[ALARMING]we dont really exsist

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Originally Posted by Kaoii

theory - a statement that can be tested

this isn't a theory at all ;P

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These are ideas based on theoretical physics. Theoretical physics uses mathematical modelling and takes an abstract view on things. Basically, they try to explain how something would (or already does) occur using the fundamental laws of physics which we have already established and found to be true in this universe. Many theories in physics are yet to be tested, basically because we don't know how to do so yet, or we don't have the technology/funding to create the enviornment needed for certain things to be experimented with.

So don't go typing words into dictionaries thinking that the definition is absolute in all forms. :)

What I was saying about the sims and something I would love to try is:

Building simple AI where the computer characters can communicate and store information based on their ineraction, then on the next encounter pull the previous happening and choose what to do(more of a random choice, but then as thing sprogress it will learn whats a good choice throught what it stores). Us humans couldn't talk in the beginning we were basic AI but we learned and evolved. What if you could make computer characters do that? (No but theres limits with computers...) Is there not limits with the human brain? I would love to see this pulled off..imagine seeing computers learning off of each other and evolving in their little computer world?

Honestly I don't understand how brain works nor how I would pull off thinking functions like that so I can't attempt it myself.

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Originally Posted by NickAKAVexus

What I was saying about the sims and something I would love to try is:

Building simple AI where the computer characters can communicate and store information based on their ineraction, then on the next encounter pull the previous happening and choose what to do(more of a random choice, but then as thing sprogress it will learn whats a good choice throught what it stores). Us humans couldn't talk in the beginning we were basic AI but we learned and evolved. What if you could make computer characters do that? (No but theres limits with computers...) Is there not limits with the human brain? I would love to see this pulled off..imagine seeing computers learning off of each other and evolving in their little computer world?

Honestly I don't understand how brain works nor how I would pull off thinking functions like that so I can't attempt it myself.

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there are things like that going on, but it requires tremendous computing power to make real AI.
As an example of learning AI, in the MMORPG Eternal Lands there's an experiment going on with 'Ants'; A huge group of bots with 1 leader(the ant queen) that scouts around all the maps and just does everything and stores how it went etc.

Omfg, this is the biggest piece of **** i've ever seen :tp:
anyways, I could type alot of things down but all will conclude the same of what Kaoii said b4 so ... ;)

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Originally Posted by JcxZero

Can you prove we actually exist? Just because we can touch/feel/smell/see things, it still doesn't mean we actually exist.
Can you prove we aren't from some type of program or simulation?
Why are we so complex?
Why does everything in the universe has to be so perfect that it lets us able to live on Earth?
Why is the sun just the right temperature so we don't boil nor freeze?
Why is Earth just the right distance away from the sun?
Why does Earth have oxygen and nitrogen as the majority of gas, when the the rest of our Galaxy (or as far as we can research) have hydrogen and helium?
Do you have scientific proof for if we exist, why we exist if we do, why everything is so perfect that we are able to exist?
How do you know there is Heaven and Hell?

Your post is so full of flaws and you are just trying to disagree with things you can't prove wrong.

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there is a whole bunch of crapload from ur post. Why? Want to know if life is real? Take a knife and stab yourself in your hand. What kind of computer program gives you such a sharp pain that you cannot reheal that hand (if you stab it deap enough) If life were a sim world, the creators could just give you another hand. If you are christian (or whatever religion that falls under the christian way) life makes so much sense on why everything is just perfect for life. Omg dude, life wasnt meant for a sim game. there is so much complexity in the world no one could put it into a computer. Do you believe everything you hear about such crap? I bet you are going to ask if there is a God, why in the hell would he come down just to prove it to us that he exist? Live by faith, not by sight. ...............So this whole computer shit is wrong lol. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by neceron

there is a whole bunch of crapload from ur post. Why? Want to know if life is real? Take a knife and stab yourself in your hand. What kind of computer program gives you such a sharp pain that you cannot reheal that hand (if you stab it deap enough) If life were a sim world, the creators could just give you another hand. If you are christian (or whatever religion that falls under the christian way) life makes so much sense on why everything is just perfect for life. Omg dude, life wasnt meant for a sim game. there is so much complexity in the world no one could put it into a computer. Do you believe everything you hear about such crap? I bet you are going to ask if there is a God, why in the hell would he come down just to prove it to us that he exist? Live by faith, not by sight. ...............So this whole computer shit is wrong lol. :thumbup:

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Get a brain, and maybe learn some better english and punctuation, please. First you start off with, "there is a whole bunch of crapload from ur post", but your whole post only countered one or two of my questions, yet I posted about 10 questions.

