looks like i misread u said ur mum knew a fat person
makes no diference
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looks like i misread u said ur mum knew a fat person
makes no diference
I'm being realistic, people who have always been obese can't go to a normal weight, and let me tell you something about that, that's ok, it's much more important that they realise that and accept then to listen to some shithead like ex who just says everyone can go to a normal weight and that after you followed everything by the book and you still haven't lost enough that you feel that you are shit because you can't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terron
Listening to him about obesity is like listening to a man talking about periods.
Makes all the difference because she had been fighting it for like 10 years, with the help of personal trainers specialized in obesity and trust me she did follow it all exactly, her parents were quite rich who paid for it all, and trust me, those people know a shitload more then you do, like i said all you know about is about people who eat themself fat, but those are easy, they just need to get of their lazy ass and do something, that's all.Quote:
makes no diference
To be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exclamatio
oh, and if i were u, i would stop the flaming, or have another account ready to logon.. :P
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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
rofl
man if they were so smart why did she die?
thats fucking harsh of me to say but top and bottom of it is if they knew what they were doing and she wasnt afraid to put the work in then she could have dropped the weight
they may know more than i do but fuck what i know works, just because somebody knows something doesnt make it right
also years ago people thought certain training methods were fine, nowadays we understand that these methods are bad for the body and are deemed out of date
same with everything else just because what these specialsts think they know works or they think like you do nothing can work
does not for a second mean there is no way
because there is.
your just mad because im right and you're wrong :tp:
ner ner, ner, ner ner
She spended 10 fucking years on eating right and exercising, it consumed her life, everything was about loosing weight, so after nothing really working she tried something risky as this was to much for her, that's why she died, but you wouldn't know anything about that, like i said many times, you don't know shit.Quote:
man if they were so smart why did she die?
thats fucking harsh of me to say but top and bottom of it is if they knew what they were doing and she wasnt afraid to put the work in then she could have dropped the weight
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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
and im telling you there are things she didnt try
there are things she didnt do
simple things that are usually missed out by the "experts" are things like the PH value of ur blood and the corrosponding PH value of ur diet.
It is almost never looked at and virtually no1 thinks to check it out
you can have great workouts really go for it and u can eat lots of commonly thought healthy foods but if ur ph value is off then ur body makes more fat to buffer that level
more so with the acid than with the alkaline but still works both ways
things like with the exercise, il bet because of her weight she was always working aerobically where she would need to be working anaerobically
things like this always get overlooked
one of the most popular workouts in the modern world today ia aerobics, which is just that, working aerobically which will not get u past any decent level of fitness and after a short while actually makes it harder to lose weight
shit like this is so simple yet always gets missed out, im willing to bet somewhere along the line something important was missed out, because it must have
just like your brain seems to be missing
Locust... The village mob have spoken. NEed i say no more. I quickly scan read your po... Opinion not post and well. It's your opnion but. Let's say they do suck balls did you watch? Or maybe it's your secret fantasy? We'll never know.
Have a nice day.
Very nice, except it's all shit, how about i bet that she didn't miss anything, why do you think she got so big in the first place? She ate her whole life healthy, only a person with something seriously wrong with her body would become that big, she was born with it, it's like saying you can make a crippled walk, you're not fucking jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exclamatio
cry me a riverrrrr
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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
lol man your so dumb its making it hard for me to think!
she obviously wasnt eating healthy for her body
if she was she wouldnt have been that size
simple as
i probably could never make a cripple walk, but i know what i can do :tp:
you big twonkie
you saying i dont know anything about health and nutrition is like me saying you know nothing about staying in wanking all day to tubgirl
Gohan, why do you let things get to you that people over the internet have said? people can say what the fuck they want about my mum in person or on the net and it doesnt bother me, so why let it get to you?
the funny thing is i was only using his mum as an example because i read 1 of his replies as his mum was the fat 1
its funny hes totally uninformed on this, the only thing he knows about the subject is his friends mum died and apparently couldnt lose the weight
when it wasnt that she couldnt it was that she didnt
hes banned for a few days anyway and just for the record wasnt me who banned him ^_^
in this pic u can clearly see me owning gohanQuote:
Originally Posted by theRAGE
My "po?" I wouldn't stretch to say you are a gothic, and you would like to consolidate your opinions with the goths rant, because he tries to make the social label more acceptable. That is pathetic, any self serving person is deserving to die. They are enammered with death, they speak so highly of suicide, so why do they not kill theirselves? They truly arn't, only lost and more confused. Especially more ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetal
Any kid who wants to try and project the situated title in some mirrowed way is trying to prove that he is not as bad that the author makes them out to be. Seeing how you have presented your 'facts' you think yourself intelligent, but you have an incredibly shoddy sentence structure, grammar, and you have some of the worst 'engrish' I have ever seen.
