time and catapult on workshops disapears somehow, also in stable elite romans troops disaperas too i dont know 100% how this bug is working so i dont want to say any wrong info. BUT IF U TRAIN AT THE SAME TIME MORE THAN 1 EXAMPLE 10 OF EATCH RACE TROOPS IW AS TESTING THIS WITH ROMAN, EEVERYTHING IS OK

With this bug i will need help because honest i know where to look but i dont know how to fix it tried couple hours....

2. I tought i fixed starvation 100% but apparently no. Now its my bug because in original version troops just wont die doesn't matter reinforcements or not now my troops are not dying just what i trained not reinforcements but crop adds just troop not disappears like it supposed to be. Example i gave -14 crop in my village and 5 troops and 5 crop left and when crop is equel 0 it shows that i have 30 crop like 1 died but the bug is that 0 troops died. Normal should be 30 crop adds (it depends what race tropps u have my example is with legioniere's) when 1 troop dies and from my 5 troop 4 will be alive and so on.

3. FIXED.


I noticed that hero adventure on the movement is wrong so when i fixed oasis atack movement i fixed hero movement also now it looks like this:
Juddy Swaft - travian t4 by yi12345 bugs by Juddy HELP - RaGEZONE Forums


How it looked before:
Juddy Swaft - travian t4 by yi12345 bugs by Juddy HELP - RaGEZONE Forums


Also in rally point it will be colorfull and smooth as well that bug fixed also.


Now i will show classified bugs in 3 categories seriuos, medium, easy, i discovered more bugs so.

Seriuos:
1. Its very funny bug when u train at the same time all troops on the baracks BUT EVERY TROOP 1 NOT MORE when first troops is done of 3 and finished in baracks left only 1 troop training for example with romans i didint test with more nations
I started train 1 legionnaire -->
1 Praetorian --> 1 Imperian at the same time and when legionnaire finished training Imperian disapears and only Praetorian is left to train. I was testing this with all race troops tried train 1 of eatch of same time and catapult on workshops disapears somehow, also in stable elite romans troops disaperas too i dont know 100% how this bug is working so i dont want to say any wrong info. BUT IF U TRAIN AT THE SAME TIME MORE THAN 1 EXAMPLE 10 OF EATCH RACE TROOPS IW AS TESTING THIS WITH ROMAN, EEVERYTHING IS OK

With this bug i will need help because honest i know where to look but i dont know how to fix it tried couple hours....


2. I tought i fixed starvation 100% but apparently no. Now its my bug because in original version troops just wont die doesn't matter reinforcements or not now my troops are not dying just what i trained not reinforcements but crop adds just troop not disappears like it supposed to be. Example i gave -14 crop in my village and 5 troops and 5 crop left and when crop is equel 0 it shows that i have 30 crop like 1 died but the bug is that 0 troops died. Normal should be 30 crop adds (it depends what race tropps u have my example is with legioniere's) when 1 troop dies and from my 5 troop 4 will be alive and so on.


Medium:
1. On the map on your oasis it doest show the player who belong that osasis doesnt matter that u concured that oasis, and in first oasis your tribe shows correct but im roman dont know how this wills how on others tribes but on others 2 oasis it shows that im gaul LOL.

2. On adventure with teutonts random it gives u x37 legioniers instead it should give x37 clubswingers but in the end when they come home they are clubswingers just primary info is bad


Easy:
1. Oasis images are bugged down complete somewhere it doenst show images but most of them incorect example thereis 25 % crop and 25% iron when u click on oasis it shows you 50% clay.

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Near plans after i will test all game with all tribes to the end and hope will fix all bugs that i will spot:
1. Add female hero
2. Add daily task like in trav 5
3. Build ajax map



P.s seriuos bugs are very important to me still i didint get any help from any member that i asked or not and this to be honest sucks.
 
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well i have read on this forum that copyright is only for graphic packs and i dont compite with official travian its open source projexct i will not use or make money of that
 
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Now i will show classified bugs in 3 categories seriuos, medium, easy, i discovered more bugs so.

Seriuos:
1. Its very funny bug when u train at the same time all troops on the baracks BUT EVERY TROOP 1 NOT MORE when first troops is done of 3 and finished in baracks left only 1 troop training for example with romans i didint test with more nations
I started train 1 legionnaire --> 1 Praetorian --> 1 Imperian at the same time and when legionnaire finished training Imperian disapears and only Praetorian is left to train. I was testing this with all race troops tried train 1 of eatch of same time and catapult on workshops disapears somehow, also in stable elite romans troops disaperas too i dont know 100% how this bug is working so i dont want to say any wrong info. BUT IF U TRAIN AT THE SAME TIME MORE THAN 1 EXAMPLE 10 OF EATCH RACE TROOPS IW AS TESTING THIS WITH ROMAN, EEVERYTHING IS OK

With this bug i will need help because honest i know where to look but i dont know how to fix it tried couple hours....

