He isn't banned anymore!
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He isn't banned anymore!
whoa excellent!
Awesome. Now someone get that hoe back here!
He is a true Legend, and he deserves this status. I see him everyday on msn..
I don't think he's legendary tbh. :p
well from what i hear he is more legendary then gohan so he probably deserves it
Who ever you heard that from is a jackass.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarPWN
Josh is not even close to become Legendary, He screwed up and brought it on himself.
what about his subscription stat?
Ontop if the fact he was funny and a name that everyone knew (even in the MMO sections), he hosted an RZ server, and wrote ALOT of Guides for a whole range of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Yea i do, and james, havent seen them in a while though but plan to again soon i'll prob host a lan. He will be in the class right next to me for TAFE in about 2 week so i'll see him then, and there's always msn.
IMO, i don't know about you guys, but josh is more of a legend that 90% of the legends now. Why? Well, most/all of them are Legends from 03... There are hardly any of those members around. Do YOU know why DTB is so famous? No? What about Gohan? I know, me neither (actually i do but too early in the morning to name other legends). Yes, they are legendary cos they have been here for that long and and must have done some cool stuff back then, but hardly anyone who is still here today knows what those reasons are cos we weren't there! But Josh on the other hand... EVERYONE knows him. If you joined between 04 and 07 and have ever posted in the General or MU sections, you definitely know who he is. Even if you posted in other sections, you would most probably know him too seeing his guides or having the privilege of being flamed by him for being a retard.Quote:
Originally Posted by omerta
Not saying The current Legends dont deserve their status, they most probably do, but those reasons are from the 03 era back when this forum was only Mir and was probably hosted on Dan's PC. ALOT has changed since then, and imo its time to get some more 04 legends out there... Off the top of my head i know Ionic is an 04 Legend, but what for? See, nobody knows what ANY of the Legends did to get their status, but they all know Josh.
How did he screw up? Do you even know who he is? He was banned for flaming Kaoii and some mods after he decided to leave...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unie
Why? He has a Omega status now doesn't he? There are more subscribers than there are Omega's, also it shows his status as the top posters.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChineseGuy
Just because you don't know him doesn't mean the rest of the forum members don't. Josh was a big part of the community, even though he bent the rules around a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Almost never, yes, but that is only because he has been banned for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Um, hello? Why do you think so many people have voted yes for him becoming a legend? He was a big part of the community.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Oh, now look at that, Josh was unbanned and given another chance to be a part of RZ. His case is no different than yours was.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Last time I checked, people are saying "shame that Josh ain't around anymore."Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Josh did that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Josh did that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
It's not a couple of people that want him back. The community wants him back; the people that were actually around when Josh was around. Him winning the "Most Missed Award" can prove that alone.
I'm going to have to agree with you on that one. I can't name a reason why any of the current legends have their legend status. They were famous for what they did when they were here, let Josh me famous for what he did while he was here. He deserves it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
As for Ionic being a legend, if I recall correctly, Mental opened a thread for legend nominations and people voted for Ionic because he was popular. Most of the people that voted in that thread didn't even know him, but they knew his name. That is what being a legend is all about. People still knowing your name once you are no longer here.
For massive amounts of moderating work, GMing, thinking of cool stuff for RZ and basicly having posted countless of fun topics and comments.Quote:
Do YOU know why DTB is so famous?
You don't? I'm still moderating, so was DTB until recently, we never stopped contributing to this site. Besides if taking pictures of MentaL in bed with another man is not Legendary enough, then what is. ;)Quote:
Yes, they are legendary cos they have been here for that long and and must have done some cool stuff back then, but hardly anyone who is still here today knows what those reasons are cos we weren't there!
