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You fail to see the bigger picture... I never said money was the same value as anything, I said that it can buy happiness for the most part. I never said money was the only thing that could bring happiness either. You completely took what I said out of context and flipped it around and made it about something completely unrelated to my point. Some people do need money to be happy, usually people who have had none most of their life.Quote:
Originally Posted by VietMusou
HEre you are wrong.
No i did not take this off you and it clearly wasn't mentioned to you so i don't see why you feel like i was talking to you anyway that's not a problem but i never stole it or took it off you.
Money can't buy happiness it's the love and respect that makes people happy and neutral.
Feeling like a hippy here.
We all were given a wish. Some people have like 17 wishes here.
I never say that the money are same value like the respect , loyalty , etc.. I just say the can buy our favorite thing that can make we happy.. On this era we really need money to keep survive..Quote:
Originally Posted by VietMusou
and I agree with Justice
Oh it looked like you were replying to me my bad. But still, you say that money can buy neither happiness nor sadness. Money bought that computer (or phone) that you are using to browse Ragezone and all of your other favorite websites. Being able to browse your favorite sites makes you happy, does it not? I doubt it makes you mad, so yes. It does. Therefore, money can buy happiness. Metaphorically speaking in the buying something that is not a physical thing of-course.Quote:
Originally Posted by VietMusou
To go even further, money bought that dinner or breakfast you ate last night or earlier, did it not? So not only does money buy happiness, but it also allows you to stay alive. Take away your money and not only will you be taking away the things that make you happy (TV, Computer, your car, any material object in your house that cost money) but also things that you NEED.
Yes we need money to survive because we are going trough days of crisis and it's not going very well at the moment and it's indeed the money we need to survive and to feed ourselfs.
This proves that I'm agreeing with both of you.
Anyway there are people who have money but don't bother spending it on consoles internet and what not because they are going fine without them and they produce them with anything that they can find now that is pretty impressive if you do have loads of money but don't bother to spend it.
I've never had that really I've always been a spender and i can't live without my mobile computer and what not so here you are right.
Money is really serious matter without them we are really in bad zone.. I can't think how the homeless people live .. I just only can pray for them.. Maybe if I got nice job I will try to help them..
I wish I can get nice job so I can help poor people..
You might want to take the above to the Debate section.
No need to be so strict, it's a healthy discussion not a debate. Granted it's off-topic but not every post has to be completely on-topic provided it isn't light years off-topic and has a merit of (healthy discussion) to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grolsch
Dude that's a load of crap. Happiness doesn't work that way. What you see is them enjoying themselves, that doesn't mean they are happy or happy because of it. Happiness is more then just a few minutes or hours of enjoying yourself, because that's what a jetski will give you, because at the end of the day your life hasn't changed and depending on how your life is, you will feel shit or happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sub Zero
Don't get me wrong, buying stuff can cheer you up on short term, because it keeps your mind of the thing that really matters and for that moment that you forgot about it, you will feel good.
Because it is true, you can't buy happiness, it doesn't work that way. Like I said money gives you opportunities, however if you don't use those opportunities, you will still be sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Justice For All
Take love for example, now first of all love can be on all levels of wealth, people in debt find love and rich people find love. Now that said, let's think about this.
If you want to date a girl, what do you feel you need/what will she expect. Now in normal situations you expect from each other that you will look nice, that means you need nice cloths, this will cost money. If you date a girl properly, you will most definitely pay the first time and after that it will still cost you money with each date, which again costs you money.
So we can establish that if you're broke, dating becomes a lot harder, sure it's still possible, but it's different.
However just because you have the money to pay for everything needed, does that make you happy? Nope, because you still need to take the steps to get a girl to date you etc.
A friend of mine has quite a bit of money, I don't know how much, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has at least 100k. But is he happy? Nope, he wants a relationship and all, but is too scared to find love. No matter what he would buy, nothing would make him as happy as having a family.
Would I like a big house? Hell yeah, would I like a 67 Mustang? Of course. But will that make me happy, no, it wouldn't. But would I be happy with enough money to visit my friends in other countries? Absolutely. It's all about what you do with it.
We do need money to be happy, not having money will make us unhappy. Just try to imagine being a parent and not being able to afford the cloths that your kids need, or not being able to take them to a fun place?Quote:
Originally Posted by VietMusou
Money is a major reason why people are not happy, because it affects so much, like I said it affects whether you keep working your shitty jobs, it affects whether you can see your friends, it affects whether you can relax on a vacation or not, it affects whether you can offer your family what they need it etc and all of these directly and indirectly constantly influence how you feel about your life and how you will react to the people around you.
I see people who don't have a job and don't have anything and i find it pretty poor to see that they don't have anything and the only way to make them happy is either giving them food drink or some money.
I've recently seen that people have been making charity events going around the streets with bags looking for people who have nothing and give them food and money and that just brings the tears in my eyes to see their joy and hapiness so i am agreeing with Gohan very very much
Money makes us happy but money was made to give out in any way and I'm not the type of person who can keeps the money in my pocket because aside from needing to go to the super market i also want to buy other stuff really badly and then i just give out money and it's gone like dust in the wind and i regret giving money out after all.
But giving it to charity and to the poor is something i won't regret because they have something and i have everything i have a house and stuff and they don't so it would give them a chance to buy something good and i think deserve more than i do.
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Money can make you happy, family is more important though.
i wish i could have a million more wishes -.-
Seriously? Is it so hard to read the OP?Quote:
Originally Posted by Binji
i didnt read it -.-