Private The best version of Habbo

[Boraida]

It's plain and simple. What do you think what's the best version of Habbo and why?
I'm just curious, having sometimes some free time and want to create a server, but can't choose which version.

 

[Marcois]

Re: The best verion of Habbo

R63B

 

[FlyHotel]

Re: The best verion of Habbo

The version that Habbo has now. I will call it PRODUCTION, others R63B R63C.

 

[streamhotel]

Re: The best verion of Habbo

R63B for sure. Don't mistake with Habbo's current policy, unsociableness, poor competitions because this has nothing todo with client version. Much people are saying Habbo was much more fun a past ago, true but that's dependent of Habbo players and alot of Sulake, since they banned casino's out there's for much people a lot fun dissapeared..

But to come back why r63b is better then r63;
- Alot of good features like; buy multitiple items (yeah you could also support on r63 with a command but that's just awfull and not user friendly enough in my eyes), LTD support (^^)

- Good features for builders; floorplanner, stacktiles, change room background color

- Room related; Habbo groups, much more room settings like banned userlist, chat-flow settings, permissions to kick/mute/ban

- Moderation; support for automatic alert template (faster handle issues then regular issue handle template), helper tools, bully report to help mods, machine ban support for ban a person based on his/her flash id, mute support

- Other features; love lock, pinata, forums (pretty easier to moderate because it's done game side with issue handling), Habbo camera, flexible hotel view (Nice to give players much crucial information), crafting options

back-end: R63b is using rc4 after initcrypto en secret key event to transfer data from client to server. This is alot more safer because the transfered data is encrypted when sended to server.

 

[ShowStopper]

Re: The best verion of Habbo

I have to say v18-v35 would be the best for me. I was when habbo was really rolling I have to say. Pre flash, Just simply because things felt for connected. Casinos, Trade rooms, Hangouts were booming. Especially trade rooms. Your room didn't have to be filled with rares, You had friends then your room would get packed quick. Now days it's all about shops and gaining profit from buying and selling and everyone is trying to do that so it almost isn't worth doing that. Casinos controlled 70% of the economy if not more. The r63 or Production 63 whatever you want to call that version of habbo is great and is future packed with things we could never do before but everyone knows Casinos would jump start habbo again, Won't be 8k on daily like it used to be but a lot of players would return someway or another and a lot of richer habbos sold out to the black market before the values took a major turn at least that's what me and a few others did who were known around the hotel.

 

[Emily]

Re: The best verion of Habbo

I'd say v9. It has a bunch of reasons.

- It was fast.
- In-client login (which meant you could easier have a shortcut to the client instead having to go through the login process every time).
- Furniture loaded insanely fast due to all furniture being stored in a few CCTs except of all in separated CCTs.
- It had the oldest battleball which was the best version.
- It had camera, the old camera was really fun.
- It looked really nice.
- Fun.

Also mostly because of how Habbo itself was at that time. It was fun, people were nice to each other, the whole worthness of furni was good. Rares didn't cost a huge price, and yeah, it was a fun time.

streamhotel Every version Habbo used actually had encryption using RC4. Camera was also in the older versions (just a bit different but kind of cooler), machine ban support was also in older versions (the UNIQUEID fuse request returned the machine id which is basically used for machine ban).

No hate mate, I'm just pointing some things out. I have to admit that I'd love to implement some things from R63/PRODUCTION into shockwave... (if only I could get Lingo scripts...)

 

[Moogly]

Re: The best verion of Habbo

If it's related to Shockwave versions then v13 or v13 with v17 habbo clothes. I also really enjoyed Habbo BETA, and I believe r54 / r56 and whatever version Snowlight by Meth0d (not the edits, but the very last version he touched) was based around were my favorite flash versions. I don't like the new stuff much, it's too much garbage in one screen. The CMS is highly pointless at this point and they might as well have gone back to logging on via the Client.

Also whatever version Butterfly supported when I leaked it. I don't care all the crap people talk, Butterfly as it was originally leaked was more stable than any of the edits that surfaced afterwards. People can complain all they want, but Zap Hotel had 2 thousand + users online with the last release of Butterfly no issues. Can't say you see that much nowadays.