As for a "village mob," no one really addressed the point I was trying to make. I don't think anyone understood that I was responding to a goths rant that I had found on the internet, no matter how flamoyantly I tried to make that known. I have a rebut at the end titled "mine." Would it not be apparent that I understand the situation, and his stance by the riposte?
Oh, I call self projection for the last bit. Your sass is not appreciated, so I have come to the conclusion that you are a homosexual, or a "bisexual" that the goths often indentify themselves as.
"Have a nice day." <-- Pet peeve
Don't do that, if you want to hurt me say "fuck you.(even though I don't find that damaging)" Just don't try to say, "friend," or, "buddy." I am not your friend or buddy, I am attacking you and your life style. As for have a nice day, just say, "I hope you live the rest of your days miserable." Be honest, not an anal retentive twat.
Lock It Already...
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Originally Posted by Exclamatio
on gnoess not the emo :O I like emu >.>
maybe soonQuote:
Originally Posted by Nik-C
this is our big fight thread now xD
i like most emo music tooQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Gatekeeper_
the lyrics can be a bit gay but it can sound cool as
its the people who do my head in always depressed
whoops ;) forgot to add an s to emu >.>
Well I guess my school is full of goths, but they're not so hardcore as what I've seen from other places (like Target :( what the hell :P) but emos are a big problem, they wear clothes that have retarded phrases on them, usually wear shit-small jackets and like the next day it's cameo shorts with spiked hair with blonde patches where the spikes are? Then they wear suits? What the hell....the only thing I wear is plain shirts or nintendo/videogame related crap on it, and I'm not trying to grab any unnecissary attention (but shrooms on a shirt....meh maybe one teacher >.>)
Serious, it's like a physical schizo at times, and sometimes it's like the wear the exact same thing the next, as if washing clothes meant anything (when you can see the ketchup stain on the shorts from like 10 feet away three days straight O_o;......:backs away:
Well then there are the "rebel emu goths" (the ones who I guess are emu but too damn retarded to make friends only cause they think it's a cool philosophy to look apethetic and then end up making friends with people like them? High school drop-out maybe >.>, who drees in black but follow about the same pattern)
(oh I'm saying emu's cause I don't really like emo people that much. Music, no; people; too stuck up to care to talk to non-emo people. emu just adds what little humor I can think of :P, even if it's pretty childish)
[edit] OH Exclamatio I'm talking about the animal the emu :P
haha man im tired and you are confusing me xD
emus are great!
*says "yes" Napolean Dynamite style* xD
my bad I didn't realize emu could have meant emo music >.>
I myself listen to metal bands, with a dash of Opeth
(when I was in middle school rap was in so I listen to that what the hell was I thinking O_o; )
...there I made some edits so it may make a tad bit more...sense ah nvm not really worth reading twice :P
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Originally Posted by The_Gatekeeper_
nah the emo emu thing was my bad i just read it and figured it was a typo lol
i listen to everything really
in an eminem phase atm, love the guy
but everynow and then switching back to ye olde slipknot or machine head
This thread makes me cry.
Anyway, I had sex with Napolean.. tbh
GOTHS SUCKS
EMOS SUCK
CHARVAS SUCK
GAY PEOPLE SUCK
PPL WITH DIFFERENT BELIEFS SUCK
PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT ETHNIC ORIGINS SUCK
fuck shit piss bitch moan.
well i truely belive goths are goths. there okay as long as they keep themselfs to themselfs. just like what we call charvas. charvas = idotic ppl who try to cause trouble and make life hell for everyone.
>.>; you naughty girl :wub:Quote:
Originally Posted by Becky
what i would pay for a tape of that :wub2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Becky
is this the spinoff of the world's longest thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonate_wings
I am not trying to say don't be what you want to be, but being unproductive is not the way to do it. Goths sit and mope, they do not give back to society but more influence to confused people; thats why there are so many of them. When someone is depressed, especially in the pubescence of life, they are easily influenced by a group that 'accepts them' through related methods. A part human nature is to be accepted, and so they are trying to be accepted. I would like to sit down with a goth and have a true conversation of acceptance with one, however, they are pig-headed. If one group claims ignorance over them all Goths, and underlined sects, are the most. They feed so strongly into adolescence that they are incapable of rational logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morphix
haha thats very accurateQuote:
Originally Posted by locust
you gotta remember though not all goths can be put into the same frame, id say the 1s that you are talking about and that annoy me so are the 1s tinkering on emo.
the cunts.
