Keep Virgin from destroying the internet...

More infomation. If VM are talking about TV like it seems they are (and yes I am on the Internet TV trial) then YES the BBC should pay for them to air there programs via there BB service, like any other company that would be showing it would. The BBC takes money from us so we can veiw it, why should we pay?

Taken from Virgin Media mops up CEO's 'boll*cks' outburst | The Register

Virgin Media (VM) today moved to calm fears that it will start throttling web video from providers who refuse to hand over a levy to deliver their content.

A spokesman for the firm said it does not intend to hinder access to content providers who do not pay. Rather, VM could offer content providers deals to upgrade their provisioning if they want to ensure best access to to broadband subscribers.


The BBC already does that via direct peering with the VM network, to offer faster iPlayer access. That link sees no money change hands. "It could be argued that that's a non-neutral solution," the spokesman said.

VM said it would not seek to press others to follow suit by interfering with its customers' link to the wider internet. "We strongly support the principle that the internet should remain a space that is open to all and we have not called for content providers to pay for distribution," its statement said.

"However, we recognise that as more customers turn to the web for content different providers will have different needs and priorities and, in the long term, it's legitimate to question how this demand will be managed. We welcome an informed debate on this issue."

Speculation of a bid by VM to squeeze cash from content provders has been sparked by comments made by CEO Neil Berkett, reported by the Royal Television society magazine. "This network neutrality thing is a load of bollocks," Television said he charged at a conference in February.

Berkett reportedly said video providers who don't pay for technical ways around the congestion on the wider internet might effectively end up in slow "bus lanes". That comment has been seized upon by net neutrality advocates as evidence of a conspiracy to turn the screws on the BBC and other broadcasters.

VM's spokesman said Berkett's statements had been taken out of context, insisting: "We're not suggesting there will be any denial of access to those who don't want to pay."

The firm currently operates bandwidth throttling at peak times, but unlike many other ISPs does not use deep packet inspection technology to single out classes of traffic, such as peer-to-peer. The heaviest five per cent of users are simply slowed down across the board.

The cable firm today argued that its upcoming 50MBit/s network upgrade makes it well placed to serve the boom in internet video, whether big providers want to get involved in network issues or not. Other ISPs led by Tiscali, who buy bandwidth from BT, have called on the BBC to help pay for the cost of distributing shows online.

Tiscali's stance has invoked anger from broadband subscribers who rightly blame the internet industry for years of false marketing of "unlimited" packages, all the while introducing ever-more stringent traffic management policies in the background.

Yet it seems increasingly clear that someone's going to pay the price for the UK's lack of investment in a modern internet infrastructure. We suspect you can draw your own conclusions as to who it's looking like that'll be.

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Save the Internet

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and we live in a time where we can so easily educate others on what is going on we cannot be held resposible for letting this happen



you are obviously an idiot, don't you realise the internet is the modern day great library?

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Again, you should know, with such a big mass of money and power backing a cause/idea, and the media on their side, it is very hard to convince people differently, than what they've been told.

This would have to be the one of the stupidest ideas I've heard in a long time. Don't they realize how many people will just say no to their bull crap?

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This would have to be the one of the stupidest ideas I've heard in a long time. Don't they realize how many people will just say no to their bull crap?

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Having said this, there are still a great many people out there, who will not fully understand what is going on,therefore won't be able to speak against it.

True, and I wonder roughly how many people would speak out against it.

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True, and I wonder roughly how many people would speak out against it.

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Alot of people will. It wont pass. but it is possible, being how big VM is. they are clearly a threat to the internet users. Like dan said. We can stop it. Just have to get the word around :wink_7:

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True, and I wonder roughly how many people would speak out against it.

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What about a boycott against all virgin media. We just stop buying what there selling.

The net neutrality movement has been going on for a while now if you use google you can find if your local representative supports net neutrality is against it, or hasn't made up his mind on it, as well as send them a letter or email to state that your for net neutrality.




And oh ya,,,, and if that fails and your goverment tells these isps its ok that they throttle and control there users internet access than there's always armed rebellion.

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What about a boycott against all virgin media. We just stop buying what there selling.

The net neutrality movement has been going on for a while now if you use google you can find if your local representative supports net neutrality is against it, or hasn't made up his mind on it, as well as send them a letter or email to state that your for net neutrality.




And oh ya,,,, and if that fails and your goverment tells these isps its ok that they throttle and control there users internet access than there's always armed rebellion.

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Armed Rebellion, lmao. Riots everywhere. i may send a letter to the state. I am building a site. i dont want my users and viewers acess to be limmited to my content..

that would be Unjust. The internet is the ultimate, Freedom of speech. Religion ect. Lets not let that get taken away.

Our internet bill for this month has risen a lot, as i've noticed, wow Richard Branson is one greedy fuck, he owns the Virgin Islands which are worth lots and lots of money, and anyway..he's loaded why is
he after more money? ffs, i hate people like that.

Virgin just needs to go die in a corner of unwanted-ness.
or get laid. One of them is good.

all out,
Grey

can they do this? wont they get sued by like everybody else? i dont think its gonna happen.there are bigger companies that can do more, and will.