I honestly don't know why he is either, i'm not really sure what he did to deserve it, but that aside. Just because any of the current members don't know it, doesn't make them any less of a Legend. Yeah some people don't know i was a Admin, yes some people don't know that i've moderated on this site together for over 2 years, but then again, how many people know what Josh has done for this site, or you, or pretty much anyone that hasn't hold a moderator rank recently. Now the thing is that very few know what Josh has done, even among the staff, but i'm pretty sure that most of them know what i've done.Quote:
Off the top of my head i know Ionic is an 04 Legend, but what for? See, nobody knows what ANY of the Legends did to get their status, but they all know Josh.
Exy been around the whole time, and i wouldn't be surprised if he has held a staff position the longest time, and he doesn't think he deserves it.
This has nothing to do with Josh himself, it's not that he's not liked or anything like that, it's just that he ain't a Legend, and basicly to be one you need to hold a Smod position or a Mod position for a long time and do shitloads of work, people like myself and DTB have done that. But yeah we do have "Legends" who haven't done that, and yet have the rank, and that is unfair, but we do have quite a lot of Legends who do deserve it, who have done a lot for this site. For example DeadlyEagle, how many of you know him? Probably almost none, but this guy was extremely important, he did shitloads of work on the Mir2 server back in the day, he made that server fun, he made people come to this site, so not only did he do lots of work for RZ, but (to use Exy's words) he also changed the face of RZ, he got us lots of members, he got us fame.
So when people prefer Josh over DeadlyEagle, then i say fuck that, Josh never really did anything to deserve it, while DE did.
So Legends to me are those people who didn't went the extra mile, but the extra 10 miles.
I know Josh, i just don't know what he did to deserve Legend.Quote:
Just because you don't know him doesn't mean the rest of the forum members don't. Josh was a big part of the community, even though he bent the rules around a lot.
I been banned longer and more, yet my name kept popping up. Basicly if your name never pops up, then you ain't a Legend.Quote:
Almost never, yes, but that is only because he has been banned for so long.
Because they don't understand how the Legend rank works. Yes he was a big part of it, but what did he besides that? All Legends were/are a big part of the community, but almost all of them did something that made them deserve that rank, moderating for a long time, server hosting etc, these people spend massive amounts of time to create a better RZ for you. I don't remember Josh doing that. And that's absolutely fine, but it doesn't get him Legend.Quote:
Um, hello? Why do you think so many people have voted yes for him becoming a legend? He was a big part of the community.
Well i was actually unbanned by Kaoii who swore i would never be unbanned again, that's definetly more impressive imo. ;)Quote:
Oh, now look at that, Josh was unbanned and given another chance to be a part of RZ. His case is no different than yours was.
Not to mention it was like my 10th unban on this account. :P
Only because a select few are bumping topics or starting 1 about him like this.Quote:
Last time I checked, people are saying "shame that Josh ain't around anymore."
And hey, i'm 1 of those aswell, but fact is that if you hadn't started this topic, then i would have never said it. But i still say that it's a shame that people like Capricorn ain't around anymore, and i don't need a topic about him to say that. And yes i've said this quite a few times, we even talked about him at the RaGEPARTY. Then again Cap is a true Legend.
And yet i don't know it, neither does Exy.Quote:
Josh did that.
Josh is a user, just like most of you, he was a good user, just like most of you, but to be a Legend you need to have given more then that. I've litteraly spend over a thousand hours just moderating this site. I'm currently taking a break, but now when i come home i easily spend a hour cleaning up shit. That's the kind of work that you get Legend status for, not messing around in your free time when you feel like it.
Being an smod or Mod for long period of time should not be any sort of indication if they are legendary or not. Josh was a mod for about 14-15 months, i was a mod for 11 months. That cannot be used as an indication... look at Madison, she somehow got smod in about 4 months. And none of the mods these days not knowing what josh did is not a good excuse cos look at their join date, 1/2 of them joined when he wasn't here and the other 1/2 after he got banned. Mods these days are just random people, nobody even knows who they are. Being a moderator can't be a prerequisite.