Fuck shit ass bitch cunt shoob-a-dee do da
i 2nd that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nik-C
i 3rd that
meh they just think conforming with society rocks ass so they act like they're all depressed and rebellious because looking like a terd and smelling like one will solve all their problems
I hate my life! Boo frickity Hoo! ::cuts self::
lol.. regardless of waht he is emo or just a punk ass.. this is a complete stupid topic.. honestly what kind of inconsiderate asshole would post this kind of grade-a shit... its completely tearing forums apart.. everything about this post goes back to music and culture.. which are obviously not suppose to be tampered with.. the entire forum is different.. seems only thing we can agree with is mu is gay.. i think the only forum on this entire forum that keeps this place together is the online gaming section forum.. cause thats where everyone complains about how gay mu is.. this topic reminds me of the threads that go around politics.. all they are good for is expressing yourself.. and they go past the line when the term gay is used.. leave politics and cultures to the professionals.. honestly guys
Labels are for cans... FOR CANS!
completely agree..
Does anyone see the point? Is this not obvious enough? Goths are fucking society in the ass(emo is a sect of goth by the way). The whole next generation is so messed up.. god damnit, no one here.. fuck it.Quote:
Originally Posted by syonyde
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Originally Posted by locust
look all around even the people who dont fit into the goth label are fucked
most of the worlds future generation in the west are messed up
im sorry to say u that, but its late in the night and im falling asleep so i cudnot read it.
anyway, i think goths suck as well.
Well i'm gonna be different, I LOVE GOTHS WOOOOOO OMG YES THEY R LEET :d:d
Fucking too right.
Nope
0_o this thread is still open?
Looks like it :PQuote:
Originally Posted by b1zn4tch
You guys care too much about this :P
nobody should hate a group opf people , because you dont know them all! that is being prejudice, and thats not fair, personally i think alot of goths, do that because they never fitted in with the others, and the new freinds they made, that where a little weird dressed that way, and they did too to fit in, i would rather be frowned upon, than have no freinds, then again i would never do that goth shit :P
Most people hate goths from a mis-education and are told that they suck and to hate them - so they do. how many of you know every goth around? how can you just say 'they suck' when you dont even know them all? i know a few and they are nothing like your describing, its more to do with the music and style of clothing they like rather than the attitude - i know a few goths and emos with a very positive view on life and are generally very happy
hmmm i wonder what "label" i come under...
i like alternative music
t-shirt, pair of jeans and some trainers is what i usually wear
and i dont feel depressed, emo or angry
so what the hell am i? personally i think stereotypes are a load of bollocks, its just angsty kids with problems usually
my £0.02
Capricorn is right; however, there are a few new (the word eludes me; a scientific experiment with an unaccounted element is what).
Anyway, I want the "mis-educated," "the village mob," those who can't punctuate properly, and the kids who can't quote properly to stop responding. Your opinions are omitted here because you are all kissing one guys ass. The ideal opinion is predjudicism(a biased based on a past recreational dealing). I am not being predjudice, this word is used often and wrongly. I would follow under stereo typing, which is often associated with racism. I only follow one group and all its sects, now that we are all on the same page please do proceed.
Anyway, I'm gonna watch "Stewie Griffon, the Untold Story."
Agree. This also happens to be my opinion on music genres - too many of em, why can't we just call it music...? :eh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Capricorn
left out the unimportant things and flaming on one of your posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
i find it quite amusing, yet sad
ex only said that he knows what he's talking about and explained why he does. no ego involved. in fact ex is the last person i would blame for having too big an ego.
on the other hand though, exy, you did go a bit too far with the insulting. no need for that
sorry to see you havent changed gohan. cant believe you're arguing with ex on something he's a goddamned expert in and you still think you know it better because of "this one guy i know over the internet said this" and "this one thing i've read on the internet". if you made up your opinion that red is yellow then you will do everything humanly possible to convince everyone that the colour red is in fact yellow.
