[General] War or a Crime? - A New Hitler is born..

[hero322]

I will try to make this as clear and as clean as possible,

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This thread will be to talk about the WAR CRIME that is happening in Gaza, believe it or not, current numbers of "Children + Women + Old People" who have been slaughter come to over ****000 people already.

2 Schools Strike: 40+ Little Children Killed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr6CRB9FbKw

Notice that the school is marked under UN, in other words its a shelter, yet israel ignores that, funny how world leaders are ignoring this.

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Isreal Broke the Agreement ofo Cease-Fire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPScbzS83vQ

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Some huge article on how the world are fighting with Peaceful assemblies, trying to get some word out that this is just a crime and should be stopped. When sadley our world leaders are sitting back and watching.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-gaza30-2008dec30,0,3053809.story

[MentaL]

[Wilsongb10]

I got a question, Whos the new hitler then?? are you trying to refer to Israel?

I really hate how both sides keep killing each other and i really hope this does not need the US to take action. My friends also told me that this may lead to the beginning of WW3. I really hope USA wont join this because they will get into lots of trouble, while other countries will join too. I really dont want a draft or something

[c4cadvisor]

predicted already. This is just a prelude to world war 3, which was also predicted to change our lives. I'd say even he doesnt know who the new hitler is, because he doesnt know who really is behind these attacks, only that isreal is attacking without mercy.

[Omer]

WTF, We broke the cease fire, they were firing rockets at us way before we were even thinking about retalating

[Wilsongb10]

The United States and Israel have signed an agreement to prevent Hamas from rearming following any ceasefire in the Gaza strip. US Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice said the agreement would contribute towards a "durable ceasefire", after signing the document with her Israeli counterpart Tzipi Livni in Washington. Hope is growing that a ceasefire is within reach, as the conflict enters its third week. Israeli government spokesperson Mark Regev said it was possible that cabinet ministers could agree to end the Israeli offensive this weekend, pending the outcome of negotiations in Egypt. Israel is seeking to end Hamas rocket attacks and to gain guarantees to prevent the militant Palestinian group from rearming. Hamas is offering a year-long ceasefire, open to renewal, if Israel withdraws its forces from Gaza within a week and guarantees to keep border crossings open.

Im guessing USA has signed a agreement so once again they save the day again.

[Youngy]

First, let's put this in perspective...6-8 israeli soldiers are dead, thousands and thousands of Palestinians are dead...war or slaughter?

[Unleashed Hell]

WTF, We broke the cease fire, they were firing rockets at us way before we were even thinking about retalating

Forget it bro, they will never understand what it's like until they will be in the same place we've been for 8 years now...

First, let's put this in perspective...6-8 israeli soldiers are dead, thousands and thousands of Palestinians are dead...war or slaughter?

Actually, we didn't even hit the 1000 on the Palestinian casualties yet... and don't forget that the Hamas has killed countless civilians as wel with their rocketsl...



Israel didn't "ignore" the fact that this was a UN school - the problem is that the terrorists are based among the civilian populations, they are actually using them as human shields... I saw a video of a Hamas terrorist running away from sniper fire, and grabbing a kid on the way, and dragging him along with him - so that the kid will serve him as human shield against the snipers fire.

Really guys, it's all easier said than done. And I believe, that no one has the right to tell us what to do regarding our national safety issues, because you just have absolutely no clue about what's going on here, and what was going on here before...

Btw, thread opener:

You said you want to keep it clean, but by saying that Israel is a "new Hitler", you already made a mess.

[hero322]

Forget it bro, they will never understand what it's like until they will be in the same place we've been for 8 years now...



Actually, we didn't even hit the 1000 on the Palestinian casualties yet... and don't forget that the Hamas has killed countless civilians as wel with their rocketsl...



Israel didn't "ignore" the fact that this was a UN school - the problem is that the terrorists are based among the civilian populations, they are actually using them as human shields... I saw a video of a Hamas terrorist running away from sniper fire, and grabbing a kid on the way, and dragging him along with him - so that the kid will serve him as human shield against the snipers fire.

Really guys, it's all easier said than done. And I believe, that no one has the right to tell us what to do regarding our national safety issues, because you just have absolutely no clue about what's going on here, and what was going on here before...

Btw, thread opener:

You said you want to keep it clean, but by saying that Israel is a "new Hitler", you already made a mess.

oh dude, seriously..you wanna defend your country, then do so, but with common sense and some brains.

Do not come and give me bull shit saying Yeah we have the fucking right to kill off 40 children to destroy hamas.... you want hamas? go kill them, just leave the fucking 2million civilians alone.

hitler fried the jewish race, and now the jewish are frying there country reason: "we wanna kill hamas" .... bull shit


sorry but all im saying is, dont take your anger on people who are living without power, food, water or shelter... fight your damn hamas.. i could care less if you kill all of hamas in 1 bomb... just leave the damn nation safe.. you cannot give any reason in the world to bomb civilians to fight your enemy... this isnt ww1.. in this age we have laws and rules... follow them and stop ignoring the bs

[Nuklear]

Whoa! Calm down there cowboy... I agree with Unleashed Hell. Don't believe everything the media says. I know what Israel is like and what kind of situation they're in.

