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Originally Posted by Delici0us
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^While Russia does have more now, Wiki says otherwise on the amount;
Country Warheads active/total
United States 2,150 / 8,000
Russia 1,800 / 10,000
Before the UN proposed the US destroy 25% of it's stockpile or lose footing in Military Expenditure, we had about 3,000 more Warheads. But, Russia has apparently accumulated a bit more.
List of states with nuclear weapons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I never stated ACTIVE warheads, I stated STOCKPILED. The truth of the matter is, both Russia and America could rustle some jimmies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Justice For All
After the first few nukes are fired every economy will collapse, Every population will turn on its government, Just shit will happen, We will probably end up overthrowing our own governments and the entire world will be like Libya WITH nuclear radiation.
Either way if China or Russia shot a nuke at the United States then every NATO allied country with the US will probably fire one back and invade them...
Nukes do not win wars.
It’s technically known as MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). Russia would never launch an attack against the US, like the US would not launch one against them. The Kremlin has a direct line to the Whitehouse that is used to discuss issues before they are conceived to be an attack against each other to prevent just this.Quote:
Originally Posted by zJordan
China would follow the same rules, because it’s guaranteed to end with them receiving the same or worst. If you really want to get technical, nobody really refers to them as nuclear weapons anymore, there usually known by the name of nuclear deterrent – Why would you fuck with somebody who has the same weapon to fuck with you.
P.S - Nobody uses nukes to win wars, they use them as a deterrent against war.
Does it actually matter who has more? Both have enough to end all life on the planet, any more is surplus (and probably why they aren't all active warheads for that matter).Quote:
Originally Posted by Delici0us
What we are saying is America spends more on its military. Guns, Planes, Boats, etc etc etc. That is what wars are actually fought with, nuclear weapons tend to just be a deterrence from other people using them.
Plus nukes were the latest tech 50 years ago. I'm sure there are top secret designs for far more powerful weapons, sadly. Humans always want the biggest stick after all!
Also does it mention what yields these nukes are? It could be that the combine yield the US has is higher, therefore more powerful. Not that it'd really matter, unless you live in the suburbs of course. Then you might just get a nice tan, instead of being melted.
Yeah if you read that Wiki article it talks about the US having 'Gravity Bombs' and producing a shit ton of Cruise Missiles. That's just what the public's aware of too, like you've said before, imagine what weapons are out there that they keep hidden that are 1-2~ decades ahead of what we see. Russia has some pretty creepy sounding Military Programs as-well like I believe it was project 'Black Curtain' that was shut down like 20 years ago because it was deemed unsafe and a threat to mankind. Needless to say, like already said before if a World War 3 were to happen it'd probably be the last war/thing we experience considering the merit of technology/weaponry nowadays, you'd have all these Countries siding and using their best weapons against each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
Even without the nukes there would be enough weaponry to cause mass destruction, which, on a kinda unrelated subject is where the NWO comes in to play. With a one world government, there would be no allies or enemies and there wouldn't be the chance of mass destruction due to countries launching devastating attacks at each other. But of-course other problems arise with a 1 world Government, such as complete and total control and power, and everyone knows Power Corrupts - Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.
Wow, this is just ridiculous, there are 10's of thousands of Nuclear Weapons just sitting somewhere dormant. This brings to mind an article I read from a declassified Military Documentary on the History Network, they estimated that there were enough Nuclear Weapons on this planet to engulf the Earth in a blanket of Nuclear Radiation 3 times over. That is over 3 times the amount of radiation that Chernobyl emitted!Quote:
From a high of 65,000 active weapons in 1985, there are now some 4,400 active nuclear warheads and some 19,000 total nuclear warheads in the world in 2012.[2] Many of the decommissioned weapons were simply stored or partially dismantled, not destroyed
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Sorry but do you have a link to something related to Project Black Curtain? I can't find anything about it. :(:
Give me a second I'll see if I can find what I was talking about :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Delici0us
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Well unfortunately after searching through 10+ Google pages I can't find it, (I kinda figured I wouldn't be able to since I originally read about it in 08 in an old 'Secret Military Programs' book at my Library.) But it would help if I could remember the exact name haha I know for sure the Black part is correct because I remember the letters all fancy in Russian, maybe try searching Secret/Declassified Russian Black Projects or something :o
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At the time I believe Russia was just getting into Naval Military usage so this MIGHT (MIGHT, it doesn't have any 'black project' or anything in it which is what I remember) be what I was reading about;
http://www.vincelewis.net/ekranoplan.html
Mmm, while we're on this subject for anyone interested this is also pretty intriguing;
http://listverse.com/2011/06/12/10-s...ence-projects/
I'm fairly sure they attempted at developing SCALAR weapons, although that could be some loony conspiracy theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Justice For All
It would be suicide for Iran to do, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did it.
Transcript of Julian Assange Address to the UN
i just read a nice transcript from jullian assange read it guys he opens some good points about USAespecially how obamma made out like it was all usa involment that made all this arab spring change happen oboma is so full of him self and his israely conterpart but seriously give it a read this man deserves more suuport i know our own country stabed him in back but thats what happens when a cock sucking bitch runs the show
lmao, his pissing me off so much he moves his head so muchhhhhhhhhhhh.
But meh I don't care if they attack Iran. I would be happy to go there and attack em my self.
about Iran : they are in their own country, they do wtf they want in their home
about Israël : they are not in their home, they spoiled it but now they living there & they do wtf they want
Israël strategy : there are only 5 millions Israelians surrounded by +100 millions (200?) muslims (arabs+iranians+kurdish+turkish), thats why they developped nuclear weapons, they have +300 nuclear warheads in a country smaller than a donnut & all this is non-official
Iran strategy : they have gaz & oil, & all western financial group are lobbying against them to make war on them & they knew it, Israël with +300 nuclear warheads is a big threat for them, as for petro-monarchy (Saudi-Arabia, Emirates, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain) which are US allies (US have military bases there), so it's a must for them to develop nuclear power
as already said by some ppl here, nuclear power prevent your country against 'official' attacks (not terrorist attacks)
If western countries have made war against Libya it's because of oil/gaz (a lot of) & because Libya had no nuclear power (same shit for Irak & Afghanistan)
If western countries do nothing about Syria it's because in Syria there are no oil/gaz, so no interest to be involved there
All those shit is just about $$$ & is called 'geo-strategy'
Yeah and talking rabbit aliens did 9/11
One of the Regions you stated above would never attack nor think of attacking Israel. Iraqi region of Kurdistan are in the process of buying biological weapons + nuclear weapons from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by keskia
And dude, Iraq had WMD's (nuclear weapons) before operation iraqi freedom, they destroyed them along time ago.
I don't see Iran attacking the US although that it could be happening but when it comes to Nuclear weapons then US has the most and US is mostly untouchable because obviously when you touch the US You touch many other countries because US and other countries such as The Netherlands have been allied for many years now.