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    Master Jedi Vendaku~Metal is offline
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    I hope you idiots choke.

    There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons.


    For the last fucking time. The government of the U.S DID NOT cause the WTC incident. Maddox says pretty much everything i could ever say here so..:P.

    I keep hearing about this to, it's pissing me off. All you idiots watch this video "Loose change" by some fucking loser who made it. And then adopt the skewed bullshit perspective/opinion of the moron who made this "documentory".


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    Grand Master xeLJoYo is offline
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    It's not just Loose Change....

    There's many things about 9/11 left unanswered, and a few facts have proven to be different than what the government wanted the world to believe...

    For instance, it's highly unlikely Bin Laden ever had something to do with it, with the so-called confession video PROVEN to be fake, and him saying he had nothing to do with it on every other occasion.


    Im not gonna say straight out the government did it, but it sure doesn't look good for them.

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    Grand Master xeLJoYo is offline
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    Oh and, the guy on that site is totally wrong too.

    He says the government would have no problem killing the guys who made the video. Wrong.
    If they would kill him, and take everything he made down, they would indirectly prove that he was actually right at some point...
    It would show everyone that they lied about things, and that Loose Change was real close to the truth.

    Now if they dont kill him (and they wont), they'll keep the mystery open, and leave it to people who simply refuse to believe anything to try and silence this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeLJoYo View Post
    Oh and, the guy on that site is totally wrong too.

    He says the government would have no problem killing the guys who made the video. Wrong.
    If they would kill him, and take everything he made down, they would indirectly prove that he was actually right at some point...
    It would show everyone that they lied about things, and that Loose Change was real close to the truth.

    Now if they dont kill him (and they wont), they'll keep the mystery open, and leave it to people who simply refuse to believe anything to try and silence this issue.
    Who would know if all evidence of it is gone? I think Maddox would have thought of that possibility by the way. He's a smart son of a bitch.

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    Grand Master xeLJoYo is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendaku~Metal View Post
    Who would know if all evidence of it is gone? I think Maddox would have thought of that possibility by the way. He's a smart son of a bitch.
    It's plain obvious that if the maker of the documentary would just plain dissappear something fishy is going on. And it's not like you can stop something from circulating on the net.
    Once it's there, you better be very quick, or it's everywhere. It's kinda late.

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    Master Jedi Vendaku~Metal is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by xeLJoYo View Post
    It's plain obvious that if the maker of the documentary would just plain dissappear something fishy is going on. And it's not like you can stop something from circulating on the net.
    Once it's there, you better be very quick, or it's everywhere. It's kinda late.
    Rofl the government has more control over the net than you could ever dream of. This kind of shit would be gone within seconds and this idiot dead without anyone knowing why real quick.

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    Grand Master xeLJoYo is offline
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    I think you are seriously overestimating the US government.
    They would only have partial control over those parts of the net hosted on US soil...

    They can't just remove anything they like. A well secured site will be just as unreachable for them as for the greatest of hackers.

    And I already said, that guy suddenly dying, would be VERY suspicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeLJoYo View Post
    I think you are seriously overestimating the US government.
    They would only have partial control over those parts of the net hosted on US soil...

    They can't just remove anything they like. A well secured site will be just as unreachable for them as for the greatest of hackers.

    And I already said, that guy suddenly dying, would be VERY suspicious.
    So tell me. Where are the major internet servers hosted? You know, those ones that the U.S has full access to.

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    Grand Master xeLJoYo is offline
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    And you think that's all? There's way more than just that part hosted in the US, so there's no way they could get everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendaku
    you idiots watch this video "Loose change" by some fucking loser who made it
    I've watched Loose Change, so have many other mods. Does that make us idiots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeLJoYo View Post
    And you think that's all? There's way more than just that part hosted in the US, so there's no way they could get everywhere.
    Ugh. Ok.. bottom line.

    Maddox > Me > You. :icon6:

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    Grand Master xeLJoYo is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendaku~Metal View Post
    Ugh. Ok.. bottom line.

    Maddox > Me > You. :icon6:
    Well, seeing as you failed to properly rebutt at least 2/3 of the arguments I presented, it would rather be Me > You > Maddox.

    Have a nice day, time for my nap.

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    Master Jedi Vendaku~Metal is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by xeLJoYo View Post
    Well, seeing as you failed to properly rebutt at least 2/3 of the arguments I presented, it would rather be Me > You > Maddox.

    Have a nice day, time for my nap.
    Not at all. Just to lazy to argue MORE(Because i already did, HENCE the reason i posted this thread).

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    But you havn't answered my question 0.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoii View Post
    But you havn't answered my question 0.o
    Oh shit. I didn't even see it, sorry. Well that answer can depend yet it is simple.

    If you believe loose change: You are probably an idiot.(If not an idiot, just gullable ;). (not insulting you directly btw, just generalizing)
    If you do not believe loose change: I love you. =)

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    Oh I believe in many things in Loose Change, even though I admit to being against it strongly like you in the past. Times change.

    I find that people who do not acknowledge points presented in Loose Change, people like you, are ignorant. There is a "nonpartisan" report of the 9/11 attacks called the 9/11 Commission. This is widely accepted as the "true story" of what really happened by most politicians and news networks. ABC recently even made a movie about it.

