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    Everybody loves DTB DonTonberry is offline
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    Help Me With This Top Secret Mission

    Help Me Find Out How To Regulate The Blade Length On My DTB Patented Lightsabre!

    Instructions :

    1) UV Power Supply At The Bottom Of The Base
    2) Mirrored Innards To Reflect All Light Continusely
    3) Magnifying Lens' Progressing Up The Sabre To Enchance The UV Light
    4) Flat Headed Crystal To Magnify The Blade Even More And Then Produce A Distinct Straight Blade
    5) Convex Lens For The Extra Power


    How Would We Regulate The Blade Length As This Would Carry On For Eternity.
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    F**KIN LEGEND! exclamatio is offline
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    im thinking this could be more of a laser rifle!

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    Everybody loves DTB DonTonberry is offline
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    Rifles Blow!

    We Need To Make This A Lightsabre AKA Laser Sword!


    This Is The Result We Need :


    http://www.forum.ragezone.com/attach...id=11620&stc=1
    Last edited by DonTonberry; 06-12-04 at 01:35 AM.

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    /\/\@573|2 NoPeace is offline
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    how about a really big battery with a little switch on it to regulate the juice :P

    NoPeace - out

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    Grand Master ssddss is offline
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    add-in a hexagonal 3d figure infront of the crystal ;)

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    dAI for president. MentaL is offline
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    add a compass to it, every light sabre must have one..

    a jedi does get lost u know

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    Everybody loves DTB DonTonberry is offline
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    Got A Theory In Minimizing The Blade.

    The Flat Topped Crystal Has To Go:

    1) Use A Crystal That Splits The Beam
    2) Use Precise Positioning To Get The Resulting Split Lasers To Intercept Each Other

    Ever Used A Prism? What Happens To The Beam Of Light When Passed Thru The Prism?
    It Shortens :)
    Say If Out Crystal Works Using The Prism Concept Each Split Beam Would "Intercept" Each
    Other At A Certain Length. Using The Right Crystal And Enough Light This Would Be Perfectly
    Possible. Also Using A Prism We Could Limit The Angle At Which Each Beam Would Split And
    Effectively Focus Into One Beam - While In Fact It Would Be Made Up Of Hundreds / Thousand
    / Millions Of Different Beams All Interwining And Intercepting Into What Seems Like One
    Beam.

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    F**KIN LEGEND! exclamatio is offline
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    sweet i was thinking of something hat would angle it

    but then i thought the beam would just carry on forever in all kinds of directions lol

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    Everybody loves DTB DonTonberry is offline
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    Dont Forget We Are Using UV Rays - Not A Lazer


    Lasers Will Travel Forever - UV Wont

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    Grand Master Ionic & Schizo is offline
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    *clears throat* Ahem!

    Quote Originally Posted by DonTonberry
    5) Convex Lens For The Extra Power
    Convex lenses refract light outward. By this I mean, that any light beam passing through a convex lens gets wider wen coming out the other end.

    This cant giv extra power because the energy of the beam/ray passing hrough is now spread over a greater area. The same energy spread over a larger area decreases the overall power of the beam/ray.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonTonberry
    Got A Theory In Minimizing The Blade.

    ...

    Ever Used A Prism? What Happens To The Beam Of Light When Passed Thru The Prism?
    It Shortens :)
    Say If Out Crystal Works Using The Prism Concept Each Split Beam Would "Intercept" Each
    Other At A Certain Length. Using The Right Crystal And Enough Light This Would Be Perfectly
    Possible. Also Using A Prism We Could Limit The Angle At Which Each Beam Would Split And
    Effectively Focus Into One Beam - While In Fact It Would Be Made Up Of Hundreds / Thousand
    / Millions Of Different Beams All Interwining And Intercepting Into What Seems Like One
    Beam.
    Prisms only refract and (at the rite angles) reflect light. The shortening you speak of is the shortening of the width of the light beam.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonTonberry
    Lasers Will Travel Forever - UV Wont
    All electromagnetic waves/radiation (which includes UV rays) travel forever. Not jus lasers.

