A New Sports Section

[Rishwin]

For those saying yes, don't be an ignorant idiot and blindly answer, i shall restate a point brought up by omerta - If there is a sports section, there will have to be a subsection for EVERY country. If this doesn't happen, the section will be a COMPLETE disaster zone filled with chaos. Even having more mods on that section wont help.

If you do not have the intellect high enough to understand why a subsection for every country is needed, let me give you this little hint: Every country plays different sports and has different sports stars. Unless Dan is prepared to have about 3 mods just for 1 section that will most probably go dead just like it did in the past, i don't see this happening AT ALL.

On a side note, since when does Dan or any of the S.Mods for that matter care what the members think? Threads like this are always made in the staff section are they not? Unless someone up there already has the answer but is just curious about what people think.

[Omer]

For those saying yes, don't be an ignorant idiot and blindly answer, i shall restate a point brought up by omerta - If there is a sports section, there will have to be a subsection for EVERY country. If this doesn't happen, the section will be a COMPLETE disaster zone filled with chaos. Even having more mods on that section wont help.

If you do not have the intellect high enough to understand why a subsection for every country is needed, let me give you this little hint: Every country plays different sports and has different sports stars. Unless Dan is prepared to have about 3 mods just for 1 section that will most probably go dead just like it did in the past, i don't see this happening AT ALL.

On a side note, since when does Dan or any of the S.Mods for that matter care what the members think? Threads like this are always made in the staff section are they not? Unless someone up there already has the answer but is just curious about what people think.

No. I just asked dan and he told me to make a pool here.

2.) How bout tags like [UK] [BRAZIL] Etc?

[Rishwin]

No. I just asked dan and he told me to make a pool here.

2.) How bout tags like [UK] [BRAZIL] Etc?

... and have just 1 thread for every country? You can do that in this section.

You have to ask yourself: "What do we want posted in the Sports section?"

Sporting results?
Sports related news?
Discussions about sports events/players?

Now imagine all those threads for EVERY country. Your looking at a hell of alot of threads. If i wanted to make a thread about something, i have to go back how many pages just to see if it was posted yesterday? And not to mention if somebody forgets to tag their thread, how will you know what they are talking about?

BUT, if every country had its own section, no need for messy tags, all the discussions "under one roof", everyone from each area chatting together about their national sports - wouldn't that be great?

However if your thinking "Hey hold on, we wont have THAT much activity!", then you tell me, how can you justify that its gonna have enough activity for its own section but not enough for subsections? Is it really worth creating then?

[thefalling]

What would be the repercussions if it were to fail ( Not be really active )?


I dont understand how it would hurt to try. I mean the music section isnt very active not including the "What Are You Listening To Now" thread, but still Its an important section.

[Omer]

What would be the repercussions if it were to fail ( Not be really active )?


I dont understand how it would hurt to try. I mean the music section isnt very active not including the "What Are You Listening To Now" thread, but still Its an important section.

True True,


But Rish. I ment that you have like let's say country one beat country 2 you would have [UK] Uk beat england FINALLY! (i know that sounds gay because england = uk :p)

[Rishwin]

What would be the repercussions if it were to fail ( Not be really active )?


I dont understand how it would hurt to try. I mean the music section isnt very active not including the "What Are You Listening To Now" thread, but still Its an important section.

Read moar.

There already WAS a sports section, but it was REMOVED due to lack of activity. They DO NOT want to make it allover again just to have it be deleted AGAIN because of no activity.

And compared to ALOT of sections, the Music Lounge is extremely active.

[Omer]

Read moar.

There already WAS a sports section, but it was REMOVED due to lack of activity. They DO NOT want to make it allover again just to have it be deleted AGAIN because of no activity.

And compared to ALOT of sections, the Music Lounge is extremely active.

Not really not extremely but active compared to others...

[Rishwin]

But Rish. I ment that you have like let's say country one beat country 2 you would have [UK] Uk beat england FINALLY! (i know that sounds gay because england = uk :p)

Yea, so, in what sport? Golf? Tennis? Hacky sack?

Each country has its own national sport. Australia has AFL. Will you see someone form the UK talking about AFL? NO.

Do we play soccer here in Australia? Yes. Is it major? NO. Is it ever on the news? NO. Do we care about it? Not unless it the world cup.

See what i mean?

There can be a MAIN section where world serious sports can be talked about, but thats only once in every 4 years? Good luck with that.

Not really not extremely but active compared to others...

I said compared to others. There are sections that have like 1 post every 3 weeks.

[Omer]

Yea, so, in what sport? Golf? Tennis? Hacky sack?

Each country has its own national sport. Australia has AFL. Will you see someone form the UK talking about AFL? NO.

Do we play soccer here in Australia? Yes. Is it major? NO. Is it ever on the news? NO. Do we care about it? Not unless it the world cup.

See what i mean?

There can be a MAIN section where world serious sports can be talked about, but thats only once in every 4 years? Good luck with that.