i'm sure you'd bring up some googled pictures of something yellow with the name "red.jpg" and make a very valid point by saying "why else would they name it that!!""
my opinion on that subject btw: anyone CAN loose/gain weight
but first they'll have to be willing to :) people with 200 pounds overweight (generally) dont even want to do anything about it (because they would have to give up their eating habbits in order to do so/ because they're happy the way they are/...)
it's all in the mind. if you feel miserable/ down/happy/ extremely happy you will look it.
if you have your mind set on changing you WILL change. you may not get to become a supermodel but dammit you will look better if you really want to :)
P.S plz dont even reply to my post gohan. my intention is not to start arguing with you :) i already know who will "win". or should i say never give up and have the last say/post.
I worked with a guy once that lost a large amount of weight. He came from a big family. He told me one day he just stopped eating so much. I remember he would always go on a rant about people that said they couldn't lose weight, especially if it they claimed it was genetics or whatever.
I personally have no idea, as I have never been fat. Little chubby here and there, but not fat. Time will tell I guess ;)
i've always been average weight, but my freind is over weight, and lil kids call him fatso^^ it doesnt bother him that much? i dont think but he gets pissed off that i eat so much and gain no weight,
i havent even glanced this thread someone summarise for me so i can jump in on convo :tp: cba reading 7 pages
i ussualy read the last 2 pages and pick up from there, becuase a topic always goes off topic no matter what,Quote:
Originally Posted by STEELY
Basically, from the glance ive had its:Quote:
Originally Posted by STEELY
omg goths suck
omg so do charvas/chavs woteva
omg no goths arent, i kno a goth and he is cool
i am a goth and i want to slit my wrists and die OMFFDHFGPOAs
ahahaa lol omg i hate u ppl who always categorize ppl LOLOLoahahab rofl
LOL i hate emo ppl they r freaks
I am my own person, i am too cool to be categorized :D:D:D:D
AHHAHAH FAG GOTHS LOLLROFLA
god your good! i love the OMFFDHFGPOAs can you help me on the longest thread i get lost there :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Morphix
wow tempted to read it now...oh wait id rather use these scissors on my bell endQuote:
Originally Posted by Morphix
your bell end? i dont get it ... wtf is a bell end?Quote:
Originally Posted by STEELY
dont make me go get pics cos i will...
I nearly roffled off my chair, thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEELY
You are just proving more and more how little you know, some people are just born obese, it's genetics you know.Quote:
she obviously wasnt eating healthy for her body
if she was she wouldnt have been that size
It's not because he is talking about my mom, it's because he can't/doesn't read what i say and then makes up some shit.Quote:
Gohan, why do you let things get to you that people over the internet have said? people can say what the fuck they want about my mum in person or on the net and it doesnt bother me, so why let it get to you?
Like i said before, my mom never really tried and therefor it's pointless to discuss anything related to her.Quote:
the funny thing is i was only using his mum as an example because i read 1 of his replies as his mum was the fat 1
She had weight experts training her and advicing her for 10 years, she ate right, and not eat right in peoples eyes and then eat lots of junkfood when people weren't watching, she exercised lots and simply had been fighting her whole life against it, she had 1 of the most extreme cases on this planet, because whatever they did, they just didn't seemed to get her below a certain weight, she was just stuck at that weight, which alot of people have, they go exercising and eating right and they loose alot of weight, but then at like 180 pounds they just get stuck, my aunt had that, sure she didn't eat healthy all the time, but she still ate very healthy, and exercised alot, she just never lost weight, even the few times that she only ate healthy.Quote:
its funny hes totally uninformed on this, the only thing he knows about the subject is his friends mum died and apparently couldnt lose the weight
when it wasnt that she couldnt it was that she didnt
When a person claims things about which he doesn't know anything about then that's called having a big ego.Quote:
ex only said that he knows what he's talking about and explained why he does. no ego involved. in fact ex is the last person i would blame for having too big an ego.
You say i haven't changed? I say you haven't changed, you still try to twist stories, i don't get my info from some guy from the internet, i get my info from people who have been specialist for 10-20 years, yet you agree (with no knowledge of this matter) with someone who has no real expierence with this.Quote:
sorry to see you havent changed gohan. cant believe you're arguing with ex on something he's a goddamned expert in and you still think you know it better because of "this one guy i know over the internet said this" and "this one thing i've read on the internet".
He ain't a specialist, he does some fighting shit and helps training people, that's a huge difference from a obesity specialist, people who ate themself fat don't need a special training, they can just loose weight and it won't come back aslong they don't start eating everything again, people who didn't ate themself fat need to do alot more, they can't just loose some weight and eat healthy, that will make them loose weight yes, but it won't make them get a normal weight.
You must be missing the point, the people i'm talking about don't eat themself fat, you will find that alot of them eat healthier then you do, the people you talk about are at mcdonalds everyday, eating 3 burgers or something with lots of fries, those people can loose it all easily, the other ones don't, if you can't understand the difference then don't waste forum space with your spam.Quote:
anyone CAN loose/gain weight
but first they'll have to be willing to people with 200 pounds overweight (generally) dont even want to do anything about it (because they would have to give up their eating habbits in order to do so/ because they're happy the way they are/...)
When a person eats right, trains daily for 10 years and finally risks their life to loose weight then trust me that they want it.Quote:
if you have your mind set on changing you WILL change. you may not get to become a supermodel but dammit you will look better if you really want to
Btw why can't they become a supermodel, according to Ex they can!
If you don't want to have a discussion then don't post.Quote:
plz dont even reply to my post gohan. my intention is not to start arguing with you
I didn't read a word of whst was written by u there Gohan, so i'm gonna make up wot u wrote and assume ur on about wot I think ur on about. Thus my reply is is: Stfu, kthx.
stfu both of u tbh and let this thread die :P
Gohan is right, what are you guys ranting and raving about? This scientifically proven, and many times at that.
I was overweight for awhile, and the doctors took to worry about this. After a month they began to concern themselves again as I lost over fourty pounds. They then realized I had gained fourty pounds of muscle from football. I would like set the record straight on this, I hate organized sports; I was forced into playing by my dad. In any instance, I have never been over weight or even close to it, and I do eat quite a bit. If I buy a bag of chips, I hate potato chips, I will eat it within moments of purchase. I love sweets, meat, salads, pizza, and whatever else and I eat this stuff quite often. I have a twenty eight inch waist, and it has been that way for years. I don't have a ponch, I have a six pack. I wouldn't even need to work out and I'd retain my form; maybe not the six pack, but a ponch would not form.
I need some god damn sleep, I can't think straight. This is embarrassing, I couldn't think of a word, the only possible word commonation, and now I can't carry a rebut.
lmao gohan is back!
wb gohan im not even reading your posts anymore because they are full of shite!
you know nothing!
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Originally Posted by locust
rofl i respected u a little till u wrote that
I love death metal, industrial metal and everything that is ROCK! but i dont dress in all black.. my bottom half consists of blue jeans and some swade sandy coloured loafers, and i wear an alsortment of t-shirts, i dont consider myself a goth, but id happily talk to someone regardless of there looks, EMO people piss me off abit but yeh, there emo
(death to my chemical romance)
oh and i cba to read 7 pages, this reply is purly to do with the title :O
OH and gohan if ur moms fat just get her a stomach clamp. They can force people to loose weight genetic or not by putting a metal clamp in your stomach that reduces its size so u cant eat more than a tennisball sized meal about 5 times a day
his mums friend tried that im pretty sure thats why she died >.<Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocz
You can live off 1 banana and a pint of guiness a day for the rest of your life.
badlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocz
and not when your body is used to taking in a huge amount of calories everyday just to sustain itself
omg, i just read this when i was awake.... OMG MAN! you wanted to get pictures up???? EWWWWWWW! damn, i was 1/2 asleep when reading that, i am surprised i didnt have nightmares!Quote:
Originally Posted by STEELY
You have no idea of the risks, the procedure has quite alot of risk (her friend died during it and they already had plenty of expierence with it) and after that you have many complications, a friend of my aunts has one and she been in the hospital quite a few times with serious problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocz
Besides you take away 1 of the best things in life, food, i mean alot of people talk easy about dieting, but that often includes not eating alot of great food, and like many people i love good food, now ofcourse that doesn't mean you have to eat a shitload, but the amount you can eat then is like a 10th from what you eat normally, and you have to eat certain things already, it's very important when you have that to eat healthy food with the right vitamins and all, normally you can just eat some fruit, but when you then eat fruit you hardly can't eat anything else.
I know alot of people think it's a medical procedure, but medical wise you are better of fat then have that, in the end it's just cosmetic, and with the risks i wouldn't do it, but if you still do it then make sure you don't care for food, because the food you will eat will be the same stuff all the time that your body needs most, but you can never have a nice meal anymore, mostly just shakes with everything you need in it.