 

[ovflowd]

Re: The best verion of Habbo

R63B for sure. Don't mistake with Habbo's current policy, unsociableness, poor competitions because this has nothing todo with client version. Much people are saying Habbo was much more fun a past ago, true but that's dependent of Habbo players and alot of Sulake, since they banned casino's out there's for much people a lot fun dissapeared..

But to come back why r63b is better then r63;
- Alot of good features like; buy multitiple items (yeah you could also support on r63 with a command but that's just awfull and not user friendly enough in my eyes), LTD support (^^)

- Good features for builders; floorplanner, stacktiles, change room background color

- Room related; Habbo groups, much more room settings like banned userlist, chat-flow settings, permissions to kick/mute/ban

- Moderation; support for automatic alert template (faster handle issues then regular issue handle template), helper tools, bully report to help mods, machine ban support for ban a person based on his/her flash id, mute support

- Other features; love lock, pinata, forums (pretty easier to moderate because it's done game side with issue handling), Habbo camera, flexible hotel view (Nice to give players much crucial information), crafting options

back-end: R63b is using rc4 after initcrypto en secret key event to transfer data from client to server. This is alot more safer because the transfered data is encrypted when sended to server.

Sorry but i cannot agree with you.

1. Multiple items exists before R63B, Change Room Background Color exists since v20. Builders Club it's just bull poop, and only some people use it. Stack tiles it's yes a good feature.

2. Automatic Alert Template it's on my opinion just a way to make less staff working at Sulake. Helper Tools it's other way to make Habbo Users be "Sulake Employers". Something equal that was really fun and good was Habbo X's and Habbo Guides (v24~, those with the Animals Badges). Habbo Ambassadors it's another bull poop that people use to abuse power. This happens mainly in Habbo.com.br

3. Forums it's a poop, i rather prefer the Forums in the CMS (v22 - v38) (Integrated in the CMS, not that bull poop forum of PRE R63) time. It's just 1000x better. Emoticons, BBCode, and more. This in-client forum has so many bugs and is horrible..

4. Habbo Camera exists since v9... And was so more good. You didn't pay for your photos, only for the camera. Only paid to save the photos in a furniture. I just don't like those selfie-effects.. just useless.

5. RC4 crypto it's useless. You can easily bypass it with the computer power that we have today. Also can easily break it with Packet Loggers. Actually we already did the Habbo Encryption and Habbo Encoding reverse engineering, so it's just useless. Don't matter in this point being old crypto or new crypto, since we can bypass in same way. Obviously in old times those Script Tools was a lot more powerful, but Habbo Script Tools aren't like Hacke Tools from CS:GO, or CrossFire, that makes the game massive, hard, and boring. Habbo script tools was funny and everyone love it, and doesn't bothered your playing time. (Except when someone injects thousand of bots hahahahah)

6. Only Old Habbo has the famous Battleball, Snow Storm and many other games. Not those FURNITURE poop. Those in-room games are only a way to Sulake earn more money.

7. The old public rooms and old lobbies was a lot more better. Pets in old times was loveful also, you need take care of they or they die.

8. Cassinos was sooooo good.

9. I love the old Habbo Pool, was really amazing.

10. Only old Habbo has the great Habbo Exchange, not those poop of today.

11. Was really more faster and using a lot of less memory and CPU.

12. Awesome staff, good events. (Not related to Habbo Version)

13. I prefer thousand of times Old Habbo CMS (Holo-style) rather than this Habbo HTML5 + Angular poop. Why reinvent the Ducking wheel?

14. Trax was amazing. You can create your own songs. Not those CD-Disks poop. Trax was amazing!!!

15. Old Moderation Tools many times better. Automatic ban it's poop. Also i miss bobba.

Conclusion: Old Habbo it's 10000x better than this R63 poop. Good times: v9 - v38

 

[streamhotel]

Re: The best verion of Habbo

Sorry but i cannot agree with you.

1. Multiple items exists before R63B, Change Room Background Color exists since v20. Builders Club it's just bull poop, and only some people use it. Stack tiles it's yes a good feature.