Also, how can they kill all the enemies and not innocent bystanders? It's not like they're going to search and destroy terrorists which is insanely hard and almost impossible to kill because once they know a soldier or a squad is coming, they'll just set up positions to finish off the soldiers.

Bombing them throws them off by surprise and wipes out many terrorists without a warning. Of course, innocent lives has to be paid.

[hero322]

Whoa! Calm down there cowboy... I agree with Unleashed Hell. Don't believe everything the media says. I know what Israel is like and what kind of situation they're in.

Also, how can they kill all the enemies and not innocent bystanders? It's not like they're going to search and destroy terrorists which is insanely hard and almost impossible to kill because once they know a soldier or a squad is coming, they'll just set up positions to finish off the soldiers.

Bombing them throws them off by surprise and wipes out many terrorists without a warning. Of course, innocent lives has to be paid.

yeah... why dont we just bomb the world and maybe we will kill 1 or 2 terrorists..

your theory also is horrible.. as you live in a secure nation... what your telling me now is that you think its fine to wipe out a country to kill 10 - 20 terrorists..

unless your calling everyone in the world a terrorist? then its different...

[Nuklear]

Remember once those terrorists are stopped, less lives will be lost in the meanwhile due to cease of rockets. What would you do if bunch of terrorists kept killing your civilians?

[hero322]

Remember once those terrorists are stopped, less lives will be lost in the meanwhile due to cease of rockets. What would you do if bunch of terrorists kept killing your civilians?

nuky... killing more civilians doesnt solve anything bro... why do normal people have to suffer because bunsh of pusy terrorists are hiding between them..

its just not fair... im just really upset over the killing of children and women.... what did they do... innocent elementary kids...

[LightWarrior]

I don't understand.
I have chained a dog to a tree in my back yard. Yet no matter how much I beat it, starve it or shorten its chain, it seems to get more crazy and aggressive.

[Nuklear]

I don't understand.
I have chained a dog to a tree in my back yard. Yet no matter how much I beat it, starve it or shorten its chain, it seems to get more crazy and aggressive.

Good point. So what do we do?

I know what they did to the school was wrong. They could've done another way to get to the terrorists.

[hero322]

I don't understand.
I have chained a dog to a tree in my back yard. Yet no matter how much I beat it, starve it or shorten its chain, it seems to get more crazy and aggressive.

wow nice... very nice example, thanks.

Good point. So what do we do?

I know what they did to the school was wrong. They could've done another way to get to the terrorists.

Thank you

[DaCheat]

First off Israel didn't break the cease fire...

Secondly there will always be casualties in war. Like it or not, it happens.

War is war. It's ugly, and nobody likes it.

Was it a horrible act? Yes.
But was it a crime? No.

[Hammad]

What I don't get, is why are Hamas referred to as terrorists, when it was Israel that started all this. Hamas were, and still are, the elected government of the Gaza Strip, Israel is driving them out for their own benefits, they're trying to fight back, yet they're referred to as terrorists just because they're muslims? What about the Israeli militants that are causing so much chaos over nothing? Are they heroes to you?

[Deva]

First off Israel didn't break the cease fire...

Secondly there will always be casualties in war. Like it or not, it happens.

War is war. It's ugly, and nobody likes it.

Was it a horrible act? Yes.
But was it a crime? No.

Agreed and to the people saying they're casulties; If your country was having a war right now would you:
a) Risk your own civilians lives just because the enemy is hidden within the civilians of the oppositions country? So to protect their lives you have to risk/endanger some of your own lives.
b) Bomb their civilians to take the enemy out and put a higher chance of your civilians lives being protected? You sacrifice their lives to protect your people's lives.

I know what I would do. I agree with what Unleashed and Omer are saying. Let's just hope the USA don't stick their nose into this and make it worse.

[troublemaker1111]

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[exclamatio]

quick invade iran

[Deva]

c) attempt to resolve the issue peacefully

Yeah, that would be the ideal thing and what most people are probably hoping for. But if they've broke a ceasefire, can you honestly see them resolving this anytime soon? :-/

[Unleashed Hell]

oh dude, seriously..you wanna defend your country, then do so, but with common sense and some brains.

Do not come and give me bull shit saying Yeah we have the fucking right to kill off 40 children to destroy hamas.... you want hamas? go kill them, just leave the fucking 2million civilians alone.

hitler fried the jewish race, and now the jewish are frying there country reason: "we wanna kill hamas" .... bull shit

Haha, you amuse me, mate. "I'm gonna try to keep it as clean as possible"... and yet you were the 1st to make a mess and get infraction-banned... interesting :)

[Nuklear]

c) attempt to resolve the issue peacefully

They want Israel off the map. Yeah, I'm sure they will work it out. :D

[availer]

Haha.


The creation of a bomb that detonates when someone is innoculated with anti-biotics? That's incredibly humantarian. Are you kidding me? This is the holocaust all over against. profane war crimes are being committed.
http://www.vtjp.org/report/Israels_New_Weapons.php


You know what? Let these videos of what has happened speak for them selves.


http://cc.aljazeera.net/


1300+ Palestinians Dead.

13 Israelies.


You got to be kidding me.

[troublemaker1111]

This is the holocaust all over against.

No it isn't.