i dont like bush either... but u cud b a bit more nice cudnt u... tbh those ppl need helpQuote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
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i dont like bush either... but u cud b a bit more nice cudnt u... tbh those ppl need helpQuote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Fucking bullshit, you like so many others are blind people who live by "out of sight out of mind"Quote:
Originally Posted by rishwin
What do you think Africa is? Some place where people don't have family or friends? Because you have to be retarded to think that, just because they don't have internet doesn't mean they have friends... yes that's right, you can also have friends outside the internet, bet you didn't know that.
Why donate money to save 1 life when you can donate money and save 10 lifes, or are American lifes worth more?
Fact is that this money donations is close to pointless, America is huge, has lots of resources, they don't need outside help, and if the rest of the world stops lending America money for once then perhaps they will learn to stand on their own 2 feet and reduce the US Army with about 80% so that those can instead work a regular job and improve the economy.
America wastes your money, so give it to Africa who will put it to good use.
So do the people in Africa, but no one gives a fuck about that, just aslong poor America doesn't suffer...Quote:
i dont like bush either... but u cud b a bit more nice cudnt u... tbh those ppl need help
Gohan are you a racist?
I agree with you gohan....people in africa need help....but you cant TOTALLY discount america. But still gohan, there are even others than the africans that need help...so dont argue about your big picture while using the biggest example. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SUFFERING WELCOME TO LIFE. Not being heartless, just real.
America has all the resources to do this, they don't need help.
The question is, are you a racist? Because if you think 1 American is more important then 10 Africans then i'd say you're a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoii
The fact is that you as an American are asking for help, where is America when Africa is asking for help? Oh yeah that's right, they are freaking ripping them off.
You know what makes America America? Power, that's all, because except for that they are nothing, it's poor as hell, because although America is worth a lot, most of it is used for military ends, which will never change, so it's simply poor, a lot of the neighbourhoods are really, really bad, people kill each other all the time, everyone owns a gun, most people are damn poor, they got 10 bums in every back alley etc etc, that's the real America, and the only reason it's still up is because of their military, but that will change 1 day, and it will be a second Russia.
You know when i hear people talking about how they are proud to be American then all i can do is laugh, i mean honestly besides the point of being proud because you were born somewhere is a real laugh, i mean the Netherlands is very rich, yet i'm not proud of it, i don't give a shit, but besides that, there is nothing to be proud off, ofcourse unless you only read the stuff that they want you to read, about how they saved Europe from the Germans and stuff like that, although let's face it, in reality they did it for their own interest, but the parts about how they exploited so many countries all over the world is ofcourse left out.
Anyway as for your racist point, it's a question you really should just ask yourself, anyone that really knows me i'm not a racist, i don't give a flying shit where you come from, fact is that most don't, but the reason why a lot of people don't like America is because they make us dislike them, with their lame ass "God bless America", i mean seriously, wtf is with that, got superior attitude perhaps? Not that i care much as there is no God anyway. (btw unless you actually got proof that there is then don't get me started there)
BTW to make it clear, i do not like or dislike Americans more then anyone else, you have idiots from all over the world, and strange shit happens everywhere, what i do dislike are hypocrits who make special topics for when something happens in America, but doesn't really give a shit about what happens in Africa.
i'll donate if i have the money .
Gohan is right for a change, congratulations.
I'm not a fucking hypocryte, I never said I had anything against the people in Africa, nor did I not care about their situation. If you want to help Africa so dearly, then start a donate to Africa thread, and sure I might make it a sticky, but this is about the immediate problem in America.
From my perspective, you seem to think that every single one of these people, and notice I'm not calling them Americans, they are people, flesh and blood just like me and you, simply do not deserve help. A lot of Africans do deserve help, I never said I had anything against them, but some of these people are good people. And as I have stated, if you knew people who were missing in America you would not be posting what you've been posting here.
And that's as far as I'm going to go with you, as I've said, as much as you seem to enjoy trying to argue with me I'm not going to get into it again with you.
Edit: And as for President Bush, I think he's probably the single worst president besides President Carter that this country has ever had. If it weren't for him, a lot of the problems and deaths atm in New Orleans could've been avoided.
and im still wondering why your always calling me a hypocryte and always trying to argue with me. recently, i've done nothing to provoke you to do so.
Its funny how gohan talks as if he lives in america ^^
O and i live in the 7th worst city in america (According to studies) and i live quite peacefully XD.
But its simple, humans are very territorial and very prejudiced nowadays and are simply more prone to help "Their own" than to help others. which is why africa doesnt get the aid it needs, everyone is too focused on themselves to give to others. Oh and bush=TEH RETARDXXORZ!
he argues wiv every1 <.<Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoii
as kaoii sed... start the africa thread... this 1 is a thread askin help for new orleans, they need help, so we shud help as we shud help africa aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
i'm not being funny, but after Bush denied sending more aid to Africa, can you really expect us to donate to him to help his own continent? His reason for not supplying more aid to Africa, was that he needs resources in the fight against terrorism, now he says, he can deliver aid (in the US) AND fight terrorism. Am I missing something here?
lmao what big picture? Africa isnt the only one in need its every where its where i live probly where you live people die of hunger and no water every day where i live but no one talks about it and its in Arizona so if your for one place getting help your going to have to for every one getting helpQuote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Actually where i live we don't have those problems, and for homeless people there are project and places where they get help to get their life together, and get food and a place to sleep.
Yeah and because it's for Africa daily business so America is more important.Quote:
but this is about the immediate problem in America.
They deserve help... and guess what, they do get help, unlike Africa, America does have the resources.Quote:
From my perspective, you seem to think that every single one of these people, and notice I'm not calling them Americans, they are people, flesh and blood just like me and you, simply do not deserve help.
Like in the little story, America has money to pay the bills, whereas the family of Africa have nothing, who should you help, the people who got money or who don't got money?
Gohan is right here, people only help africa when someone puts on a live show for free with a lot of bands. If Live 8 didnt happen most people wouldnt have donated to Africa. If something isnt in the media people forget about it. In a week or 2 when news of the hurricane stops people will stop caring again. Everyone thinks they are doing good by donating when somethings brought to their attention. Then forget about it when its not under their nose
I wish that Gohan was there when the Hurricane Hit. Or may i Add *sorry to those in the Netherlands* But THAT FUCKEN HURRICANE WAS BIGGER THAN THE NETHERLANDS OVER 200 MILES WIDE WISH IT HIT YOU INSTEAD. so Gohan Stop thinking about Africa and start thinking of Fucken People that lived in that Large City thats now Wiped.
Oh yer, Tbh, if you calculate the total donated to Africa since the start of Charities helping, it would probably be more than America has spent on its Military. Oh, if America didn't spend as much on its Military the world would probably be at War, before you say Iraq and shit like that, i mean Russia and China and even Korea would be at War.
starance don't double post in future.
I can see in some sense what Gohan is trying to say. People never really donate to the countries that really need it like Africa, then when one thing like this happens and everyone is expected to pay up, doesn't seem fair really.
You're to stupid to understand, btw if America was smart enough to actually listen to our experts then this could be mostly avoided.Quote:
Originally Posted by starance
But hey, Bush said this with a reason...
U.S. President George W. Bush: "They never stop thinking of ways of harming America, and neither do we."
Although he didn't mean to say that, there is actually a lot of truth in it.
People like u shudn't be allowed to post, now FUCK OFF.Quote:
Originally Posted by starance
People like him are to stupid to understand seeing things from both sides of the arguement. I have donated a little but I still agree with Gohan and others.
-Mattio
PS: starance take some advise from me, Throw your computer out of the window whilst holding on ok?
Bush isnt an idiot, you cant blame him for this crap. There was an extremely long period of warning of a hurricane hitting and for everyone in the area to evacuate. Being poor isnt an excuse, they were given weeks. The only ones left were black people. (What a surprise) They are calling President Bush racist, yet he gives those lazy dick suckers their welfare checks cause they dont have enough common sense to get a job. The people who were killed deserved it, no questions asked. Like I said they were told multiple times to get their belongings and move, they chose to die. I'd like to know how it's Bush's fault, is it because he's President? Is it because he isnt sitting on welfare?
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eidted:you really shouldn't have posted these jokes, wrong place totally
.. and who exactly are you?
Yerp, maybe i should throw my computer out the window, means i wont have to read some shit about off topic crap, gohan and his followers.
Again, i've posted this thread on some other places "Americans" and they say they'd like to **** you, true and understandable. Anyway, i Agree with you now Gohan Who the fuck cares what happens to America or in that fact The Netherlands. *joke*
Live 8 did absolute shit, People have forgotten about Africa allready yet when it was on they "claimed" to feel sorry for the people, The protesting March that was linked with Live 8 did absolute shit aswell, Sure the leaders decided to give money to Africa, But who to? It certainly wasn't the people who needed help, It was the greedy leaders who have enough fucking money allready. Even if it went to the people, Throwing money at a problem isn't a solution. Getting out there and sorting out the corruption is.
Edit: Starance, Fuck off. Without the Military in Iraq the country would be in total chaos. Did you not see the news during/after the "Statue Of Saddam" was pulled down? It was like something out of a strange movie, People going beserk, Riots, People being killed, shops and homes being vandalised and being broken into, So you say spend less on the military? Well they might aswell pull the troops out then. Also if you read and think "Iraqi = Terrorist" Then you shouldn't be alowed to post your views in the first place.
i stand by gohan on all counts except 1 on here
the death count i believe is way above the 50k mark
it is anarchy there, civil war almost(?)
as for my thoughts
dont argue about what could or should have been done, but look to what can be done from here onwards
people have died they wont be brought back
tbh we dont know half of what is going on there, there where reports on over here telling of massive numbers of deaths b4 they were cut off and replaced with bush friendly reports which had much fewer deaths in their reports
if your gonna donate then donate
as for the rest of, lets just wait and see how this pans out