How bout hockey for example : Russia, Canada, America, Switzerland. then football which is major in america and there's alot of americans here, and soccer is still big..

[Rishwin]

How bout hockey for example : Russia, Canada, America, Switzerland. then football which is major in america and there's alot of americans here, and soccer is still big..

You are talking about world series sports. Like France VS UK, or USA VS Sweden. As I explained, those are at most frequent once a year, and up to every 4 years for the world cup/Olympics. If you want it to be active AT ALL you need to have discussions about LOCAL sporting events. And all this is impossible if there is just one general section.

[thefalling]

Read moar.

There already WAS a sports section, but it was REMOVED due to lack of activity. They DO NOT want to make it allover again just to have it be deleted AGAIN because of no activity.

And compared to ALOT of sections, the Music Lounge is extremely active.

Im aware that there was a sports section before........


So the only repercussion would be taking the time to create the section? I mean if theres a mod who will donate his time create the section, is there really much to lose?

[NoOxygen]

TV/Movie section first.

[Rishwin]

Im aware there was a sports section before........

What would be the repercussions if it were to fail ( Not be really active )?


I dont understand how it would hurt to try. I mean the music section isnt very active not including the "What Are You Listening To Now" thread, but still Its an important section.

So you knew that, yet you felt it was necessary to make a post still asking what would happen if it was not active (like its not obvious?), and you think it "wouldn't hurt to try". Doesn't a previous failed attempt mean that they already "tried"?

Its not as simple as just adding another section. You need to have competent moderators who can monitor and keep the posts in line. Maybe new moderators are required for that section. If not, current moderators will have to concentrate less on their current sections so they can pay more attention to the new section. On top of that, old threads relevant to the section will usually be moved there to give it a kick start. People will be required to post sports results ect on a regular basis, and then theres the trouble of making sure the posts aren't just spam. Rules specific for that section have to be established, and then theres the "breaking in" period where the mods need to get used to the new rules.

[thefalling]

So you knew that, yet you felt it was necessary to make a post still asking what would happen if it was not active (like its not obvious?), and you think it "wouldn't hurt to try". Doesn't a previous failed attempt mean that they already "tried"?

Its not as simple as just adding another section. You need to have competent moderators who can monitor and keep the posts in line. Maybe new moderators are required for that section. If not, current moderators will have to concentrate less on their current sections so they can pay more attention to the new section. On top of that, old threads relevant to the section will usually be moved there to give it a kick start. People will be required to post sports results ect on a regular basis, and then theres the trouble of making sure the posts aren't just spam. Rules specific for that section have to be established, and then theres the "breaking in" period where the mods need to get used to the new rules.

Yes they already tried, yes im aware of that; i meant "try again".

Note when I use a '?', it means i have no clue.
Well you answered my question indirectly. I suppose the negatives outweigh the positives in that sense. I didnt really realize adding a new section was soo intricate.

Sometimes prior events don't repeat themselves though.

[xeLJoYo]

There's plenty of wordwide sports that *could* be discussed, from autosport to curling >.>

[Ionic & Schizo]

No.

[Konrow]

I seriosuly doubt its going to work. I know it was done last time because there was sports threads actually being posted and discussed so it seemed like a great idea to have a section for them. Unfortunately it died rather quickly, if it ever was really alive. I'd personally love the idea but from past experience and from lack of people actually posting threads on sports i'm wondering wether or not its gonna be active.

[theRAGE]

I'd say TV/Movie section before Sports.

True that.

We need a section to discuss Heroes and other shows... like Smallville D:

[Kaoii]

if that were true the rz game section woulda been dismissed

It's lacking activity right now for one reason - just about every project announced is still under development. When projects are released and maintained, activity jumps dramatically. The sections are there because over the next few years, we have plans for RZgames to open many new doors for RageZone, and the sections there today are setting the roots.

A sports section will be no more active this time than it was last time. If you think about the majority of people who actually post here, I can say with certainty that most of them at the end of the day could care less if its added or not.

[Flameingskull]

only voted yes if you'd keep it updated with sports from everywhere rather than just the US sports tables ;)

bu then you'd have to have some sort of team to work on it.

but that's just imo.

[Omer]

only voted yes if you'd keep it updated with sports from everywhere rather than just the US sports tables ;)

bu then you'd have to have some sort of team to work on it.

but that's just imo.

I can do that it's not that hard really :p

[Flameingskull]

it could be very difficult considering the amoount of different leaguues/sports for each country.

tbh the idea is good but if it happened either it would die and be left alone or it would just be a complete mess.

it's pretty much a lose lose situation.

[exclamatio]

link me to 10 active threads about sports within this year

[sutsurikeru]

True that.

We need a section to discuss Heroes and other shows... like Smallville D:

and prison break!

[exclamatio]

True that.

We need a section to discuss Heroes and other shows... like Smallville D:

put those in outerworld