    The 9/11 Commission was required by the government to thoroughly answer all questions asked by the families of the victims of 9/11. Here is a quote to what one of the authors said before starting the project:

    Quote Originally Posted by Author of 9/11 Commission
    I knew there was no way we'd be able to provide solid proof the government wasn't behind this..
    Also, the 9/11 Commission apparently payed off families so they wouldn't ask questions, therefore the commission report wouldn't be required to answer them.

    Not acknowleding the points or seeking explanations to the points presented makes people ignorant, and it seems that is the case here.
    Last edited by Kaoii; 03-10-06 at 11:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoii View Post
    Oh I believe in many things in Loose Change, even though I admit to being against it strongly like you in the past. Times change.

    I find that people who do not acknowledge points presented in Loose Change, people like you, are ignorant. There is a "nonpartisan" report of the 9/11 attacks called the 9/11 Commission. This is widely accepted as the "true story" of what really happened by most politicians and news networks. ABC recently even made a movie about it.

    The 9/11 Commission was required by the government to thoroughly answer all questions asked by the families of the victims of 9/11. Here is a quote to what one of the authors said before starting the project:



    Also, the 9/11 Commission apparently payed off families so they wouldn't ask questions, therefore the commission report wouldn't be required to answer them.

    Not acknowleding the points or seeking explanations to the points presented makes people ignorant, and it seems that is the case here.
    You can't expect to believe this bullshit loose change actually attempted to say was "Evidence" that just idiotic. The shit this person points out could of been caused by anything. Like the so called "explosions", could of been anything related to the building collapsing.

    Hence maddox's pictures:



    lol, love these. Yet they serve a point.(Blatantly obvious point)

    Now this just says it all.




    What more needs to be said? =/

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    What more needs to be said is you are not going off your own finds. You have not evaluated the evidence on either side, therefore your opinion is completely biased and spun out of your own self ignorance. That isn't arguable because it isn't an opinion - it is a fact.

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    Master Jedi Vendaku~Metal is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoii View Post
    That isn't arguable because it isn't an opinion - it is a fact.
    I don't know what the hell you mean by this. But if it means what i think it means. You are sadly wrong.

    Opinion's are BASED on fact, Ones that are not are called "Pop Sociology" basically meaning an opinion based on no fact, the kind DrPhil and Assholes like Oprah skew upon others. However i won't go on with this. Everyone knows if you remotely even oppose what an S-Mod thinks you'll get banned for life because that would be immoral. Sadly enough that is true. So honestly, i don't feel like getting banned. Which that said, i'm not going to bother arguing with you. Because i know what will happen as an ending result.

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    theres already a debate about it...no1 cares.

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    The fact they release new footage of a plane hitting the pentagon which shows nothing at all tells you they are hiding something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentaL View Post
    The fact they release new footage of a plane hitting the pentagon which shows nothing at all tells you they are hiding something.
    We all know they're hiding something but i honestly don't believe the government would destroy buildings in their own country just to get at some people in the middle east. What is their motives exactly? Destroying two significant towers that helps their economy is i think a little excessive.
    Last edited by Vendaku~Metal; 04-10-06 at 12:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendaku
    Everyone knows if you remotely even oppose what an S-Mod thinks you'll get banned for life because that would be immoral. Sadly enough that is true.
    I should ban you for saying that alone, and believe me if you do again I will. We don't ban people for opposing us in friendly debates, we ban people who regularly cause problems or distress on the forum - similar to what you are doing with profanity and flames in all of your posts.

    Again, my above statement applies to how you feel about supermods:

    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    What more needs to be said is you are not going off your own finds. You have not evaluated the evidence on either side, therefore your opinion is completely biased and spun out of your own self ignorance.
    Your opinions about super moderators are all biased. Before now, I highly doubt you have had any experience with any supermod or have gotten to know any of them, so yes you will have a rough time by getting off on the wrong foot.
    Last edited by Kaoii; 04-10-06 at 01:40 AM.

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    Master Jedi Vendaku~Metal is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoii
    I wasn't so blunt when I put this. Since most of your posts here are essentially flames, that is most likely all you understand - so I will interpret. The above quote bluntly means you are closed minded. You do not evaluate situations. You do not look beyond what you see. You do not do your own research. You do nothing but look at someone else's opinion just to form your own. All of your opinions are clearly biased, including the one about supermods, which I find quite frankly insulting - every supermod should.
    Is it so inconceivable to think that maybe just maybe Maddox's opinion IS mine and that i did not in any way formulate my own opinion from his? Now that's ignorance since you evidently think that. I watched loose change, i read articles upon articles, read maddox's article and noticed he made a few very good points and after ALL of that i made my own opinion. So fucking sue me for it.

    By the way, honestly. I've seen before, times where people would argue with S-Mods long ago in the past and get banned for it. Sure, take it as an insult however i don't mean ALL s-mods do that.
    Last edited by Vendaku~Metal; 04-10-06 at 01:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendaku
    if you remotely even oppose what an S-Mod
    If you generalize "S-Mod" then you are referring to us all, not just a random few - just as you did with calling us all "idiots."

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendaku
    So fucking sue me for it.
    Drop the attitude shit, otherwise no one will care what you think.

    Also understand I respect your opinion, it's just where it's grounded that I find questionable.
    Last edited by Kaoii; 04-10-06 at 01:46 AM.



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