His MMO guides? Everything he did for the MMO community let alone the general one... he has done more than 1/2 the legends.
Josh was a mod for less then a year. I have to honestly say that i don't know how much he did, fact is that we have lots of mods right now that been moderating for over a year, but they don't do enough to get the Legend rank. You have to understand that the work that some of the "hardcore" mods do in a week, is the amount of work that most mods do in a few months. That's not because they're lazy btw, but just because they don't have a lot of work to do.
I do get what you mean, Josh does deserve it more then quite a few people that have it right now, but imo they don't deserve it. And yeah that is unfair, maybe he will become one, but like with those others, i'm against it, and that's what the polls says "do you think he deserves it".
well, he is now unbanned. he either needs to be omega or have his (L)sub back, i feel proud to have been a part of getting josh unbanned.
No he was mod for more than a year. I was mod from September to August (hence 11 months) and he was mod for about 2/3 months after that.
Ok maybe he did not do enough to earn himself legendary status, but as long as we are in agreement that he deserves it more than most of the current Legends, that makes him a legend to us.
The poll was obviously never to make him a legend because like i said straight from the get-go, it is only Dan's and smod's decisions (though with Madison being so new i think it should only be Dan and Ex's decision). But i only wanted to argue the principals behind the decision and to see if people really did want him to be a Legend.
FYI Gohan, During our time, I was the mod with the most mod actions and josh was about 2nd or 3rd. Still way up there.
tbh gohan when you were banned you didnt contribute or did shit either you flamed and shitted on the forums
Uh. No. Being a gigantic spammer doesn't make you a legend.
I've definetly did my share of crapping this forum.
He either didn't post for the first few or last months, or he was a mod for about 10-11 months.Quote:
No he was mod for more than a year. I was mod from September to August (hence 11 months) and he was mod for about 2/3 months after that.
I wouldn't say most, a lot of ex-smods among them that did lots of work, but he definetly deserves it more then about 1/3rd of them.Quote:
Ok maybe he did not do enough to earn himself legendary status, but as long as we are in agreement that he deserves it more than most of the current Legends, that makes him a legend to us.
Obviously MentaL can choose when he wants, but basicly the choice is an agreement between people who can really judge about it, basicly the people who has done what and all that and understand what the requirements are. Ofcourse opinions differ, some believe that all the current Legends deserve it and i'm sure also believe that people like Josh deserves it, others don't.Quote:
The poll was obviously never to make him a legend because like i said straight from the get-go, it is only Dan's and smod's decisions (though with Madison being so new i think it should only be Dan and Ex's decision).
It's hard really because you do make a good argument and it's not that fair that people like Josh and yourself (you're a important member aswell) did quite a lot more then some of the Legends, yet don't receive it.
This does deserve some more attention to sort it out. I'll get some attention on this subject in the staff forum and see how it goes.
I spoke to Josh on msn and he asks if Exy or Mental could change his email to jtaylor231@gmail.com since he doesn't remember his password.
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jtaylor231@gmail.com zegt:
post in the spamzilla thread about me being a legend (which i don't want to be) if a s.mod or mental can please change my email to jtaylor231@gmail.com since i can't remember my password lol.
I say give him legend once he's come back and setteled in, when people know him again then he should get it.
yay, josh is coming
Lawl hardly, i modded Evo for a while and made rules for about 4 sections... It was fun and wish i could have continued, but quit due to differences i had with Kaoii, and he somehow made people believe that i was untrustworthy hence ruining my chances of being mod again.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Don't see how what i did can compare with mods of MMO sections who make Guides, release server files, and everything.
Well you and Ex himself said it's not gonna happen so don't see the point but do it if you want o.O Doubt Dan will remove some people from Legends just cos now, months later, people are questioning if they deserve it. Though then again i was also wrong about Kaoii ever getting banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Delete the legend rank tbfh
Or make it for people who have permanently left RZ and are no longer active... forever immortalizing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfons