You're a fucking moron. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
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You're a fucking moron. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
Oh really? Did you pick your president because you know him? no you didnt, you picked him because the media made him look like a butterfly, and what'd bush do? he fucked you and america in the ass. Waste of young american soldiers because he claimed there were WMD's in Iraq, all the american army found there was death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon
Did you see me say that none did? I didn't say that.. It's true that some political leaders and a lot of people have left the country in those days.. But as i said none of my ancesters.. The majority of the people stayed in Belgium, k? Also, most people who left never came back..Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
As i said.. you really don't know what you are talking about..
EDIT: oh by the way, first you talk about the 2nd world war, then you talk about the first world war.. ?
1. I do not have a president in my country.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
2. Atrocious use of punctuation, listen in school.
3. Just because you have a president doesn't make the government a dictatorship, infact VERY far from it.
This people, this right here is why it boils down to me just calling people simple moronic tards, because the best you can hope for around here is a 14 year old that has a basic grasp of what 'politics' is defined as, no true understanding. It's an absolute mockery, a joke, sometimes funny or in this case rather worrying. It makes me wonder about the state of education in some countries, imagine these kids, they will grow up, we will have to work with them, they will be considered citizens, in a democracy they will be responsible for casting votes....and it is us educated few that will have to live in shame and bother to clean up their mess for them whilst they insert crayons into their nasal passages for entertainment.
I can't agree more :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon
Way to go off-topic,
and the fleeing happened in both world wars.
Absolute nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon
so? you are still wrong kid..Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
and by the way, most of the fleeing happened in WW1, in WW2, Hitler did a "Blitzkrieg" .. that also means they took Belgium in a really short time.. so before there was even time to flee most of the country was already taken over by the Germans..
Not saying none have left.. but less then in WW1..
Just give it up dude.. you are wrong
Right now you are yabbing a pile of nonsense in a mediocre attempt to escape argumentation after i have proven your dumb statements incredibly wrong. And the most funny part of all this is, we both weren't born during both of those wars, not even near birth.Quote:
Originally Posted by bramdebouvere
infact, not even during the cold war, yet you seem to know little about your country.
WHAT?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
The only one making dumb statements all the time here is you kid.. And yes we weren't born.. But are you saying that what they teached us in my schools and what my greatparents tell me is WRONG? That all history books are wrong?
You're telling me that you know more about my country then myself? You? A dutch muslim?
Get a life lol.. Nothing of what i posted was nonsense.. Go and read some books instead of talking crap about things you don't know shit about..
I can assure you that my collection of foreign literature is bigger then your bedroom.Quote:
Originally Posted by bramdebouvere
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Said the guy that isn't even IN the discussion and seems to only come on random times and make random posts and insults to posters in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramuthra
Then i suggest you start reading some instead of acting like you know everything..Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
EDIT: and ramuthra is right about you, you act like a 12y old
Yes, maybe when I 'grow up' like Ragezone forums users Canon and Ramuthra I will finally be enlightened enough to talk of 'dicksucks' and 'assholes', and use basic words such as 'disillusioned' incorrectly. Perhaps I will support book burnings and voice my support for illegal wars in the Middle East; both certain indicators of maturity and rational thought. I hope I will be able to haphazardly interject into internet debates and contribute nothing but insults while failing to make a coherent point. Yes, I can hardly wait to 'grow up'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramuthra
I don't usually like to be condescending, but the chances are fairly good that I am older than you, more experienced and more educated. So if you wish to make some kind of point, you're going to have to try a lot harder than this.
You just destroyed yourself with another mediocre paragraph of supposedly trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramuthra
The only actual mature step left to do is:
- Stop going off-topic and return back to the topic.
You want to brag about your age? I laugh at your actual maturity, you find it mature to make dumb retarded remarks of racism and discrimination and then say that what i say doesn't matter because of my age? My actual age is 16, 16 and aware of what is going on in the world. Yours may be older but it seems that you are blind. You talk alot of bullshit for a fat guy on a chair perspective.
That would be, if it were true, the very opposite of disillusioned. I suggest looking the word up before you make yourself look even more ridiculous. I am a fully grown adult; believe me, I am more than clued up on the way this world works and that is precisely WHY I oppose such silly things as book burnings. They are a refuge of the primitive and the ignorant (this means you).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramuthra
Can we get off the lame ass debate shit and start talking about the epic book burning that is going to happen in the very near future?
