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I'm sorry, what?Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
So what you're saying is I could call the police and tell them my friend killed a man, they can then go and arrest him and throw him in a jail for 20 years even though there is not one piece of evidence to prove he is a murderer, but it doesn't matter because I said so. Do you realise how stupid that sounds?
Well realistically that is the foundation of all religions, isn't it? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Junkers
No, you're wrong. How are you wrong? Don't have to prove it, I say it's wrong, therefore it must be .Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
Edit: This could prove an interesting debate. Want it moved to the debate section? I'm cool with it here but meh
Oh, sorry, my friend told me it was so i thought it must have been true :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkers
//Edit: What exactly could be an interesting debate? The entire philosophy behind people accepting things as fact even without a shroud of proof has been debated many many times in the form of religious debates. We've had way too many of those and IMO it would just turn into one of them eventually, regardless of the actual subject :P
The principle of the Illuminati and all that nonsense. Just a thought though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
I never said anything about taking over the world. Please get your facts straight thank you :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
Also not everything needs evidence. This is your problem, you guys want evidence for everything, Alot of the things don't have evidence and its true. this is how your not going to go anywhere in life. You need an open mind. Not everything in this world needs evidence.
Is there evidence that your mom gave birth to you? What if you were adopted and she lied? .... now go ask her for a picture of her making you -.-
There doesn't have to be evidence for something to be real.
What does tupac being dead have to prove anything? Tupac isn't a fake rapper, he's real. Why would someone rap about something like illuminati if they didn't exist? Why do a lot of people know that illuminati's exist if they didn't? Its obviously something thats not made up.
Get a fucking blood test and there's your evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
But there is evidence to our parents conceiving us - the doctors and nurses who were in the room at the time, our birth certificates say who our birth parents are, not our legal guardians/adopting parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
Okay that was a bad example then, But still not everything needs evidence. Illuminati's are very real. Deny it all you want. Go to USA and start making public speeches about going against the illuminati's and tell me if you don't get killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkers
Alright, I accept you believe not everything needs evidence. Now please explain why not everything has to be proven.
Do i believe that the Illuminati and the Free Masons exist as underground associations? Yes.
Do i believe that they have high-powered members worldwide? Yes.
Do i believe that they gather in someones basement and worship the Devil every Friday night? No.
It is not known exactly what they do in these clubs, so instead people start making up conspiracy theories. Next thing you know, for no reason whatsoever it starts being accepted as fact. No, it's not. It is not fact, it is simply an idea someone once had, probably while they were drunk.
"Hey dude, wouldn't it be funny if the Illuminati worshiped the Devil and plotted ways to take over the world?".
"Haha oh yea man, that would be the shit, i wanna join them too!"
"Hell yea, fuck it lets go sign up right now!"
*passes out in the gutter*
Not everything has to be proven because not everything can be proven. Human's do not have super powers or something to know everything thats going on in this world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkers
Weather illuminati's are devil worshippers or not most of the members found in the illuminati were devil worshipers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
Example: Jay Z, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna and yeah.
There are devil worshippers in this world that aren't illuminati. There might be some illuminati's who don't worship the devil but a lot of them do.
No evidence to back this theory up but its true. So don't believe me if you don't want to, not like i can go into your head and change ur thoughts. Not everyone believes in the illuminati anyways. (well all the people that aren't open minded and need evidence for everything?)
kk no more replying for a while, gotta go study for my exam. Leave any messages you want ill be be back later to reply :)
Yea, it's called the video of my birth and it's called DNA matching. If i wanted, i could take a DNA test tomorrow and by Monday have a piece of paper which matches my parents as being my biological parents. It can be proven. Your fucking stupid bedtime stories can not be proven. Ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
You have down syndrome and were dropped on your head as a child.
According to you, this is true because i said it and i don't need any evidence at all to back it up. What do you have to say about that?
Go listen to Avenged Sevenfold - Little piece of heaven. It's also a great song. It's about killing your partner and fucking their corpse. That must be true also, I'm sure that's what they did as inspiration for the song. Your entire logic is that "it's in a song, it must be true!". It's stupid.
Did you just say this?Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
I have an idea.
Join whatever secret organization you like.
Free Mansons or Illuminati.
(Do what the guy did in The Lost Symbol)
Have a secret video camera pinned into your hair during the rural for new members or whatever.
Learn all you can.
Upload video online.
Prove us wrong.
Until then can someone please close this thread or just delete it?
Not my point. The song isn't the only thing im looking at. But w/e believe w/e u want. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
Like i said the birth thing was a bad example.
No my mom said this?Quote:
Originally Posted by azntrung
I will once again repeat part of my post so you can respond to it instead of dodging it:Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
You have down syndrome and were dropped on your head as a child.
According to you, this is true because i said it and i don't need any evidence at all to back it up. What do you have to say about that?
Also, my ass shoots laser beams and when i jerk off $100 bills squirt out of my dick. According to you, this is also true since i need no evidence at all to prove myself. Now, disprove my statement.
Is this a joke? No, I'm absolutely serious. It has to be. No one who is a member of the human race could possibly be this moronic. Or perhaps he is not human. Perhaps he's french..
Indubitably.