2. Automatic Alert Template it's on my opinion just a way to make less staff working at Sulake. Helper Tools it's other way to make Habbo Users be "Sulake Employers". Something equal that was really fun and good was Habbo X's and Habbo Guides (v24~, those with the Animals Badges). Habbo Ambassadors it's another bull poop that people use to abuse power. This happens mainly in Habbo.com.br

3. Forums it's a poop, i rather prefer the Forums in the CMS (v22 - v38) (Integrated in the CMS, not that bull poop forum of PRE R63) time. It's just 1000x better. Emoticons, BBCode, and more. This in-client forum has so many bugs and is horrible..

4. Habbo Camera exists since v9... And was so more good. You didn't pay for your photos, only for the camera. Only paid to save the photos in a furniture. I just don't like those selfie-effects.. just useless.

5. RC4 crypto it's useless. You can easily bypass it with the computer power that we have today. Also can easily break it with Packet Loggers. Actually we already did the Habbo Encryption and Habbo Encoding reverse engineering, so it's just useless. Don't matter in this point being old crypto or new crypto, since we can bypass in same way. Obviously in old times those Script Tools was a lot more powerful, but Habbo Script Tools aren't like Hacke Tools from CS:GO, or CrossFire, that makes the game massive, hard, and boring. Habbo script tools was funny and everyone love it, and doesn't bothered your playing time. (Except when someone injects thousand of bots hahahahah)

6. Only Old Habbo has the famous Battleball, Snow Storm and many other games. Not those FURNITURE poop. Those in-room games are only a way to Sulake earn more money.

7. The old public rooms and old lobbies was a lot more better. Pets in old times was loveful also, you need take care of they or they die.

8. Cassinos was sooooo good.

9. I love the old Habbo Pool, was really amazing.

10. Only old Habbo has the great Habbo Exchange, not those poop of today.

11. Was really more faster and using a lot of less memory and CPU.

12. Awesome staff, good events. (Not related to Habbo Version)

13. I prefer thousand of times Old Habbo CMS (Holo-style) rather than this Habbo HTML5 + Angular poop. Why reinvent the Ducking wheel?

14. Trax was amazing. You can create your own songs. Not those CD-Disks poop. Trax was amazing!!!

15. Old Moderation Tools many times better. Automatic ban it's poop. Also i miss bobba.

Conclusion: Old Habbo it's 10000x better than this R63 poop. Good times: v9 - v38

You may not agree but Shockwave or Flash wouldn't never be better then HTML5. I said don't mistake experience with Habbo's client version, that are two different things. I don't really think the UI is responsible for cosiness, but it are the players.

• The reason why forums now are client-side is a moderation thing. Before they where moderated in Sulake all seeing eye so that mean you've another tool that you must handle. Now forums are more easy to moderate faster and that's positive for the work flow of moderators.
  
  But it could be worked better out. The BB codes aren't really user friendly. They better used a graphical tool to insert emoticons and stuff like that.

• Uhm RC4 is just security between client and server. It was never meant to make packetlogging harder to do and it never will when you know the keys you could transfer every packet to server that you will. It's just a security thing and I don't think that's bad? You could compare it with SSL for websites. It has the same purpose

• I don't see 'Helper Tools' as a replacement for moderators. They were they before in v26 but more for giving users guide tours yes but there are always people that wanna help, so why would Habbo don't accept that?

• Automatic alert was just a part to get moderators work more efficiently after the pedophile news. Think again; a pedophile (probably saying he's also underaged, they're sly) approaches an underaged child and asks for PII. The child wouldn't know there's a report function of never thought it's unsafe and Habbo is taking responsibility, is that a bad thing? The thought behind is to automatically send reports to moderators based on what potentially pedophiles are triggering (ex. do you wan't see me in real?).
  
  I don't really think it was Habbo's goal to do as much work with less moderators. The goal is to do the same with the same amount of mods but faster.

• I agree with Trax. It was just a good feature and such a waste it's never brought back. It was just a part of giving users more creativity and it was really cool to create your own trax but if someone is good with HTML5 and Javascript, you could probably create some cool tool to create your own trax tt1:

• I don't agree with moderation tools. The old one was just cool and simple but not really efficient to work with. The call for help system for sure. You didn't had a good overview of calls, they where stacked on a annoying tool and hard to browse in it.
  
  Also issue handling was a bottleneck for mods. You must everytime click to open chatlogs, now in r63b they're integrated in issue handling and that's really good to work fast. Also users can mark inappopriate sentences and mods get highlighted them in chatlogs which is also good.
  
