[foxx]

Imho it looks really better on those screens than the original. More.. diablo-like.

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This petition is being made as a way to express the disappointment of us, the Diablo fans, about the way Diablo III artistic direction is being done. There's a long discussion about this matter happening in http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9283 , there's thousands of comments in there so if you have any comment or suggestion feel free to do it there. The main objective of this petition is to show Blizzard that there's a significant number of players that dont agree with the current art style of the game, with this petition we hope to make Blizzard ear our voices, our opinions and our suggestions and we seriously want some changes in the artistic direction of the game so it could be more coherent and familiar with the Diablo universe. It is our opinion that the graphic elements that characterize the Diablo universe are not fully present in this sequel, Diablo universe is made of: - Gothic and obscure scenarios, cryptic, dark and shadowy dungeons - Graphically realistic world with realistic, dirty and muddy textures - Realistic armory and weaponry without over-sized and exaggerated proportions like big shoulder guards - A macabre, dark and realistic art style - Light radius, as all of you can remember, Diablo dungeons were characterized by the combination of a light radius system with shadows, everything that resides outside of the character vision sight is shadowed. What we got in Diablo III: - Cartoon'ish art direction, obviously influenced by the Warcraft universe, Diablo isnt Warcraft. - Hand made, pastel looking textures with bold lines, defined contours, smooth colors and clean shapes. - Dungeons with a blue/green environment lighting, technique used in cartoons to depict a dark, creepy and scary feeling but once again, this is Diablo, a mature game, dungeons should have a dark aura with the occasional lights from candles, just like we got in the previews Diablo's. - Character models defined by cartoon characteristics like over-sized and exaggerated parts, vivid colors and unrealistic elements, almost directly taken away from World of Warcraft and pasted to Diablo. - Outside scenarios with vivid colors, beautiful forests with colorful vegetation, shinny and beautiful waterfalls where even rainbows take place. - Cartoon'ish and unrealistic weaponry and armory, over-sized and stylish armors, over-sized weapons, items that look pasted directly from World of Warcraft. - Blocky, cartoon'ish graphic elements like big, over-sized fire braziers in dungeons, heavily influenced by the World of Warcraft art style, over-sized and cartoon'ish scenario decorations like smiling statues, Warcraft styled architecture and decorations. What we want: - A darker, gothic, cryptic and creepier environment. - A more realistic artistic direction, more independent from the Warcraft universe art direction. - Darker dungeons without a blue/green environment, Diablo dungeons are dark and shadowy. - The return of the light radius / shadow system from Diablo 1 and 2, a concept modified picture made by me roughly shows and suggests how the shadow system should work on Diablo 3: http://i31.tinypic.com/2zta5o7.jpg - Slightly less colorful and less vivid outside scenarios, they are too heavily influenced by the World of Warcraft ones. - Darker and less colorful landscapes, Tristam never was colorful and beautiful: here's how it looked in Diablo 1 (before the evil was released across the lands): http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5194/tristram2jh.jpg - And most importantly: An independent and renewed artistic direction, not a recycled art direction taken from the Warcraft world, Diablo never was meant to be as cartoon'ish as Warcraft, they shall have independent and distinct styles, this isnt happening in Diablo 3, at first sight it looks like a remake of World of Warcraft, graphically and artistically speaking. - Example of the heavy influence from World of Warcraft that we dont think it fits the Diablo universe: http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/679...8035157dw4.jpg and http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/_ima.../ss9-hires.jpg Common arguments: Q: The game is still under development, it's on pre alpha stage, we only saw the first act, much can change. A: True, the game is still under development but the artistic direction isnt since it's one of the first steps in the development of a game, until you have a fully developed artistic direction and concept you cant easily move on with the development of the game, the artistic direction will tell the artists (modelers, texture artists, etc) how the game elements shall look and feel. Since this artistic direction is already fully and happily developed (words from Blizzard) this cartoon'ish and colorful style will be present in the whole game. Q: Being less cartoon'ish and more realistic would make the game heavier on computers A: False, there's a lot of techniques like bump mapping that help developers give a realistic look to textures, any recent graphic card with less than 8 years support bump mapping, there's a lot more techniques that can help giving that realistic look, being 3D doesnt mean it should look cartoon'ish. Q: Diablo 3 happens 20 years after Diablo 2, the world is peaceful and the evil is gone, that's why the scenarios are colorful and vivid. A: That doesnt mean forgotten dungeons should be clean and shinny, looking like a team of house keeping maidens spent hours there cleaning and making everything clean and shinny, without any trace of dirt, dungeons are supposed to be creepy and scary. Diablo 1 Tristam also looked evil and scary before the evil was unleashed, check this picture of Diablo 1 Tristam and compare it to Diablo 3 Tristam: http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5194/tristram2jh.jpg find the differences. And lastly here's a few concept pictures of how fans want Diablo 3 to be, they might be inaccurate and exaggerated but remember, they're just concept pictures, suggestions of how the game could look, Blizzard can find a balanced term: The light radius from Diablo 2 in Diablo 3: http://i31.tinypic.com/2zta5o7.jpg Environment suggestions: http://i32.tinypic.com/2zqr9yx.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/2jexp1x.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/vep6ix.jpg http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...e/Diablo32.jpg http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...e/Diablo31.jpg http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1...2122wu5oq6.jpg http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7807/itshouldrh5.jpg http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?i...arcraftzs3.jpg http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6...ooklikevx5.jpg What we ask Blizzard is to find a way of pleasing the fans of the Diablo universe by giving us a true sequel to Diablo 2 that is graphically coherent with the Diablo universe it belongs to. Thanks