18hrs left,Quote:
Originally Posted by jMerliN
Right now all we can DO is WAIT lol.
It's this kind of bullshit that we need to get rid of.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
You are trying to justify killing innocent lifes. Under no circumstances can this be justified. If they were to hit military targets then yeah, maybe it can be justified, I don't know, but attacking innocent people is not acceptable, no matter who does it and just because 1 side has done it, doesn't mean you can do it to others.
The attack on the WTC was a terrorist attack, as simple as that.
And I'm not even going to bothered watching that video, but let me tell you this, any song that is aimed at the death of any country, race, religion or anything like that, is unacceptable in my eyes.
This is a very limited and simplistic view. In the Netherlands for example almost everyone was rooting for Obama, not because he was black, but because he's a liberal. We as a country prefer liberals as president of the US. Now you might think, who cares, but if the US was constantly governed by republicans, then Europe etc would eventually get fed up with the US and distance themselves from the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon
South Park had a episode about this
While it's obviously over the top, the truth isn't far from it.Quote:
CARTMAN
I learned somethin' today. This country
was founded by some of the smartest
thinkers the world has ever seen. And
they knew one thing: that a truely great
country can go to war, and at the same
time, act like it doesn't want to.
You people who are for the war, you
need the protesters. Because they make
the country look like it's made of sane,
caring individuals. And you people who
are anti-war, you need these flag-wavers,
because, if our whole country was made
up of nothing but soft pussy protesters,
we'd get taken down in a second. That's
why the founding fathers decided we
should have both. It's called "having
your cake and eating it too."
RANDY
He's right. The strength of this country
is the ability to do one thing and say
another.
SKEETER
Yeah, but... if it weren't for all you
guys protesting, why everyone around
the world would hate the American people
instead of just the President.
KYLE'S FATHER
And if it weren't for you people flexing
your arms, America could easily get
taken over by terrorists or... or China.
Presidents are voted into office. And yes, you can argue that due to the power of all the huge companies there that they influence who are the candidates and due to basicly 2 parties there isn't much choice, but still, it's still democracy, there is no other way it works, popularity will always play a huge rule, it can't be removed from the proces.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
Besides plenty of countries with various parties in their parlement and where there is much less influence on the candidates etc, are around who have presidents.
Christianity has violent texts spreading hate, murder etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by bramdebouvere
Christianity has a long history with sex with minors. Hell the catholic church prides themselves on it...
Most Muslims don't know it by heart, and many who do still interpret parts differently or ignore them.
Christianity has had major power in most western countries for a very long time.
Americans do whine when they burn a American flag.
There is just not that much difference between the 2, the biggest difference is that Christian nations are for the most part ahead of Islamic nations, but attacking them on things that these Christian nations did aswell 50-100 years ago, is just ignorant. Instead they should be given time and see if they also adjust to it. Remember, 50 years ago everything and everyone was pretty isolated, in the last 10-20 years we as a planet have had a much wider communication due to the internet. Seeing their evolution over time, seeing the change in countries such as Turkey, makes me believe that things will change, we just shouldn't be forcing it down their throats.
And how do you think the world will improve with this kind of crap?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
It's despicable that you people actually believe a few lives are worth more than freedom of speech.
Did you ever have religion in school? Why is the Qu'Ran so important for muslims?Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
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YUSUFALI: Say: "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support.
You can't find ANYTHING like that in the Bible. Nobody wrote the Bible. It was written down by anonymous people. The Bible is not the literal words of God. Really, you don't know shit about the Qu'Ran or the Bible so gtfo this thread.Quote:
YUSUFALI: And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true.
PICKTHAL: And if ye are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a surah of the like thereof, and call your witness beside Allah if ye are truthful.
SHAKIR: And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a chapter like it and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful.