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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
lmao hes still going at it!
gohan read this if ur so smart
"the ph miracle"
then come back and tell me your so certain about the crap you type!
you idiot!
So what's wrong now, let me guess you also train people who had their stomach made smaller, right?
Damn you are such an expert, you must know everything....
:poster_of :poster_of :poster_of :poster_of :poster_of
Tbh if this keeps going its gonna be the worlds longest thread - gohan just wont drop it
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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
actually no i dont and
again no i dont!
damn!
So although you don't work with them and you can't tell me what's wrong, you already say it's wrong just because you are a talented idiot, is that right?
Also nathan, unless you can actually tell me what's wrong unlike our extremely talented idiot then just shut the fuck up, thanks.
Btw feel free to close this as ex clearly can't have a discussion as all he has to fall back on is that "1 guy i helped train sometime ago", he clearly knows jack shit about the subject and has so far said nothing that would prove what i say is wrong, but then again i get my info from experts with 20+ years expierence, they must be wrong because our talented idiot says so.
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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
lol i dont work with ppl whov had stomaches reduced because the ppl i work with dont need that
because
a) i wouldnt let them get that bad
b) if they were "that bad" there are still many other better options
i will leave it open as the discusion is still going :tp:
i have much more to fall back on than 1 guy i helped this one time
our gym has about 350 active members as of the start of august
all of which get the personal attention of each instructor everytime they are down at the gym
even outside if they request or require it
and yes, get it thru your thick skull
your so called experts are wrong
why are they wrong?
because they arnt right
desnt get much simpler than that :tp:
for instance did u know it is possible to live on salads only for the rest of ur life.
eating vegetables is all the human body needs and completely ties in with my PH argument which i can tell for a fact u know nothing about
i am far more than a talented idiot, i have a huge penis and more posts than you.
therefore i conclude that i am superior.
Oh they are wrong because you say so, well everyone let's all please to a 19 year old talented idiot as he has done it all, you know all those supermodels, yeah well at 1 point they were 500 pounds, but then Ex came in with his red cape with a big I (of idiot ofcourse) on it and saved the day.
You know those advertisements where you see a really big person turn into a model, well most of you think it's because of those pills they give them, personally i always thought they were different people, but Ex just pm'd me that he gave them some assistance and they lost weight in no time.
Btw has anyone looked in a gym? Do you know that the average person that starts going to the gym leaves after 2-3 times already, yeah that's because most people don't like to go to the gym, most of the big people leave quite fast, they feel exposed and it never goes fast enough, you know people who are slightly overweight see big results, i mean if you are 200 pounds overweight and you loose 3 pounds a week then you will think it's shit, but if you are 10 pounds overweight then that's awesome, ofcourse overall the more you weight the more you loose, but if you switch that to percentages then it's alot quicker if you are only slightly overweight.
Anyway what leaves in the gym are 3 types of people, those who love to work out, gives them a satisfying feeling, then you have those that do it because of medical reasons, and then you have the people that want to get in shape for appearance reasons, for themself because of low self esteem, or because they want better results by the opposit sex, or for gay people the same sex, and stuff like that (i don't think i missed one)
Now unlike popular believe there are people who love to work out even if they are quite overweight, my aunt was 1 of them (she is 55 now and has slowed down), she used to go to the gym alot, atleast 5 hours a week, but hey according to Ex she did everything wrong, oh yes that's right boys and girls, Ex was there to witness it, and he witness eating herself fat, ain't that right Ex? She didn't loose weight because she ate herself full all day long, because surely that's the only possible reason, i mean if you workout and eat properly then you should at least get a decent weight, sure not a perfect weight but only people who eat extremely well and workout can reach that, take my dad for example, he could actually gain some weight, but hey he only wants to eat right, you know like meat, fries oh yeah and he likes lots of gravy, damn if we all ate like that we would all be at the right weight, not to mention that he never walks or cycles, he uses his scooter or car, if we all did that it sure would make us loose alot of weight, unfortunaly not all of us can, like my moms friend, she just ate way to many vegatables and stuff like that, on top of that she worked out daily with help of professionals, wtf was she thinking, ofcourse that causes her to be fat, ain't that right Ex?