  I'm also not a proponent for automatic banning but it is only used for dealing with bots? I don't have any problem with that. I don't really know how the system is dealing with it and if school networks where users playing with the same network have problems that, but I think they did take that into account. Oh and yes, for a little bit of words you'll get warnings automatically and after it you get a mute for 15 minutes I guess but it are things like 'darkbox' for example that the most users never say.

 

[Emily]

@saamus Just to correct you: camera existed since v3/v4, and you had to buy film in order to make photos. 5 film cost 6 credits. RC4 isn't exactly useless at all. Also even older versions had RC4. Changing the room background wasn't possible but roomdimmer tricks (if you meant) kind of did the job, but still, it's much different.

 

[ovflowd]

Re: The best verion of Habbo

streamhotel, thanks for the big text. Some parts i agree with you. But sadly i can't agree at all. If you see, most of the old people here of RaGEZONE or big developers (not me) likes more the old versions. But yes i agree, that if the Sulake was better now, the R63B will be something greater also.
Glaceon thanks for correcting me!

 

[Moogly]

saamus Just to correct you: camera existed since v3/v4, and you had to buy film in order to make photos. 5 film cost 6 credits. RC4 isn't exactly useless at all. Also even older versions had RC4. Changing the room background wasn't possible but roomdimmer tricks (if you meant) kind of did the job, but still, it's much different.

I thought V5 had camera added, do we even have v3 / v4 dcrs? lol coulda been in v3/v4 though. Also room dimmer was added in r21. The Wired was added way before r62 (this is where wired was released officially), Hebbo had found debugging variations of it and implemented them in his hotel in earlier SWF's and I am not sure if even within DCR's could be wrong on that though. Hebbo actually had wired before anyone else lol, including people playing on the official hotels, unless they were beta testing in the hotel. Wired back then had debugging type of features lol.

 

[Emily]

@Moogly Nobody knew (according to Habbox.com) what features were introduced in v5. Also, I remember Thugie released v4 DCRs in the past. And yeah, wired was released in R54, but then was taken away. I remember spending lots of time in the SWF trying to figure out the wired poop.

 

[Boraida]

Moogly Nobody knew (according to Habbox.com) what features were introduced in v5. Also, I remember Thugie released v4 DCRs in the past. And yeah, wired was released in R54, but then was taken away. I remember spending lots of time in the SWF trying to figure out the wired poop.

The camera was added in V3, November 2002.
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[Quackster]

The most recent version of Habbo is my favourite version to be honest, there's far more features than any previous version.

Also with it being flash, it's responsive/resizable for many different resolutions and it's easier to decompile to reverse engineer features and add your own stuff

 

[Emily]

@Boraida Thanks! I only knew it was somewhere before v5. Didn't know the exact version. Quackster Well I agree, altho the whole Habbo feeling is gone IMHO. If only somebody could decompile DCRs, find a way / creates a way to run shockwave on Linux and somebody had time to implement custom features in it...

 

[Taiga]

@Boraida Thanks! I only knew it was somewhere before v5. Didn't know the exact version. @Quackster Well I agree, altho the whole Habbo feeling is gone IMHO. If only somebody could decompile DCRs, find a way / creates a way to run shockwave on Linux and somebody had time to implement custom features in it...

Or someone should export all the shockwave files to newer assets and build a new client in HTML 5. Shockwave is dead.

 

[streamhotel]

Or someone should export all the shockwave files to newer assets and build a new client in HTML 5. Shockwave is dead.

gefliptemens already did something like that in html5 with Jabbo. It's UI looks very neat tt1: I remember there were some problems with chat bubbles that were going in others.

Link to topic: http://forum.ragezone.com/f353/jabbo-v3-1-javascript-habbo-912294/

 

[Emily]

Or someone should export all the shockwave files to newer assets and build a new client in HTML 5. Shockwave is dead.

I agree ONLY and ONLY IF it's secured well and done the EXACT same way (unlike Jabbo which had loads of stuff different if I remember correctly). I wouldn't mind doing this if I wasn't doing a project yet and didn't have exams.

 

[Alito]

V26 the best!! was the best because in this version was the one that most people had online, free games with the joystick, great hotel design, I did not have lag at that time, also it was the version I played