    Just to repeate myself, all kinds of light travels forever in a straight line if not obstructed. It just becomes weaker as it travels further from the light source.

    The only way to stop a ray in it's path is:
    • To have a material that will Absorb the radiation a certain distance from the ray source

    • To have a material that will Reflect it back into the light sabre a certain distance from the ray source

    • or use the force


    Woo! Physics!
    Last edited by Ionic & Schizo; 06-12-04 at 05:57 PM.

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    Grand Master RageFire is offline
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    Although this appears a good theory by definition, it is infact flawed. Simple reason being, if the wiz kids/adults/aliens that made the Star Wars films couldn't make a REAL light sabre, then...of course...DB, with should i say 'limited' knowledge of making light sabres, simply isn't going to cut the mustard.

    If you make a real working light sabre...i'll eat my hat...LITERALLY.

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    The Unbeatable GohanSSJ is offline
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    Well even if they could then they wouldn't, think about it, how hard wouldn't it be to record a fight scene, it would mean they would have to hold the lightsabres in the exact right position all the time, so you need to take a swing and stop exactly at the right point...

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    Just_meandLittle_Lucy Evilkitten is offline
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    omg, my head hurts, i alwayz h9d pyhiscs >.<

    note 2 self, neva read things based on this sort of thing or head might exploded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionic & Schizo
    Just to repeate myself, all kinds of light travels forever in a straight line if not obstructed. It just becomes weaker as it travels further from the light source.
    Do u know why? :P

    Molecules of solid objects have less space/Vacum between them, therefore light stops immediately when it hits solid objects.

    Molecules of liquid have a medium space/vacum between them, and therefore they cant stop light immediately, but they can weaken it by alot.

    Molecules of gases have a lot of space/vacum between them, therefore the light goes in-between the molecules. But it is still weakened by a bitty bit and will eventually stop.


    Learned this a few years ago in science class ^^

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    The Unbeatable GohanSSJ is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilkitten
    omg, my head hurts, i alwayz h9d pyhiscs >.<

    note 2 self, neva read things based on this sort of thing or head might exploded
    What's "hnined"? :P

    Btw the only thing worth reading is the kama sutra. :P

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    Just_meandLittle_Lucy Evilkitten is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
    What's "hnined"? :P

    Btw the only thing worth reading is the kama sutra. :P
    damn right, can i borrow your copy? :D

    h8d but nm :tp:

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    *still exists* Solares is offline
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    SImply put... you would need something at the end of the saber to stop the beam from going on forever.... to do this u would need a stick with something that can absorbe the light at the end of it... Which pretty much means it wont extend like it does in starwars.... u may as well just use a real sword..

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    F**KIN LEGEND! exclamatio is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solares
    SImply put... you would need something at the end of the saber to stop the beam from going on forever.... to do this u would need a stick with something that can absorbe the light at the end of it... Which pretty much means it wont extend like it does in starwars.... u may as well just use a real sword..

    what if the thing that stops the beam was invisible!!!!

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    Everybody loves DTB DonTonberry is offline
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    High Gravity Could Shape And Limit Light ... Fact
    True But Would Require Some Decent Gravitational Pull


    But! Having A Beam Which Emitted Positive Charges , And An Emitter Than Produced Negative Charge Would Create A Classic Magnectic Field When Used With A Substance Which Allowed High Atom Charge (AKA Light). So, Mixing Positive And Negative Charges COULD Stimulate A Magnectic Field Strong Enough To Push Back All The Charges As They Repel Each Other. For E.G The Negatives Repel The Positives, The Positives Repel The Negatives.

    This Would Limit The Amount Of Gravitational Pull Required On The Light - And A Magnectic Field Generator Could Be Used To Keep The Blade In The Classic Lightsabre Blade Trajectory.