Incase you didn't notice, i was being sarcastic, you're really stupid you know that, you really think you get it all, i'm not saying that with your help people can't loose weight, but you can't go around talking about how you can get everyone at a normal weight, you just can't, even when they sacrifice to never eat anything unhealthy ever again, because most people eat unhealthy from time to time, and that doesn't have to mean right away something with alot of fat like fries, that can also be a piece of meat, or a snack, or some chocolate, you know the things you eat aswell, and everyone else on this forum, you can't go tell people they can't eat anything like that anymore, especially you, you see you obviously don't have weight problems, because if you had then you couldn't eat unhealthy food, you can't tell people not to do that stuff when you never had to do it yourself, i don't know it either, but i'm not a hypocrit that tells people they could become a model (fat people can have a pretty face and all, so based what you say they could become a model) just aslong they dont eat bad food, because bad food is wrong, and when they turn around eat a mars bar.
People with serious overweight (not caused by eating themself fat) struggle their whole life to keep a decent weight, from all those people in that organization not a single 1 has managed to get a normal weight, and you have no idea how hard they are on themself, and how much pain they have both physicly and mentally because of it, you can't imagine how hard it is, you can't, no matter what you say, and neither can i, so stop pretending that you can turn them into normal weight people, you want to help those people then help them exercise, to keep them moving, help them with eating better, as almost all people can eat better and most important get them accept who they are, ofcourse you might not get this, and you still are a talented idiot who thinks he can still change everything, but hopefully you will remind it for 1 day that you are helping someone who can't seem to loose the amount of weight they should based on your believes right now.
Now i'm betting you are going to post some post about how great you are and shit, but you can just blow me, and i might not know as much about dieting and exercising, but i do know people who are specialized in it, and i take their word over someone like you who never worked with someone who didn't eat themself fat any day of the week.
hey excellent write up
its a shame its all misinformed
they arnt wrong because i say they are
oh no, they are wrong because they have been educated incorrectly, how can they know any different if thats the way they have been taught?
btw as for my gym its not a gym like ur thining of, i just call it a gym cos thats a generic term
its a school of martial arts
and our average member stays with us for about 3-4 years
not a few visits or a few months. they stay with us for years.
why?
because we know wtf we are doing.
dont take my word on itQuote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
dont take theirs either
educate urself on it
look into ph values and how it affects the body
man you dont realise how simple it really is, its easier than falling off a wall
read up on it
the best single book i could recomend is "the ph miracle" by robert o young and shelley redford young
they are the real experts
im not an expert at all, but i do know more than enough to tell u that u are as per usuall, chatting right out of ur arse
even if u wernt chatting out of ur arse itd be just as bad, i mean with a face like urs who can tell the difference!? boom boom.
So because that's not a regular gym doesn't make what i say any less true, it will just mean that most people that join up aren't that much overweight, which you confirmed as you couldn't do better then "that 1 guy"
Btw i don't believe at all 3-4 years is average, you really should check that 1 out, i'm sure there are alot of people that stick around that long, but alot of people come a few times and go again because it's to hard, that takes the average down bigtime, that is ofcourse unless it's only for advanced people, in that case it would be quite normal as they are used to it.
You say it's so easy, then why do so many people struggle that bad, or do you truely believe that you know the secret of losing weight that hardly anyone knows, you might know the best ways to lose weight, but you do not know that it doesn't get the same results on people who don't eat themselves fat.
You say they are experts, and i'm sure they know alot, but what you might not understand is that they don't base their results on people who got a genetic disorder (yes obesity is a genetic disorder, quite a impressive title considering people eat themself fat, right? WRONG) but on people who ate themself fat, alot of the shown results come from people that went through a depression and gained alot of weight during that time.
Now you go get me find a expert that has a regular weight that used to be alot overweight (200+ pounds overweight) which was largely caused because of this genetic disorder and otherwise just stop talking.
Btw some other interesting stuff, although which you ofcourse find bullshit... a woman my aunt knows had her stomach made smaller, anyway she went from like 300 pounds to 110 pounds with it, but due to lots of problem (you should be aware of this and you should know that doing this is the worst thing you can do to your body) she had it removed, now she didn't ate much after that at all, still got alot of vitamins and all, exercised, yet she went to 270 pounds in 3 months time, and the stuff she ate wasn't bad, sure it wasn't the healthiest food, but it was good food, nothing wrong with, explain that, and don't come with the "i'm right because i knew this 1 fat guy" because you can just shove that.