And if you click on those small numbers next to it you will be linked directly to verses in the English interpretation of the Qu'Ran. Not good enough for you? Go learn Arabic.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
Never said the Qu'Ran is more violent than the Bible. Not once. Straw man. I've said that the Qu'Ran has a serious issue in that it has a status as words of God himself, as if it was not written by a human being but by something divine, and that in the book there are some seriously fucked up ideals that don't fit with today's society.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
The Qu'Ran cannot be translated into any language according to Muslim belief. It can only be interpreted. It has stayed the same since it was written. The Bible is just a collection of texts some king decided fit together nicely, and more things have been added and removed from it later. Really, it's pretty much random.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
When a society is based on a book, and the book contain explicit recommendations and rules, the book will have enormous impact on the individuals in the society. After all, that's its function.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
The World and the ideal way to live as changed over the last 1400 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
Where did zionists come from? Has this become a term for evil people? Do you even know what zionism is?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
I'm not UK, and Israel accepted Palestinians living there. They did however not accept Palestinians killing and harassing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
Also, the Palestinians didn't have their own country. They relied on the UK, like parasites. I do agree that the UK did a bad decision giving Israel to the Jews.
Zionists have done something for the World. These Palestinians haven't done shit but whine.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
He did it because an Imam got scared and promised to help him stop the building of the Mosque close to Ground Zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil[]Power
You want me to explain religions to you now?Quote:
Did you ever have religion in school? Why is the Qu'Ran so important for muslims?
I've quoted parts of the Bible, what was written there was pretty clear.Quote:
You can't find ANYTHING like that in the Bible. Nobody wrote the Bible. It was written down by anonymous people. The Bible is not the literal words of God. Really, you don't know shit about the Qu'Ran or the Bible so gtfo this thread.
If you indeed wish to argue that not everything is correct about the Bible, then we might aswell throw it out, which is fine by me btw, I don't care about any religion either way, just aslong people stop blaming complete groups of people just because they follow the same religion as extremists.
Btw I am missing your point here, because what exactly are you trying to proof here? That the Bible is bullshit? Or that parts of it is bullshit and thus the right parts makes Christianity better then Islam, or whatever?
As to what I know about either books, enough to know that when people attack either for their texts, that it goes for the other 1 aswell. Christianity and Islam is much more alike as people want to admit.
And Christians say that those who have written parts of the Bible wrote down the words of God. What you are basicly saying is that the way it's written annoys you. Dude this is not a movie where you didn't like the director...Quote:
Never said the Qu'Ran is more violent than the Bible. Not once. Straw man. I've said that the Qu'Ran has a serious issue in that it has a status as words of God himself, as if it was not written by a human being but by something divine, and that in the book there are some seriously fucked up ideals that don't fit with today's society.
I don't see how they are wrong about that. The way I see it is that with any text that you translate, some of the meaning gets lost, we are talking about a holy book where every sentence holds some meaning, by translating some of that is lost. Again, this goes for all texts etc.Quote:
The Qu'Ran cannot be translated into any language according to Muslim belief. It can only be interpreted.
Well i think it's dumb we agrue about this crap cause it's canceld already and nothing is really going to change but if they burn the Qu'Ran it would be stupid cause some Muslims are really sensitive i'd bet if a muslim burned the bible people will get mad to and do dumb things but this is all a power willing belive disgution because the Christians want to be more inportant than the Muslims i know they want that and i geuss the other way around too but it's all about a book whit our believes in it wich some of us live by and i respect that but the dumbest thing ever is disrespecting each others believes this just should stop and won't worry about this there are other races and other believes and if you don't like it learn to like it cause it always will be like this and if you want to kill the believe + the people who believe in it, Nice going wanna-be hitler what happend again wont happen twice cause i don't think every thing about disrespecting each other is really stupid i live in Holland were alot of muli-cultural people are and we learned to live whit this and we got it all good nothing strange is going around here ofcourse there are some things that aren't good but well live isn't perfect but this is just dumb. i think a moderator should close this thread and stop all the hassle about this i know it's freedom of speach but out of this people will get fights and i know alot of turkish and other people whit other believes that i don't like but it's not because they are turkish or whatever but what they do cause when a Dutch person does something to me i don't like it either so a muslim can get in my face and say something stupid to me and i get mad but that counts to ever dutch person too i we are all diffrent and don't say it's not like that it is what it is and we can't change things cause if we were all the same and we would to all the same things together and you get communism wich is stupid cause people make mistakes and that's how we are ment to be so if you disagree whit this that's fine you can think diffrent cause if you do that means you're perfect cause you think for yourself and for your own believes
I just wanted to put this out here and my grammers sucks i know just put some thought in this
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That's just perfect :PQuote:
Originally Posted by KyleEnos
Yup, a picture is worth a thousand words. Sadly, in this thread a word isn't worth a word.Quote:
Originally Posted by joellol
[quote=GohanSSJ;5899938]You want me to explain religions to you now?
