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please before saying any think about our Mohammed صلى الله عليه وسلم see this web site the judge our prophet Supporting Prophet Muhammad website
Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood calls for milion-man march because of anti-islam movie
hmm yeah i also googled your prophet and found a site based on his career as a prophet
Prophetic Career of Muhammad 3
i did find this part quite interesting sound like something the catholic priests try to hide all the time
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Muhammad had a convenient “revelation” that told him to marry Abu Bakr’s daughter, ‘Aisha. What makes it worse is the fact that she was only 6 years old when she wed Muhammad, and Muhammad consummated that marriage when ‘Aisha was only 9! This was recorded in many places in the Hadith (emphasis mine):
“Narrated ‘Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).”
-excerpt from Sahih Bukhari 7.88
I dont know if this is really true but still wierd to say the least sorry if offends anyone peace to what you believe in.
Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood calls for milion-man march because of anti-islam movie
there's only one thing that's certain, and that's that he was no prophet, there are no such things as prophets, only mentally ill people
he was most likely just ordinary man, until some stupid bug bite him and he started hearing and seeing things
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foxx
there's only one thing that's certain, and that's that he was no prophet, there are no such things as prophets, only mentally ill people
he was most likely just ordinary man, until some stupid bug bite him and he started hearing and seeing things
Or.. Magic Mushrooms were first found out about.
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foxx
there's only one thing that's certain, and that's that he was no prophet, there are no such things as prophets, only mentally ill people
he was most likely just ordinary man, until some stupid bug bite him and he started hearing and seeing things
Nah, religion tends to be founded upon people wanting to gain power. Normally within slave (or poor) communities which have different philosophy's to the rich. That is generally why the rich and powerful tend to try to destroy the religion, as it is taking power away from them.
It's the same with cults of today in America. They generally aren't mentally ill (though they often do pray on them!).
Master–slave morality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You can see quite clearly from that pretty much all religions are made for poor people.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKuJ9ujMQBQ
Was watching The Dictator yesterday, it's so funny.
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Hejula
5 star for relevance there, bro.
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Robert
Nah, religion tends to be founded upon people wanting to gain power. Normally within slave (or poor) communities which have different philosophy's to the rich. That is generally why the rich and powerful tend to try to destroy the religion, as it is taking power away from them.
It's the same with cults of today in America. They generally aren't mentally ill (though they often do pray on them!).
Master–slave morality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You can see quite clearly from that pretty much all religions are made for poor people.
This is true in most religions from what I can see. It's like Christianity, Jesus was supposedly from a poor family that used to be treated as second-class citizens, and then everything change once God gave Mary baby Jesus, in the virginal conception and then later the virginal birth (otherwise known as the immaculate conception). The same with the disciples/apostles, the vast majority of them as they were chose were second-class citizens.
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GohanSSJ
The difference is that children are told at a later age that he is not real, not to mention that the result of santa claus is presents, not a religion that dictates how you should live.
At a young age, kids will believe anything, Santa is a shining example of that, I mean really, flying through the air with reindeers? That's how gullible kids are.
In the end kids don't chose to believe, they don't believe they are convinced by facts, but because their parents tell them it's true. If parents told kids that some alien entity is the ruler of the universe and would one day come back to earth to take those who got rid of all their evil spirits inside, then you would call that bs, and right you would be, yet while it's much more obvious that scientology is BS, how can you prove that the Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc is not like that? There was no world wide communication back then, there wasn't even national communication back then, there is absolutely no way to check if anything written was true. Yet if you tell a child that it's true, they will believe it. That's the problem with teaching kids about it, they will blindly accept it, even if it's a lie.
Still not a child abuse, because when they grow up they can search for the truth by themselves and then to decide to believe or not, so your argument is invalid, another thing, parents don't guide, Allah is The One Who guides.
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Hejula
"Islam isn't an aggressive religion, it's a religion about mercy and peace"
Ok... How peaceful is cutting someones hands off for stealing? Or forcing 12 year-old girls to marry old men? Or killing people in response to a film? Or blowing up buildings? Or blowing up underground trains?
You are living in a fantasy world thinking Islam is a peaceful religion.
To cut someone hands for stealing there are rules, i.e, Islam doesn't allow to a child hands to be cut.
Forcing girls to marry? where is that? from your bible?
Killing INNOCENT people in a response to a film, is wrong, some Muslims, just don't get it.
Blowing up trains? what? ...
You are living in a fantasy for thinking like that about Islam.
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Robert
Then your prophet Solomon was an idiot for thinking Ants were speaking to him.
No you're the idiot for denying the fact, that Ants talk, funny how you changed the subject.
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Robert
I didn't watch all the videos, I watched the first one, and could instantly disprove it. Hardly speechless, lol.
Saw that one coming, really, what a poor excuse, watch them and then come prove me wrong.
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Robert
I'm no where near a professor, I simply did a course on natural and artifical intelligence as part of my degree. That module involved ant intelligence, swarm intelligence. I don't need google to talk about this as I've actually got an education on the subject. Granted I'm not a biologist, and I don't study ants, but I know for a fact they don't speak, and the sounds they make would be meaningless, if not very simple instructions.
Ok, now that's funny, LOL, scientists have ALREADY proven that Ants talk, your argument is invalid.