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gohan
its not a noraml gym at all
the figure is correct, its my job to know what goes on and i do
its not for advanced people, u should see the state of people when they come to us
stop talking out of ur bum hole and read up on what ive told u!
read the ph miracle!
read about alkaline diets!
fuck even try it urself!
gaywad assmuncher!
first class entertainment :) keep going :D
0_o Ex really does hate Gohan.
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sorry this bit is long ppl but lpease read all of it, it will take u just a few mins but i assure u it is very informative, if it interests u please pm me with questions or research it urself
also another point is this, there are many cultures in the world not affected by obesity or anything like that. also other common problems that are related to blood ph such as osteperosis and diabetes.
take okinawa for example, northern pakistan etcetc
why are we in the west plagued by this and they dont even have words for obesity, diabetes and osteperosis in their vocab?
simply because they never came across them
why not i heard you ask gohan! why not!? your girl voice cries out in the night sky!
ill tell you why not my uneducated smelly little friend from overseas!
their diet!
simple as that kidda!
they have an alkaline diet, BLAM simple as that!
why have i brought diabetes and osteoperosis into the argument i hear u whimper.
well whimper no more gayhan i am here to educate u once more!
i wont go into the ins and outs of the diabetes as i dont know the science for it but i will say an alkaline diet cures all forms of diabetes. yes even type 2 where u have to inject insulin to live.
so lets take a closer look at osteoperosis, very common degenerative disease/condition that we take for granted and just assume its related to old age.
when the truth is we shouldnt suffer from it at all.
any of your bumchum expert gay friends will tell u its related to a lack of calcium which leads to brittle bones. go and ask them
go now ask them quickly!
ok.. asked them?
they told u im right so far about osteoperosis?
good.
ok now we just assume over here in the west that as people mature into oldies we just have less calcium, we just cant retain it or something.
this is bullshit
when your blood is too acidic ur body needs to stop it somehow
the same way u need to keep the same temperature to operate effeciantly, u shiver when cold and sweat when hot.
when ur blood is too acidic it very cleverly takes minerals from other parts of the body to help realkaline the blood.
and i bet you guessed it peeps!
the body takes calcium from the bones!
when calcium is broken down inside the body it is an alkaline!
after years and years of being acidic and using ur calcium to fight that instead of having it used on ur bones u can develop brittle bones, or osteoperosis!
damn but why am i talking about this instead of the fat chick ur mum knew?
well gayhan im here to save ur fragile little mind again
the body doesnt just take calcium ohhh no, the body is too clever for that
it takes other stuff like magnesium and such
but the body thinks "man i may be acidic for a while i dont wanna take too many minerals i need them man!"
so it also does something else
it takes energy that could be used for things like repairing the body, for the imune system and such and guess what it produces?
it produces fat
why?
well if ur blood is acidic then while ur blood is taking oxygen to ur organs, muscles and such its taking all that acid too, and this is bad!
BAD GOHAN BAD!
so i makes fat as a buffer for all this acid
an alkaline diet makes sure u dont need this fat!
and damn it all goes away!
and that my friend is why i know wtf im talking about and why u should spend less time wanking over animal porn and more time listening to me/actually reading up on this
for about the 5th time i tell u read "the ph miracle"
if u are too poor and cannot afford a £6.99 book then look it up on the web im sure there is plenty here
on a final note i would like to apologise for 3 things
1. my spelling and grammar
2. gohan
3. gohans mum
my condolences to ex's family
poor chap is trying to win an arguement vs gohan :(
he seems to be winning... but is he really? what does gohan have up his sleeve?!
years and years of "internet arguing" experience you say?
only time will tell!!
the saga continues
newhoooo...
*munches on popcorn*
i am waiting gohans completely un thought out, uneducated and plain stupid reply!
*shakes in his boots*
Hey... good idea! We should record this! ^_^Quote:
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*starts taking screen shots of the thread*
Thanks. :thumbup:
This is turning into the longest thread. Shut that one down and continue with this one xD.
0_o it is still open.
well back to the goth thing, im looking for 3 HIM albums and 2 nightwish albums in 320kbps mp3 format lol :D
Him r teh suxorz :1:
all gayhan has to do is admit i know a whole lot more about this then he does
either that or back up his completely flawed argument with something substantial other than he has sex with goats
him arnt goth, there shit emo
Arch Enemy and crade of filth = goth
Im sure I was in an argument 6 pages ago on this thread :P
well i guess gohan hasnt responded so ill just do the grown up thing and take the win
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