I've quoted parts of the Bible, what was written there was pretty clear.
If you indeed wish to argue that not everything is correct about the Bible, then we might aswell throw it out, which is fine by me btw, I don't care about any religion either way, just aslong people stop blaming complete groups of people just because they follow the same religion as extremists.
Christianity and Islam both has the same foundation. They believe in the same God. The difference lies in how they are practiced. Islam has a very strict set of rules. They can't change it. Christianity has changed every time someone felt like changing it over the past 2000 years. I do not deny that there are a lot of negative things about Christianity. I am not a Christian myself. But Christianity is a religion that centers around the individual, unlike Islam which centers around society. Christianity can be interpreted and practiced in pretty much any way a person wants, Islam can't. Therefore Islam hinders societal development a lot more than any religion does.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
The Bible is a compilation of texts. After the introduction of the New Testament, much of the Old Testament's teachings became obsolete. It's a true chaos. Through chaos there is freedom.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
The Qu'Ran was written in Arabic. Technically, it cannot be translated because Muslims believe the words are divine and written in such a way that it cannot be imitated or be properly translated into other languages. Therefore English translations should only be treated as interpretations. A lot of Muslims learn Arabic because of this very reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
This discussion is interesting, but shouldn't be in The Outerworld. We should probably just stop it here and now. I think I worded myself very poorly and came off as far more aggressive than I should have.
A shame that pastor backed down, I was hoping to hear the screams of tormented fools.
It doesn't. Like I said before, take a look at Turkey, they've been becoming more and more western.Quote:
Christianity and Islam both has the same foundation. They believe in the same God. The difference lies in how they are practiced. Islam has a very strict set of rules. They can't change it. Christianity has changed every time someone felt like changing it over the past 2000 years. I do not deny that there are a lot of negative things about Christianity. I am not a Christian myself. But Christianity is a religion that centers around the individual, unlike Islam which centers around society. Christianity can be interpreted and practiced in pretty much any way a person wants, Islam can't. Therefore Islam hinders societal development a lot more than any religion does.
As for changing it, why should it be changed, if God is all knowing, then why would his words be any less true today. If anything, the Islam atleast keeps things as they were intended, the interpretation should however change and that has, hence by far the majority of Muslims are not terrorists trying to execute the litteral words in the Qu'ran.
Yes quite a few countries who can be considered Muslim countries do need to evolve, but like I said, take a look at western countries 50-100 years ago. The way I see it, aslong as they are making progress and the majority does not want war or anything like that, then they should be free to evolve in a way they feel comfortable with.
But God is all knowing, meaning the old testament is either full of lies, or God is not all knowing. Either way Christians should accept the old testament as real, or find themselves a new religion, because if some of it is fake, all of it could be.Quote:
The Bible is a compilation of texts. After the introduction of the New Testament, much of the Old Testament's teachings became obsolete. It's a true chaos. Through chaos there is freedom.
Which makes sense. I mean I hate Dutch subtitles, I haven't needed them for a long time, but back when I did, I always prefered English subtitles, when you are watching a comedy, then when it gets translated you will miss puns or you will get different jokes etc, because a literal translation doesn't work.Quote:
The Qu'Ran was written in Arabic. Technically, it cannot be translated because Muslims believe the words are divine and written in such a way that it cannot be imitated or be properly translated into other languages. Therefore English translations should only be treated as interpretations. A lot of Muslims learn Arabic because of this very reason.
Now imagine a holy book, if it gets translated then it can never be as accurate as the original and if you believe those are the words of God, do you really want someone else to translate it? Or do you want the actual words.
Time to bring in another important fact that we all seem to overlook,
This isnt just about the burning of books, it is about the counter attack to that, and the counter attack to the counterattack and the attack against and so the road goes ever on.
Retaliation.
Burn a holy book, get yours burned. Burn a Mosque, get yours burned. Burn a muslim, get yourself burned who knows till where it goes on. It wouldn't be the first time that such events take place.
What is the actual essence of this event, to cause hate, what does hate cause? violence.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...arsonists.html
Turkey is actually a really secular country. It is not an Islamic country like Pakistan, Iran or Saudi-Arabia. They work hard to avoid having Islamic influence on their politics, despite the large Muslim population.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
[quote=GohanSSJ;5900049]But God is all knowing, meaning the old testament is either full of lies, or God is not all knowing. Either way Christians should accept the old testament as real, or find themselves a new religion, because if some of it is fake, all of it could be.
Some of the reason Christ came was to introduce a new concept to the religion; forgive and retribution. Most, if not all, of God's vile actions in the Old Testament was revenge for something. When Christ came, he preached of forgiving the sinner.
Yeah, it makes sense. But that also means that the Qu'Ran today is the exact same Qu'Ran as 1400 years ago, and society has developed a lot since then. This was before globalization, the Internet and international laws against war crimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
In the civilized world we have realized that revenge solves nothing. We shouldn't fear violence for using our freedom of speech. That's the difference between us and you, and it is why our society has managed to develop better.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
[quote=Mr.Lucifer;5900146]Turkey is actually a really secular country. It is not an Islamic country like Pakistan, Iran or Saudi-Arabia. They work hard to avoid having Islamic influence on their politics, despite the large Muslim population.
Burning holy buildings and books is not speech anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Speech is words, this is acting, an act of violence.
Freedom of speech is synonymous with freedom of expression, which includes non-violent acts such as flag and book burning.
And mosque burning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer
Burning mosques go under violent act or vandalism. Let's try to use our brains.
Which seems to be the next step.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer
My point exactly.Quote:
Turkey is actually a really secular country. It is not an Islamic country like Pakistan, Iran or Saudi-Arabia. They work hard to avoid having Islamic influence on their politics, despite the large Muslim population.
They have a seperation of church and state, yet it's obviously a Islamic country, just like how most, if not all, of the western countries are Christian, especially countries like the US. While a religion might not govern directly anymore, those in charge are largely Christian not to mention that whether people are Christian or not, it has influenced us all.
Our version of freedom now (go through the history books and you will see a lot of claims of freedom which we wouldn't consider as freedom today), is spreading, but it takes time, it will eventually reach the whole world. But you can't expect countries in the middle east to just switch around, their culture is different to ours, they will eventually change, but not by force.
Again, Turkey is a good example of that, due to their position they have become more western much faster then other countries, you can also see a difference between the western side of it and the east side.
But like I said, God is all knowing and good. Besides if I'm not mistaken the new testament still speaks of hell etc for those that do not believe in him.Quote:
Some of the reason Christ came was to introduce a new concept to the religion; forgive and retribution. Most, if not all, of God's vile actions in the Old Testament was revenge for something. When Christ came, he preached of forgiving the sinner.
And like I said, Islamic countries have grown with it, changing their ways and interpretations.Quote:
Yeah, it makes sense. But that also means that the Qu'Ran today is the exact same Qu'Ran as 1400 years ago, and society has developed a lot since then. This was before globalization, the Internet and international laws against war crimes.
Turkey is not Islamic. There are just a lot of Muslims living there although the Muslims who live in Turkey are far more "Muslim by tradition" than in the other Muslim countries. Turkey has an unique history that permits such secularity.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
It's naive to believe that the way we have developed into freedom is the only way to develop. That every civilization will eventually become like us. While I do agree that forcing into developing usually ends badly, it is some times the only option. Islamic countries are becoming a threat to our freedom.
On the contrary, Pakistan still cannot take up loans they desperately needs because Islam forbids paying interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
He's talking perfect sense, even in this very quote you are using words you clearly don't know the definition of, jus throwing them out there and hoping it means something.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
I say it again, you are a moron.
You tend to join in again with your random remarks while your not even attending the actual subject?Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon
We are so far from the subject now it is laughable.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
Here's something for you to think about. This world is full of assholes and idiots, this sort of thing is going to happen, and it's going to happen alot. If you are so offended by it, feel free to leave, as in, /suicide.
Don't come onto a forum and just talk shit. Go be miserable by yourselves and let the rest of us get on with life and stop being such arrogant whiney little pricks.