You still don't get why we can't really prove we exist, nor prove we don't exist, do you? Just because we feel pain and can't heal, it doesn't mean we exist. Some higher being might have made it so we feel what it wants us to feel. For everything to be so perfect to let us able to live, is hardly a coincidence. I refuse to believe that some random bang out of nowhere made life possible. The possibility of making everything so perfect in the universe randomly is about 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%. Actually, it's even way less than that.

Where the hell did I ever mention computers? Our minds can only comprehend so much. Just because I mentioned a program or simulation it doesn't have to be computer, we don't know what is really out there.

Please, when you try to counter someone's post, at least attempt to counter half his/her arguements.

I simply don't give a shit about you being christian, either, if you think it makes so much sense on why everything in life is so perfect, then please englighten me.

lol........first of all i dont give a crack about my grammer becuase i am typing away. Another thing, if you believe in it by all means enlighten me. If you choose to follow that theory by all means, im not stopping you. I dont care if the simpliest thing in the world is so complex for a mind like yours. By all means go ahead and flame me cause your insignificant and brainless. Go ahead......... this theory is crap. I garuntee if you ask anybody from around the world about this theory, almost 80 percent of them will say.....WTF?

i posted my opinions and under no means was it meant to anger nobody.

Take religion out of the way and explain to me how you can test this theory?

I Live Therefore I Exist.

Simple. It's Good Enough For Me.

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Originally Posted by DonTonberry

I Live Therefore I Exist.

Simple. It's Good Enough For Me.

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omg good point lol :wolfwood: you deserve a cookie.

As Rene Descartes said during the Age of Knowledge/Reasoning, "I think, therefore I am"

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Originally Posted by JcxZero

The possibility of making everything so perfect in the universe randomly is about 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%. Actually, it's even way less than that.

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Exactly, the only being who could make something so perfect is God, and I don't care what religion you are, just wait till you die...you'll see :)

well it states that music is everything, so im all for it lol :)

it states music = matter, and matter = everything.

so MUSIC = EVERYTHING!!!

OMG SO IM THE MOD OF EVERYTHING!!!

psh. whats a super mod, im a fucking music mod, i moderate everything.

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Originally Posted by Jcx Guy

Can you prove we actually exist? Just because we can touch/feel/smell/see things, it still doesn't mean we actually exist.
Can you prove we aren't from some type of program or simulation?
Why are we so complex?
Why does everything in the universe has to be so perfect that it lets us able to live on Earth?
Why is the sun just the right temperature so we don't boil nor freeze?
Why is Earth just the right distance away from the sun?
Why does Earth have oxygen and nitrogen as the majority of gas, when the the rest of our Galaxy (or as far as we can research) have hydrogen and helium?
Do you have scientific proof for if we exist, why we exist if we do, why everything is so perfect that we are able to exist?
How do you know there is Heaven and Hell?

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How can you prove we can't exist?
Can you prove we are from some type of program or simulation?

I'm going to answer all of your questions because I have the best answers for each.

Why does everything in the universe seem so perfect? How could we possibly survive on Earth with these conditions? The answer is quite simple. Perfection is an illusion created by society. You're probably thinking "what the hell Kaoii, your nuts!" I'll explain, because I can't handle this nonsense any longer.

Imagine that there is more than just our universe.. there are other universes (which in fact there are). Every universe is different in some way. Some ways so insignifigant you can't even tell (one atom in the entire universe may move a different way than from the next), other ways huge (our galaxy may not even exist). In one universe, the big bang never happened, it's still waiting to happen. In another, the British killed the Americans and won the revolutionary war. In the next, the Ku Klux Klan is composed of black people running around and killing white people in the "persuit of freedom."

There are an infinite amount of universes.

So, back to perfection. Our universe is no more perfect than the next, because with all of the possibilities, there actually is no perfection.. it's just an illusion created by society and our own mind. In an infinite amount of universes, physics may be backwards. There are an infinite amount of universes that have life on earth, there are infinite amount of universes that do not. Here are some reasons why:

1.] Physics, as I stated, may be completely backwards. For example, gravity on Earth may pull upwards. Anything can happen in a parallel universe.

2.] Earth may have been "born" too far from the sun, or too close.

Therefore, you can think of it like this. Our universe was engineered to have us exist. This is not some computer program. Electrons from servers do not overlap.

I think that answers the majority of your questions.. and as for the big bang, I know someone had to have mentioned it. How do you know there was only one big bang? Modern science says that there were multiple explosions because of the combustability of the components made up by the quarks.

I'm sorry, but you can't beat me on this one =/
edit: And please, for the love of god, don't make me pull out the long mathematical equations to thoroughly go over everything.