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    *sign* Physics n00bs. I MUST spoil yer dream & use this oppertunity as practise for m

    *sign* Physics n00bs. I MUST spoil yer dream & use this oppertunity as practise for my Uni interview tomorrow! Serious answers to joke thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by DonTonberry
    High Gravity Could Shape And Limit Light ... Fact
    True But Would Require Some Decent Gravitational Pull

    But! Having A Beam Which Emitted Positive Charges , And An Emitter Than Produced Negative Charge Would Create A Classic Magnectic Field When Used With A Substance Which Allowed High Atom Charge (AKA Light).
    Light isnt a highly charged atom. It's a strange thing that can behave as a particle and as a wave. Generally in physics it's spoken of as being carried by photon. Photons AKA tiny massless packets of quanta (AKA energy).

    Photons have NO charge. Not to say that light cant be affected by magnetic field. It can. But ONLY when the light (behaving as a wave) is polarised (the waves of the light are vibrating in one plane only). Magnetic fields rotate the plane of the polarised light slightly. This still doesnt help you.

    & What do you mean by a "beam which emitted positive charges"? Beams dont emit charge. They can create charge when they hit the surface of an object / pass through one but they dont emit charges. You can have a beam of moving charges but not a beam that emits charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonTonberry
    So, Mixing Positive And Negative Charges COULD Stimulate A Magnectic Field Strong Enough To Push Back All The Charges As They Repel Each Other. For E.G The Negatives Repel The Positives, The Positives Repel The Negatives.
    Opposite charges (i.e. Negative and positive or positive and negative) dont repel. Opposite charges attract. Negative and negative charges repel. Positive and positive charges repel.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonTonberry
    This Would Limit The Amount Of Gravitational Pull Required On The Light - And A Magnectic Field Generator Could Be Used To Keep The Blade In The Classic Lightsabre Blade Trajectory.
    Gravitational pull on the light? Any gravity produced would be minimal. Light needs a phenomonally large gravitational field to even beand light. How strong a gravitational field? Well it takes a star (something like the mass of the sun) to even see any bending of light rays.

    Even if you had this a gravity field this strong on yer light sabre, the person holding it and possiibly everyone around him/her would be attracted to (or in "common ppl" language I guess "sucked" toward will do) to the light sabre.

    The only way to stop light / bring it back into the light sabre using gravity only would require an object that had enough gravity to bend the path of light back AKA a black hole. Now I dont really think its safe to handel a black hole in the palm of your hand, really!

    I mean if you had a black hole why bother with a light sabre. You could just suck all your enemies up in2 the black hole. Jus as long as you dont stick your hand to close to it.
    :Flush: :ignore:

    NEXT:
    Quote Originally Posted by Exclamatio
    what if the thing that stops the beam was invisible!!!!
    How would you keep that thing that stops the beam where it should be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RsX
    Do u know why? :P

    Molecules of solid objects have less space/Vacum between them, therefore light stops immediately when it hits solid objects.
    The plastic that makes up yer drinks bottle etc. and the ice that goes into yer drinks are solid but you can still see thru them! Explain! :eek5:

    :thumbsup: thinking tho!

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    Grand Master youth is offline
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    http://panda.unm.edu/acadadv/lightning.html <== Bullshit; first off we havn't figured out how to trap a "laser" for more than a few seconds. He claims to have created a 12-14 inch blade, and his babble is based off light theory. Yes they are hand-in-hand, yet it does not contribute to the research he has supposedly done.

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    GEeeeeeeeeeeeeEEkss o.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionic & Schizo
    The plastic that makes up yer drinks bottle etc. and the ice that goes into yer drinks are solid but you can still see thru them! Explain! :eek5:
    :thumbsup: thinking tho!
    Some objects that have clear molecules (no color) let the light thru it.. duh Oo

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    F**KIN LEGEND! exclamatio is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionic & Schizo
    How would you keep that thing that stops the beam where it should be?
    well it ould be a rod that connects to the handle goes riiiight up and has a pad on the end that absorbs everything into it

    i propose we use my wallet, as soon as the light hits it theres no chance in hell its getting back out

    we only need to use some invisible paint on it so that it cannot be seen ruining the illusion

    :zoo_fox4:



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