Monster's Group Code

[shreysri]

Didnt wanted to create a new thread, but can someone help me with finding the monster group code. I've been searching in Mon.ull but unable to located a specific group like 0 or 17 or something else.

I've been researching with different monsters which has unique magic skills and good attack. But they are invisible. Read the thread for checking mon.ull, but unable to find the info.

Below is a snapshot of the file, where could the group code be?

In the above image, we have two monster Forn Khailash & Arr Khailash.

Regards,
Shrey

 

[Chaitanya]

I am not sure that I might be right.

But.
Using a3ullconv convert MON.ull to MON.bin

Convert it to MON.txt [Using tools available on forums]

Then open it in Notepad.
U'll see 1st column for Map Number. & The 2nd Column digits are the Monster Group codes.
That means Temoz Group Code given 1. Means Creeps from Temoz,
i.e., Memora , Lessy , Epuloa, etc etc are part of Group 1.

I think So like this.
Coz I read a post where the one who posted mentioned group code of monster & I matched them.
I found that The digits from 2nd column are seems to be monster group code..

 

[kajemajin]

To modify two files
MON.ULL MC.ULL
The map looks a monster


Type of use
You can get more understanding of the characters

 

[shreysri]

Ok, here is what I did.
I changed :
MON.ULL >>> MON.BIN
MON.BIN >>> MON.TXT

I opened MON.TXT and below is what i saw.

1st Value = Monster NPC Code
2nd Value = Monster Name
3rd Value = I assume group code

> Forn & Arr Khailash had 600 if front of it I changed it to 0.

I then hexed the MON.BIN and changed the value 58 00 (600) to 00 00, then converted it back to MON.ULL.

So I changed the value for two Bosses.
1) Forn Khailash
2) Rubella

> I placed Form Khailash in wolfwrech and R1. It was there on both maps.
> I placed Rubella to both the places. She was not der. :


Phew! All tired now, gota sleep. See if you guys can throw some more light on it.


@Kajemajin - Sure, will on those two files tomorrow and check

Regards,
Shrey

 

[Chaitanya]

Extremely Sorry dude.
I Was out of my mind while posting :


I wanted to say MC.ull

Coz The respective map monster are stored in that map's monster group code.
Don't get confuse.
Convert MC.ull to txt not MON. and do what I said in my previous post !

Sorry again !

 

[shreysri]

I made the MC.ULL to Text. But here is the challange. The first value is map code, second value is group code. Below is a snapshot.

For e.g. Nevia has a group code of 17. If I want to add Rubellu in Nevia or for instance Khainen in Nevia.

What has to be done, how to aling monsters to a particular group.

I've check MC, there is no place to add a monster code.

I've checked MON in txt as well as bin (hexed), there is no Boss (Forn Khailash, Pham) who got 17 as a value anywhere.

How to aling a monster to a group?

Regards,
Shrey

P.S If you see the screenie on earlier post where I've shown MON.bin hexed. Forn Khailash dont have a Value of 17 (Nevia). i.e. Value of 11 (If we hex it).

 

[Chaitanya]

Yea
I also dnt knw it yet.
I told u to just recognize group code.
I also yet dnt know how to change particular monster group code :

 

[shreysri]

Hmm ... tried to copy the values from Forn Khailash to Kawon (Except the monster code & name) ... the client didn't start, it crashed.

Tried to open the NPC files for the mosnters, but just two lines of Hex data, nothing related to the group code.:

Will keep on working, if I find out will update the same.

Thanks for all the help man.

Regards,
Shrey

 

[kajemajin]

Exact Monster Group Code

Red mark
MC.ULL
Monster Group

Blue mark
MON.ULL
Monster Group

Need to modify two files are the same

Difficult to express in English needs work, but please understand

 

[Chaitanya]

SO If We changes the monster group code of a particular monster to any other,
SO from that time, he will not be the part of his previous monster group.
Right ?

 

[shreysri]

Findings: Below are some results i got after changing group code in MON.ull

1) I tried to change the group code for Kwaon which is in real tower to - 00 or 01
Result : Game crash OR Unable to enter the map gets stuck on loading

2) Changed the group code for Kwaon (NPC ID 500) to 01. Added him to Wolfreck and Temoz n_ndt files.

Result : He was not there.

 

[Mikee]

Well i assume that some monsters cant be placed in other maps...
Because if u use @NPCSUMMON u can spawn Khainen in maps (i pressume) but u cant spawn renias or other god bosses...
And 1 more thng the mosnters in NC hav a different NPC id.
Forn khallihash of selvarb has npc id - 400
Forn khallihash of NC has npc id - 104

 

[shreysri]

@Mikee - I agree about the NPC ID, I've checked both & I am trying to use Kwaon.

Khainen, Graybone, Khailash, Pham are among few monsters and boss you can spawn using the NPCSUMMON command. But I think that should not restrict me using other bosses like Ranias or Rubellu in different maps.

and thats what we are discussing, how to make other monsters/ bosses which are in specific maps to be used in different maps.

 

[lovbudy]

@Mikee a fake renias spwns through the Monster card or something named like that Y dont u try editing the creep in Nevia *.dt and *_ndt (where * stands for the map number)file might u get some help

 

[shreysri]

@lovbudy - We cant place monster/Boss to maps where they dont belong. For that we have to change the group code. So it wont matter if we change info in *.n_ndt files.

 

[Mikee]

Well if u still have doubt i thnk i can clear it out for u

 

[ash.blackdevil]

Sorry for bumping old topic, But u cant just use the same monster code for summoning the monster in that map. If u stuy the NPC files carefully you'll find that there are 2 files for same monster. 1 monster is locked in that map and other can be spawned in maps consider the case of khanien in the s4 map its code is 98 which is the locked monster and can only be summoned in that map, whereas you can use NPCSUMMON/415 to summon Khanien in other map so u need to add this monster to the monster group code and to that map.
Sorry for the long description.

 

[Chaitanya]

This is what We want, How to add a monster in other monster group ?

---------- Post added at 11:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 AM ----------

I got the answer, How to change monster group code..
Will do a experiment and let know :

 

[ash.blackdevil]

Plz tell me how did u decode the .ull files too.
When i decoded it it didn't come out right it was in some other language.

 

[Mikee]

Do u hav Prot bhai's tools