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Originally Posted by neceron

lol........first of all i dont give a crack about my grammer becuase i am typing away. Another thing, if you believe in it by all means enlighten me. If you choose to follow that theory by all means, im not stopping you. I dont care if the simpliest thing in the world is so complex for a mind like yours. By all means go ahead and flame me cause your insignificant and brainless. Go ahead......... this theory is crap. I garuntee if you ask anybody from around the world about this theory, almost 80 percent of them will say.....WTF?

i posted my opinions and under no means was it meant to anger nobody.

Take religion out of the way and explain to me how you can test this theory?

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You don't really get it do you. I am not taking either side.

Why do you think I put question marks after every question? It's because I think it could be answerable (if that is a word). You just disagreed with me for the sake of disagreeing, adding no intelligence to this thread.

Where did you even see me say "I agree, this theory is a very likely possibility!", or even "I don't agree, this theory is shit.". If you gave a half decent intelligent counter like Kaoii, I wouldn't counter any further, if it made sense. There is simply no real right or wrong on this subject, we can't absolutely prove something we believe on this subject. If someone thinks otherwise, then I won't try to flame them, but if someone who thinks otherwise but flames someone elses theory mindlessly, then I will flame them back. (Which I did)

I just asked questions that are the opposite of whatever nonsense crap you posted without proof. I never said I was right, I never said you were right. If you can prove someone's post wrong, then by all means go ahead. But don't go on bursting out like some pre-pubscent teen who needs anger management.

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Originally Posted by Kaoii

Earth may have been "born" too far from the sun, or too close.

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Scientists have proven that it is impossible for the Earth anywhere else than where it is right now; the slightest change would drastically change everything. Yes this doens't really have anything to your post, but infinite or not, if there were other universes (which there are) there is no Earth in them.

That better not be true.. I suck at The Sims. Social services always take away my baby and I end up just using the freeall code.

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Originally Posted by The_Gatekeeper_

Scientists have proven that it is impossible for the Earth anywhere else than where it is right now; the slightest change would drastically change everything. Yes this doens't really have anything to your post, but infinite or not, if there were other universes (which there are) there is no Earth in them.

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I was referring to Earth in other dimensions.

I'll agree with some posts and disagree with some others, but i can't be assed to quote so here goes my personal beliefs.
I don't give two shits if we are real or not, people are too stuck up on the things words mean and what they represent.Existance, reality, perfection, galaxy, earth, civilization, all have some meanings, when they hardly cover what we really wanna talk about.My belief, is that the human mind is, and will always be too small to understand and realize how everything started/constracted, etc.Physics, science, chemisty, all that are but a tiny specticle of nothingness in front of the greatness that exist outside our room, our house, our city, our planet, our galaxy, even our dimension.Demons, angels, some guy we are in his hard drive, aliens with ten heads and no hands, all could exist, but does it make a diference? Hardly, at least not to me.People say "think outside the box".Some people think too much outside the box.

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Originally Posted by Silveron

I'll agree with some posts and disagree with some others, but i can't be assed to quote so here goes my personal beliefs.
I don't give two shits if we are real or not, people are too stuck up on the things words mean and what they represent.Existance, reality, perfection, galaxy, earth, civilization, all have some meanings, when they hardly cover what we really wanna talk about.My belief, is that the human mind is, and will always be too small to understand and realize how everything started/constracted, etc.Physics, science, chemisty, all that are but a tiny specticle of nothingness in front of the greatness that exist outside our room, our house, our city, our planet, our galaxy, even our dimension.Demons, angels, some guy we are in his hard drive, aliens with ten heads and no hands, all could exist, but does it make a diference? Hardly, at least not to me.People say "think outside the box".Some people think too much outside the box.

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Amen to that, why such lazy fu*k like me would be bothered? =]

We are real to us, doesn't matter how you look at it, we are real because that is how we have preceived ourselves as that is all we really know. "I think, therefore I am"

But I tend to believe these sort of things, I alwayz have this thought in my mind that someone or something is watching us and in some wayz controlling us because life is so coodinated so well, "fine-tuning".

I saw someone mention something about how life is so complex that it isn't possible to make our life as a program or something to that degree. I like to say, how do you know. We only know from experience that we can't make another world like this because it would simply take to long and too much resources to do but if we was a program made by "another person" maybe they can, we simply don't know, I ain't saying one way or another.

It really depends on how you think of it, you touch something it's real, end of story. or is it Oo Our minds are not designed to understand everything, so there will be no answer to wether we are one universe or one universe controlled by another world. We simply can't answer that question "yet".

btw I know I make no sense but hey, I don't care O.O