2. I tought i fixed starvation 100% but apparently no. Now its my bug because in original version troops just wont die doesn't matter reinforcements or not now my troops are not dying just what i trained not reinforcements but crop adds just troop not disappears like it supposed to be. Example i gave -14 crop in my village and 5 troops and 5 crop left and when crop is equel 0 it shows that i have 30 crop like 1 died but the bug is that 0 troops died. Normal should be 30 crop adds (it depends what race tropps u have my example is with legioniere's) when 1 troop dies and from my 5 troop 4 will be alive and so on.


Medium:
1. FIXED

2. On adventure with teutonts random it gives u x37 legioniers instead it should give x37 clubswingers but in the end when they come home they are clubswingers just primary info is bad

Easy:
1. Oasis images are bugged down complete somewhere it doenst show images but most of them incorect example thereis 25 % crop and 25% iron when u click on oasis it shows you 50% clay.



Near plans after i will test all game with all tribes to the end and hope will fix all bugs that i will spot:
1. Add female hero
2. Add daily task like in trav 5
3. Build ajax map


P.s seriuos bugs are very important to me still i didint get any help from any member that i asked or not and this to be honest sucks.



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It was easter and i didint do much but i have managed to do something updated version on the bugs and not only on this

Seriuos:
1. Its very funny bug when u train at the same time all troops on the baracks BUT EVERY TROOP 1 NOT MORE when first troops is done of 3 and finished in baracks left only 1 troop training for example with romans i didint test with more nations
I started train 1 legionnaire -->
1 Praetorian --> 1 Imperian at the same time and when legionnaire finished training Imperian disapears and only Praetorian is left to train. I was testing this with all race troops tried train 1 of eatch of same time and catapult on workshops disapears somehow, also in stable elite romans troops disaperas too i dont know 100% how this bug is working so i dont want to say any wrong info. BUT IF U TRAIN AT THE SAME TIME MORE THAN 1 EXAMPLE 10 OF EATCH RACE TROOPS IW AS TESTING THIS WITH ROMAN, EEVERYTHING IS OK

With this bug i will need help because honest i know where to look but i dont know how to fix it tried couple hours....


2. I tought i fixed starvation 100% but apparently no. Now its my bug because in original version troops just wont die doesn't matter reinforcements or not now my troops are not dying just what i trained not reinforcements but crop adds just troop not disappears like it supposed to be. Example i gave -14 crop in my village and 5 troops and 5 crop left and when crop is equel 0 it shows that i have 30 crop like 1 died but the bug is that 0 troops died. Normal should be 30 crop adds (it depends what race tropps u have my example is with legioniere's) when 1 troop dies and from my 5 troop 4 will be alive and so on.


Medium:

1. On adventure with teutonts random it gives u x37 legioniers instead it should give x37 clubswingers but in the end when they come home they are clubswingers just primary info is bad


Easy:
1. Oasis images are bugged down complete somewhere it doenst show images but most of them incorect example thereis 25 % crop and 25% iron when u click on oasis it shows you 50% clay.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Near plans after i will test all game with all tribes to the end and hope will fix all bugs that i will spot:
1. Add female hero
2. Add daily task like in trav 4.4
3. Build ajax map (with black parts liek in trav 4.4)



P.s seriuos bugs are very important to me still i didint get any help from any member that i asked or not and this to be honest sucks.



As u can see i have only fixed 1 medium bug also there was in palace bug that dont show time when u train imperator or setelers this bug is fixed also and when u want build palace u cant because it shows that u dont have enougth resources doenst matter that u have enought this bug is fixed also.

Also i did some nice things like:

I added multihunter special admin panel so now u can add more than one multihunter and they will have special admin panels intergraited in game with nice layout will show bit later because now it in my language but yes. :)

managed to put all translations into 1 big file en.php in language directory before this most of translations where in diffrerent files now its in 1 big file so anybody can translate into their language that version without problems.



Also wanted to thanks nobody because nobody helped me before and now Ronix this member was like ok ok i will help u and then was big ignore probaly he doenst know how to fix those bugs and other members where same thing saying at dfirst that they will help and then ignore thing starts i prefer straight chat without any shenanigans if thet dont want help this is ok but i prefetr that tehy say at the begining all not lie...
 
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