Brings me back to stating that you are talking out of a fatman on a chair perspective, not to forget, you mentioned that your country had no president, aka your not even in the US, and you don't seem to be muslim either, brings me back to:Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon
"Randomly making remarks about both parties in an attempt to troll while not even being a part of the subject of conversation;
So you're saying you have to belong to one of the groups to partake in the discussion? Really, EnchanceGFX, stop debating. You can't do it. The reason Internet debates can be interesting is that people from all kind of backgrounds join together without a predetermined opinion, allowing far more diversity in the debate. That is something you as a Muslim wouldn't understand because Muslims don't care about anything but issues involving Islam.
And FYI: I'm a Norwegian and a non-Muslim so I am as ineligible as Canon.
Yet happens to be so that you search and post decent things worth reading and replying to, and it happens to be that you know what you are talking of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer
That is the only difference sufficient to make a difference and kill your argument.
LOL, did he just say this? Canon knows, trust me.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhanceGFX
If he "Knows" then he should start acting like he knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinija
A lot? 99% of their people is registered as Muslim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer
And no, they won't become like us, every culture is unique, that includes all the western countries, however they will eventually fit more into what we see as normal, the same goes for countries like China etc.
They all just need to grow.
If you actually do believe they are becoming a threat, then I suggest you take God's word litteraly and start murdering them all...
If not, then give them the room to grow just like we did, western countries have a history of blood, murder, intolerance, slavery etc etc, what makes you so sure they won't grow like we did?
what religion is china anyway?
Looks like the largest religion there is Buddhism, however there is no accurate amount of how many people follow it, estimates are between 10 and 30%.
Actually Spain was also a Muslim country before.
on the military end of this, intel reports (along with common sense) that those radicals who will take part in burning the Qur'an, those Islam radicals who will witness it will make an example of them.
They want us to act like this to give them a reason to blow us all up. If you're a civilian and you're a little worried, imagine being the Marines who will go to fight the hornet's nest of radials head-on.
Also I would like to point out that if the debate starts to end up being two people arguing over posts not related to the subject that entitles this thread, please re-frame from your immaturity it's just a forum. My comment is about such arguments is not up for debate. no pun intended.
Osama biladin is a fkin terrorist bitch ass, he is bring shit to muslims. He probably thinks he will fking go to heaven with the stuff he does, blow up innocent people and collapsing down buildings, he is probably brainly fked up and this is not even allowed in our religion (islam), killing people for no shit will be going to hell 100% sure. Look at people in pakistan, growing weed and making drugs to sell it to get money to buy weapons to kill american troops or w/e. this is not even something to be proud of and they expect there self to be blessed by god for doing this, its bull shit and crap, sometimes i feel this religion is fking people's brain and making arab people unable to develop because people are making shit out of there mind but i don't even give a shit about what they say, any way i can't leave this religion cz my life later on will probably be fked up..
Me and my friend where discussing what is written on the quran and what is written in bible book, actually there was no difference, the only difference is that in quran its forbidden'd to eat ham and to gamble. I believe this rules was also in the bible but old priests changed probably like everything and which makes it hard for some people believe that a religion like islam exists and a prophet called Mohammed exsits, since it was removed from the bible. Christians has no problems against Muslims until Osama fked up all of our societies, the most racist people to arabs and muslims are jewish people. Which i mostly don't like them cz they judge people on crap.
Probably if i know Osama biladin's place, i would fking report you think i will give a shit?
Muslims will not take any action if they burn the Quran not that they will take the bible and burn it. ofc not cz its a religion and it is probably the most fked up thing you will do and you will be fked badly at judgment day, it will just lead to more political problems.
You obviously don't know shit, I would give my two cents but who gives a crap what I have to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoeZe
that does make no sense, if Muslims didn't care about anything in islam, they would probably not be called Muslims. I don't expect anything less from a guy calls his name Lucifer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer
You judge someone by his forum name? Intresting.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoeZe
The name that you pick shows your personality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinija
Ridiculous, Shinija shows nothing personality wise. We're going offtopic and I dont want to argue with your ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoeZe
Your going off topic too, no1 asked you how i judge people? so you can stfu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinija
Rhetorical question, Is this what this forum has succumbed too? Big time morons who doesn't have a clue what they are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoeZe
If you'd like you can pm me MoeZe.
The hell are you saying?..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Lucifer