sauce: http://www.petitiononline.com/d3art/petition.html

[omerta]

just turn off HDR and apply 8x AA...should get something similar

[Hublos]

Hm, I dont know I personally want Diablo 3 to come out then Ill judge ut because I dont think Blizzard will change there graphics and all just for a couple thousand you'll need a million before they'll do something about it.

[exclamatio]

i think it looks great as it is

[Gabrieth]

I think that it's just an option.
Looks as simple as a glow effect that makes the difference.

[foxx]

Originally Posted by Exclamatio

i think it looks great as it is

It is great, but darkish it's even better :P

[kip0130]

Originally Posted by omerta

just turn off HDR and apply 8x AA...should get something similar

and calibrate your monitor

[omen]

i reckon procedural texturing is advanced enough for the ame to have as many shades as your hear desires without any crazy developer overhead.

but since developers love to develop new things in an old or aging manner - wow will win - the fan base numbers a proof that people want more vivid colours.

[Gabrieth]

It is true that vivid colors make it more enjoyable to play longer hours.
Well we will need to play to see what it give. No use to male a petition before trying it especially because it is useless :P

[papari]

Originally Posted by Exclamatio

i think it looks great as it is

me too

[wounded]

to be honest..that looks plain as crap when they modified it. They are just trying to make it look exactly like D2. It's really time to move on, let it be what it is...not like anyone of us have even played it yet...all we saw was a small gameplay video.

[Rishwin]

blizzard's version looks tonnes better, all these whining babies have done is sharpened and changed the hue... it looks like D2 alright, including the choppy graphics and everything.

[foxx]

What's plain about it? :P It's exactly same just more realistic and diablo like. Neither is bad afterall though. Matter of taste.

[Gabrieth]

Yes an opinion. But why make a petition? I don't see the point.
I just can wait for it to come out. What really matters is the game play more the the graphics but they are better then I expected for both :)

[Triguld]

It's more about the 'gameplay' then the colour....

Let's just w8 1.5 years b4 it comes out, and then start whining. :)

[Mreow]

I completely agree with this. If you're a die hard Diablo fan, you would know Diablo isn't suppose to be colourful and vivid.

[foxx]

(21:37:24) (@foxx) http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3...arcraftzs3.jpg what do you think?
(21:43:03) (@Windcape) what I think? that the author of those images weren't at the convention in Paris
(21:43:52) (@Windcape) besides, he did nothing but put a texture layer on top of the image
(21:46:01) (@Windcape) the thing is, you have to add additional lightning/glow to record a movie to be shown on a large-screen at a convention
(21:46:14) (@Windcape) making it as dark as he suggests, would make it impossible to see any details for the guests (me)

[Mreow]

Hmm.. maybe but were those screenshots taken during the presentation?

[Negata]

That's just silly and to top it off, the "Common arguments" presented are plain humorous.. and not exactly in a good way.

[Liselotte]

yeah these fans is ridiculous

[Tomi war]

hmm i like the darker pics but either way ill still play an be happy

[Gabrieth]

I say if your not happy don't play.

[KyleEnos]

I think it's fine how it is.

They're asking for D3 to look more 'mature'. It's a game... a game about spells and mythical beasts. The 'cartoony' look gives it an almost homely appeal. It's attractive, it's easy on the eyes. Doesn't look like something ripped from the Resident Evil series.

If you want something mature, go play Resident Evil or Tiger Woods Golf.

[Claes]

I found some of those too.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5000/diablo2kc7.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8951/diapoohty7.jpg

Btw, I've already signed that petition. I was number 4xxx.

[LightWarrior]

It looks awesome as it is! why do you want to change it? You know its the NEXT generation of gaming...