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Robert
They simply don't have brains like ours. Look at the size of them dude. Do you really think a brain that size could communicate on our level? Common sense could tell you this.
Who said that they talk like us? they talk in their own language, Brain size doesn't mean anything.
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Robert
The only reason I picked up on this subject is because you are cheapening swarm intelligence by saying ants think like we do. If you could see the things a swarm intelligence can do, it's stuff even humans would have trouble to do. Because they have evolved to do it.
Still invalid, read above, give me some facts.
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Robert
Speaking to ants is just fundamentally flawed on so many levels it's no wonder why scientists get pissed off by religious questioning. I'd be shocked if ants even have the capability to hear at the frequencies of the human voice, let alone be able to interpret the sound, let alone understand the language. Don't you understand how impossible this is? Or are you just going by blind faith, book says he did so he must have?
Yes thank you for proving my point, my prophet talked to Ants by a miracle from Allah, not only ants, all the animals, even Jinns, as well as the wind which Allah placed it under his order, you can read about him, if you're interested.
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Robert
But yeah, you totally proved the Quran wrong by bringing the subject up, which anyone with any common sense should be able to realise. I don't see how the book has proved me wrong when we know ants can't talk. Seriously, go and talk to one if you don't believe me...
I Proved you wrong like 4-5 times, read above.
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Robert
Child abuse can be mental abuse, not just physical. Believing in religion has been shown to have effects on the brain, and I just don't think those effects should be enforced on a childs developing brain. What a waste it would be if the next einstein was born to a very religious family...
Who is smarter me or you?
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Robert
As for the Muslim and Islam comment, the people of a religion are a direct result of the religion and it's leaders. You are the sum of your past experiences (with a little DNA thrown in!) If the people of a religion cause trouble, the blame falls entirely onto that religion, especially if they leaders support, or don't actively try to contain their subjects. After all would people be reacting like this over the film if the religion didn't tell them to? (I hope the religion is telling them to, or this situation is even worse!)
No, it shouldn't work out like that, because if some Muslims make mistakes, that doesn't mean Islam is to blame, or that Islam allows it, some Muslims, just do it without any knowledge, after all Humans are not perfect, don't make me bring up all the terror that U.S did, yet, I don't blame all the Americans.
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Robert
Also you are totally being a hypocrite now. You can't say a few extremists actions don't count, when the entire protest is about what could in fact be a single American's action in dubbing the film.
I didn't say it doesn't count, it's just you blame all the Muslims, get your facts straight already.
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Robert
Nah, religion tends to be founded upon people wanting to gain power. Normally within slave (or poor) communities which have different philosophy's to the rich. That is generally why the rich and powerful tend to try to destroy the religion, as it is taking power away from them.
It's the same with cults of today in America. They generally aren't mentally ill (though they often do pray on them!).
Master–slave morality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You can see quite clearly from that pretty much all religions are made for poor people.
one does not simply turn into prophet hearing things in his fourties though, were he someone clever enough to do this, he probably would have started earlier..
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ezpzzz
To cut someone hands for stealing there are rules, i.e, Islam doesn't allow to a child hands to be cut.
Forcing girls to marry? where is that? from your bible?
Killing INNOCENT people in a response to a film, is wrong, some Muslims, just don't get it.
Blowing up trains? what? ...
You are living in a fantasy for thinking like that about Islam.
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This I'm sure is not a one off. They're dirty bastards.
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Ought to be a rule on these forums to keep people's religious crap off them, such as the shit being spewed out by this nut Epeenzzz or w/e that retard's name is. Cause this twat's frankly preaching here for his half-baked religion.
"parents don't guide, Allah is The One Who guides." --- seriously, just fucking get lost...
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foxx
one does not simply turn into prophet hearing things in his fourties though, were he someone clever enough to do this, he probably would have started earlier..
A person going senile with age? ;)
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Daedius
Ought to be a rule on these forums to keep people's religious crap off them, such as the shit being spewed out by this nut Epeenzzz or w/e that retard's name is. Cause this twat's frankly preaching here for his half-baked religion.
"parents don't guide, Allah is The One Who guides." --- seriously, just fucking get lost...
A person going senile with age? ;)
If I were still a super, this thread would have been gone a long time ago, alas I'm not! But it does mean I can argue without being a representative of RZ, which has made RZ a lot more fun for me on a personal level!
But yeah, I've totally put that guy on my ignore list. I give up listening to him, he just doesn't listen at all so what's the point? It's just boring getting the same response over and over. He's clearly not one of the clever religious people you sometimes get which can actually use science in a positive manner with religion. Stick to what you know when you are going to argue with someone, and this guy seriously doesn't have a clue. All he does is throw random videos of other people (who also clearly don't know what they are talking about) and expects that to prove his point, which hopefully all of RZ can see through.
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He actually even stopped doing that. Now he just quotes you and says "I'm right you're wrong" with no counter argument. Usually just a variation of those words. Faith at that level is a scary thing, but think about it like this. If I am a religious leader, ezpzz is the perfect type of nut I need under my control. I can tell him to do anything in the name of God, and he is just so retarded that he will do it.
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Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood calls for milion-man march because of anti-islam movie
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Calas
Oh please, we mock jews all the time. Anti-semitism is more murdering jews, not taking the piss out of them anyway.
