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    Grand Master gReGiTh is offline
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    LHC Activation

    CERN is going to activate the Large Hadron Collider in 5 hours and 14 minutes.

    There could theoretically be catastrophic implications of this activation.

    Micro black hole escaping from a particle accelerator

    There is a theoretical possibility that a micro black hole might be created inside a particle accelerator.[65] Formation of black holes under these conditions (below the Planck energy) requires non-standard assumptions, such as large extra dimensions.
    However, many particle collisions that naturally occur as the cosmic rays hit the edge of our atmosphere are often far more energetic than any collisions created by man. If micro black holes can be created by current or next-generation particle accelerators, they have probably been created by cosmic rays every day throughout most of Earth's history, i.e. for billions of years, evidently without earth-destroying effects. However, such natural micro black holes would be relativistic relative to earth, and should zip safely through our planet in 1/4 second or less at 99.99+% c. Collider produced micro black holes would be relatively "at rest" where they could become gravitationally bound, affording repeated opportunity to interact and grow larger, travelling at a tiny fraction of c, if Hawking Radiation is not real. This distinction between nature-made and man-made micro black holes has not yet been addressed in any of the safety studies on potential collider production of micro black holes.[citation needed]
    If two protons at the Large Hadron Collider could merge to create a micro black hole, this black hole would be unstable, and would evaporate due to Hawking radiation before it had a chance to propagate. For a 14 TeV black hole (the center-of-mass energy at the Large Hadron Collider), the Hawking radiation formula indicates that it would evaporate in 10-100 seconds.
    The European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) conducted a study assessing the risk of producing dangerous objects such as black holes at the Large Hadron Collider, and concluded that there is "no basis for any conceivable threat."[66] However, due to renewed concerns about both potential negative strangelet production, and LHC micro black holes that are "at rest" compared to natural micro black holes that are relativistic, CERN commissioned another study in 2007, with the results to be published in early 2008. Essentially, the concern is that due to their tiny size, a relativistic micro black hole would barely interact while traversing earth, being very similar to a neutrino in having a low cross-section for interaction, and therefore harmless. Conversely, the relatively slow speed of collider-produced micro black holes and their gravitational binding to earth would allow for repeated opportunity to interact with matter, eventually allowing such micro black hole to grow larger. Those speculative scenarios also require that theoretical Hawking Radiation is not real.
    Discuss. Also if anyone can find a live stream of activation it would be cool.


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    Grand Master Pfa is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    Not catastrophic enough. Wasn't there another topic?

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    Grand Master gReGiTh is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    Quote Originally Posted by Pfa View Post
    Not catastrophic enough. Wasn't there another topic?
    Not that I saw?

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    Grand Master Spark is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    Chances of destruction are around 1 in 50 million, that's like winning the lottery 4 times in a row, we aren't going to die, though the scientific theorys that can be proved are exciting.

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    Sorcerer Supreme Gladstone is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    Guys the experiments aren't being run for much longer you're panicking about nothing and holy shit

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    Sorcerer Supreme Gladstone is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    theres already like 73 threads on this

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    Grand Master Pfa is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    Mmm...yes...I concur with Gladstone. (in snotty Brittish accent)

    Get this bloody experiment over with already. You never know until you try.

    http://forum.ragezone.com/showthread.php?t=444016

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    Grand Master alexdesire is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    I guess this things already gone off?

    /Fate

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    Grand Master Konrow is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    Its on. We're alive. Gj panicking idiots. Hopefully we get some nice new scientific discoveries/confirmations.

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    Grand Master ImaMoFoThief is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    Cern has just unlocked achievement: Chaotic Hell - successfully make 4chan believe you are deviding by 0


    fucking genious' never killed me :(

    so what did they learn?

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    Omega Dandune is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    It's not fully active until 10'th September.

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    bensonhu Skycut is offline
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    Re: LHC Activation

    Quote Originally Posted by Dandune View Post
    It's not fully active until 10'th September.
    But wouldn't this still count as a safe?



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