You're only repeating yourself. You're not actually explaining as to why we don't need hard evidence to prove something. It's one thing to be told something and believe it's true because you trust the person, but it's another to be told some rather ludicrous claim by a randomer on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
Wait wait wait.
I have proof with this other song.
Written by me.
Its not a secret about how much i skeeted
in ya preachers mouth when he was against broaching a topic
about Muhammad.
So I said Killuminati la de dadi.
Killuminati la de dadi.
Killuminati la de dadi.
Damn I wish I had some real proof to you
and not make it look like a spoof to you.
Shoot, I must look like a goof to you
But I swear I seen em worshiping the Devil
in America. There they were, minding their own business
when I peeped through the window and saw em doing this shit.
Killuminati la de dadi.
Killuminati la de dadi.
I'm not popular but if I was, this song would be a Illuminati conspirators theme song.
But my point is, this is all pointless.
Oh man, Usher will be hunting you down soon for a record deal. First it was Justin Bieber, now it's just a matter of time before he finds your talent!
"Not everything has to be proven by facts..." haha, that was excellent. Look up the definition of the word "proven." For a conspiracy to be proven, it has to be supported by factual evidence. Most of the evidence I found on Google were from published literature that were written by self-proclaimed Illuminati... so I would imagine they would know a thing or two more about the society than you would. You said I have to "get out more to know this stuff.." but where would I go? You say yourself they're so secret, how would I find out anything about them? By researching, like I'm doing, that's how. I'm pretty sure JFK, MLK, or anyone else that you accuse of being against the Illuminati were actually against the Illuminati. Why were they killed? Because of their policies and ideology. MLK wanted to stop all black segregation. You didn't think that pissed a couple white people off? JFK was a major protester against the war in Vietnam, and was reconstructing the CIA and the FRS. You didn't think that pissed a couple people off? Out of all the reasons why a famous influential force in America, who had the ability to possibly change the world, would be killed... you chose an underground society of devil worshipers, as you proclaim? Ha-fucking-ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
Since the Illuminati is such an underground society, and nothing on the internet/books is true, how do you know so much about it? Are you part of the Illuminati? Are you a devil worshiper? WITCHCRAFT WITCHCRAFT! You don't know a spec more than I do on this whole conspiracy. I guarantee none of those celebrities are Illuminatis or devil worshipers. Except Lady Gaga, she might do some devil praisin' in her free time. And if they are Illuminatis, they are ones that have become enlightened, like the TRUE LATIN DEFINITION. Jay-Z does that with his hand because of his record label Roc-A-Fella, named after John D. Rockefeller, a highly educated, wealthy, and influential businessman. Or you could be right, Jay-Z and past government officials could be freemasons. True freemasons.
The idea that freemasons worship the devil is based on a faulty premise. Albert Pike states on page 321 of, Morals and Dogma;
You may automatically read this and think Lucifer is the devil, which in the long run is not true. The bible and other religious works have been twisted and altered so much that Lucifer has become an a.k.a. for Satan. Lucifer is the Latin word for "light-bearer," which is used for the name of the planet Venus. In English, "Lucifer" generally refers to Satan, although the name is not applied to him in the New Testament. The use of the name "Lucifer" is a reference to a fallen angel stems from an interpretation of Isaiah 14:3–20, a passage that speaks of a particular Babylonian King, to whom it gives the title of "Day Star", "Morning Star,", as fallen or destined to fall from the heavens or sky. In 2 Peter 1:19 and elsewhere, the same Latin word Lucifer is used to refer to the Morning Star, with no relation to the devil.Quote:
Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!
If you believe in something hard enough, it shall become true.
Yes, you're right, we want evidence. Do you know why we want evidence of your claims? Because until you provide evidence that shows all the celebrities you named stating that they are Illuminatis and they worship the devil, your claims are WRONG. You can't claim something is true if you don't provide evidence, because for something to be true, you need factual evidence. It's simple. And don't reply back with "not everything needs evidence ;)" because YES, IF YOU'RE GOING TO CLAIM SOMETHING TRUE, YOU NEED E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E. Tupac being dead proves that he was involved in gang wars and crimes, and that when you have gang wars, there's a lot of people that don't like you. That's what it proves. Hell, I don't know why he rapped about it. Probably because he had no idea of what an Illuminati was. It's a conspiracy, kid, that's how. Just like the 9/11 conspiracy, and the Pearl Harbor conspiracy, and every other conspiracy that exists. It's an alternative to what the majority believes.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
Okay, humans don't have powers to know everything in this world. Then how do you know so much about the Illuminatis? I repeat, how?Quote:
Originally Posted by xMike1x
I won't even bother with such an ignorant contradiction. Oh, and you spelled whether wrong. Stop saying that we're not open-minded, because you have that definition tragically incorrect too. Being open-minded means to accept new things, not to believe in some horseshit idea such as the Illuminatis being devil worshipers.Quote:
Weather illuminati's are devil worshippers or not most of the members found in the illuminati were devil worshipers.
Good luck on your exam, by the looks of it, you definitely won't get any big bonuses on logic and grammar.
Tak a nak you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
I gts to wrk wit her?!/1 Justin Bieber? sweat!!!
Next thing you know, people are going to say Justin Bieber is in it to.
If you don't believe not fkin bother to read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin