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    London bomb conspiracy?

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    The first eyewitness to report this was Bruce Lait, a victim of the Aldgate Station bombing.
    He told the Cambridge Evening News,
    "The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bomb was'. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don't remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag."
    http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/region_wide/2005/0...2f4-1779a86926f9.lpf
    Now another credible source, Guardian journalist Mark Honigsbaum, talked to eyewitnesses at the Edgware Road bombing, who essentially described the same thing.
    Eyewitnesses told Honigsbaum that "tiles, the covers on the floor of the train, suddenly flew up, raised up."
    How could the floor of the train raise up from a bomb supposedly in the backpack of an individual seated in the carriage, above the floor?
    The victims then heard "an almighty crash" as a train traveling in the opposite direction collided, clearly indicating that the train had derailed due to the bomb being placed under the carriage.
    Click here to hear the audio

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/guardian_journalist.mp3

    For individuals to plant bombs underneath trains and secure them in place without being caught, they would need to secure access to the trains.
    The fact that the ID's of all the so-called suicide bombers were found in pristine condition right next to where the bombs went off strongly suggests the planting of evidence to frame patsies. The ID's would have had a very good chance of surviving if the bomb was not in the backpack with them, but underneath the train.
    The drill scenario would have provided culpability cover if investigators started asking questions about objects underneath the carriage.
    A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.
    On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.
    Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.
    Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.
    How can anyone credibly claim that this was sheer coincidence when pieced together with the rest of the evidence?
    It was reported by Associated Press that Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had received a warning from the Israeli Embassy not to leave his hotel for a speech he was to give that morning. The location of the speech was right next to the site of one of the bombings.

    Despite debunking attempts from much of the establishment press, Associated Press never retracted the story and later Mossad admitted that it was true.
    The so-called claim of responsibility for the attack was made by a group that is known to not physically exist and which at best is one guy sitting at a computer posting messages on a forum.
    http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189884,00.html
    And yet the establishment media still report Al-Qaeda responsibility for the attack as if it were the gospel truth.
    Exactly what evidence have we seen to even agree with the contention that four men with rucksack bombs carried out this attack? Four grainy CCTV pictures of dark skinned men with rucksacks? Should we not question this evidence especially when verified witnesses on two of the three trains that were bombed said that the bombs were underneath the train and that they saw no men with rucksacks even in the area?
    Questions about the attacks are never ending.
    Why was it reported that the explosives used were military in origin but then the story changed to say they were homemade? Can explosive experts not tell the difference or was the story changed for a reason?
    Why would a man with an 8-month old baby, another who was only interested in sports, and another who taught disabled children, want to kill themselves, other innocent people and cause so much carnage in the process?
    Even the establishment media started speculating that the bombers were duped into killing themselves by someone else.
    Why did the cameras on the targeted bus malfunction that day? Why was the bus diverted from its usual route? We personally visited the site of the bus bombing at Tavistock Place and verified that no number 30 bus travels down that road.
    What is the reason behind Alan Greenspan's decision to flush nearly $40 billion in liquidity into financial markets two days before the attack? Was this an attempt to preemptively head off a run on the markets? If Greenspan had information about a terror attack then why didn't the people on the trains and buses get the same warning?
    http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=2&p=13901&s2=21
    Who were the individuals that profited from short-selling the British Pound in the ten days before the attack? The pound fell 6% for no particular reason.
    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45312
    Fortunes were made after the pound dropped even further in the aftermath of the attacks. This directly mirrors short selling of United and American Airline stocks in the days before 9/11. These suspicious transactions led directly to the CIA.
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/illegaltrades.html
    Why was an innocent man, Jean Charles de Menezes, shot in the head eight times at Stockwell tube station? Why did the police change their story, from saying Menezes was wearing a heavy jacket to admitting it was a lightweight denim jacket?
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1711303,00.html
    Why did the media initially report that Menezes was shot in the stomach but then change the story when it was pointed out that it would be stupid to shoot suspected suicide bombers in the very place that the bomb would be.
    Why did Tony Blair immediately reject a public inquiry into how and why the bombings took place? In Britain, there is a public inquiry for every event, no matter how insignificant, and yet after Britain's biggest tragedy since the blitz, Blair shuts the door. What is he frightened of?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4670945.stm

    The final nail in the coffin regarding inside involvement emerged when it was admitted that the so-called mastermind of both the 7/7 and 7/21 attacks, Haroon Rashid Aswat, is a British Intelligence Asset.
    http://www.infowars.net/Pages/Aug05/020805Aswat.html

    "Back in 1999 he came to America. The Justice Department wanted to indict him in Seattle because him and his buddy were trying to set up a terrorist training school in Oregon... we've just learned that the headquarters of the US Justice Department ordered the Seattle prosecutors not to touch Aswat... , apparently Aswat was working for British intelligence."
    The mastermind of the London bombings was under the direction and protection of MI6. How much more obvious does it need to be that criminal elements of the intelligence agencies were involved in this attack?


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    wow

    very very interesting read

    fits in with what ive been told since it happened, no1 would believe though lol

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    Very interesting read, Though these days everything's a conspiracy, I'm suprised no one has come up with a conspiracy thread about this forum. :eh:

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    That's odd...

    But than, why would the MI6 or any other british involvement occured? what did they gain?

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    what they gain or the changes are yet 2 be seen i guess

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    Everybody loves DTB DonTonberry is offline
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    I Don't Believe In These Conspiracies TBH.
    There Probably Spread By Abu Qatada And Followers of Shahira As A Propoganda Push. If They Do This By Spreading Rumours, Young Muslim Youths Will Feel Victimised By The Government And Want To Rebel Against It, Leading To More Attacks.

    Why would a man with an 8-month old baby, another who was only interested in sports, and another who taught disabled children, want to kill themselves, other innocent people and cause so much carnage in the process?
    Religion. Disillusion Of Life And Mistreatment By Other People. Why Would A 16 Year Old Lad Blow Himself Up In Palestine Even Though He Know's His Family Will Become Homeless After There House Is Destroyed.

    Why was an innocent man, Jean Charles de Menezes, shot in the head eight times at Stockwell tube station? Why did the police change their story, from saying Menezes was wearing a heavy jacket to admitting it was a lightweight denim jacket?
    Because The Dumb Fucker Run Onto A Tube Train When Told To Stop. I'd Have Shot Him To - Also It Was 5 Times (Eyewitness Statement).

    The final nail in the coffin regarding inside involvement emerged when it was admitted that the so-called mastermind of both the 7/7 and 7/21 attacks, Haroon Rashid Aswat, is a British Intelligence Asset.
    Why Would Osama Bin Laden Blow Up The World Trade Centre When America Paid Him $50,000,000 To Keep The Russians From Invading Afghanistan.
    The Reason? Religion. To Extremists Religion Comes First.
    I Was Actually Watching Dispatchers: Why Bomb London Yesterday When Abu Abdullah Stated That If The British Laws Interfered With Islam Laws, Then British Laws Can Goto Hell.

    Why was it reported that the explosives used were military in origin but then the story changed to say they were homemade? Can explosive experts not tell the difference or was the story changed for a reason?
    The Press Also Reported That Jean Charles de Menezes Was Actually A One Of The Guys Who Planted A Bomb The Day Before - They Later Changed That Report. People Make Mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exclamatio
    wow

    very very interesting read

    fits in with what ive been told since it happened, no1 would believe though lol
    i believed you

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    I'm with Don on this one. If you just read them statements and take them as the complete truth, without reading around them, you'll be convinced the bombings were a conspiracy. However, as Don has illustrated; if you think about the points they are trying to convey to us, they either don't make much sense or can be explained :).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonTonberry
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    I agree with DTB... I've seen religion does some horrible things...The muslims believe that when they suicide they go to heaven and get 72 virgins up there.
    It's the truth for them, they really believe it to the bottom of their heart, that belif plus the brainwash they get leads to those results.

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    Zorobz, your the smartest mod here.

    Why dont you ever hear "Christian Extremist blows himself to bits in the Gaza Stript killing 43 and wounding 104 others?" You never hear it, why? Because Christianity doesnt tell you take "Violence against Infidels" (In this case that would be whoever doesnt worship this Allah bs made up by some guy who thought he was born a god. )

    The Qu'ran was made up by some terrorist, and it is followed by terrorists. Do I care who made it up? No. I hope those terrorists enjoy burning in hell, because they deserve it. Let them take their so called Religion and shove it up where the sun dont shine.

    Leave your suicide attempts in your own country, dont screw up ours even more then it is screwed up. And dont blame Bush for the screw up, its Kerry and this democratic bs that is ripping the U.S to pieces. Bush is not a power hungry homosexual like Kerry, he does what's right and tries to keep it that way. Also that brings up Tony Blair, him and Bush make an excellent team. People talk trash about them, muslims blame them for violence, people in Indonesia blame them for the Tsunami..what else can you say?

    Blame John Kerry and the democratic parties, Bush didnt cause anything so leave him out of it. How would you feel if you got 10,000 emails a day like Bush.

    You Have Just Recieved an E-mail from Bin Laden!

    All Muslims are terrorists, no Muslim is a good Muslim. If you think the Qu'ran teaches peace, why dont you try reading it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorobz
    I agree with DTB... I've seen religion does some horrible things...The muslims believe that when they suicide they go to heaven and get 72 virgins up there.
    It's the truth for them, they really believe it to the bottom of their heart, that belif plus the brainwash they get leads to those results.
    Probably think "Whats he on about?" But they could actually be right, for all we know they DO go to the so-called "Heaven". Then again, They may not...
    But DTB's post does make allot of sence.

    Dirty, I'm sorry but you're a close minded prick. What makes ALL muslims terrorists? The new born child who is just brought into the world, Is he a terrorist? Do you see him and his mother going around trying to blow buildings up? No, I didn't think so. if Every muslim was a terrorist then we would be in deep trouble, It's the extremists who are Terrorists to us, But while they are terrorists to us, We are terrorists to them.
    Last edited by Dandune; 13-08-05 at 09:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDeals
    All Muslims are terrorists, no Muslim is a good Muslim. If you think the Qu'ran teaches peace, why dont you try reading it?
    That wasn't my point, and I really disagree with it..

    There are good muslims as I have met some myself.. Arabs aren't bad nor terrorists.
    The Qu'ran himself doesn't teach about war, it teaches about Jiha'ad, which in translation is "Holy War", something similar to that exists in the bible as well.
    Modern people and terrorists have twisted it a bit and said the thing with the virgins and such...

    And to Morphe, they might be right... maybe there is a heaven like that waiting for them... but I really don't believe that a god, any god, would encourge war by any way... and if it is true, than blowing up isn't they getting there.

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    I Don't want this to turn into a big flame war, I just though (You probably will disagree) that DirtyDeals was completely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDeals
    Zorobz, your the smartest mod here.
    Why dont you ever hear "Christian Extremist blows himself to bits in the Gaza Stript killing 43 and wounding 104 others?" You never hear it, why? Because Christianity doesnt tell you take "Violence against Infidels" (In this case that would be whoever doesnt worship this Allah bs made up by some guy who thought he was born a god. )
    The Qu'ran was made up by some terrorist, and it is followed by terrorists. Do I care who made it up? No. I hope those terrorists enjoy burning in hell, because they deserve it. Let them take their so called Religion and shove it up where the sun dont shine.
    Leave your suicide attempts in your own country, dont screw up ours even more then it is screwed up. And dont blame Bush for the screw up, its Kerry and this democratic bs that is ripping the U.S to pieces. Bush is not a power hungry homosexual like Kerry, he does what's right and tries to keep it that way. Also that brings up Tony Blair, him and Bush make an excellent team. People talk trash about them, muslims blame them for violence, people in Indonesia blame them for the Tsunami..what else can you say?
    Blame John Kerry and the democratic parties, Bush didnt cause anything so leave him out of it. How would you feel if you got 10,000 emails a day like Bush.
    You Have Just Recieved an E-mail from Bin Laden!
    All Muslims are terrorists, no Muslim is a good Muslim. If you think the Qu'ran teaches peace, why dont you try reading it?

    lolol

    i considered banning you for that

    but freedom of speach and all :tp:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morphe2
    I Don't want this to turn into a big flame war, I just though (You probably will disagree) that DirtyDeals was completely wrong.
    I do think he is completely wrong.

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    Well he wasnt being racist he was expressing his opinion in which points is true but not all muslims are bad and are intending to cause damage, to them they are the good and we are the evil, its just the way you look at it.

    I dont see terrorists as the enemy i just see it as an obstacle.So we go down the street boom a bomb goes off cos some brain washed fool believes he will get 74 virgins, one is enough, i love the fact people have faith but i hate the fact they feel they have to cause terror to recieve good.....

    All in all you got 1 life enjoy it, once you leave this life enjoy the next , but by all means why just destory such things..

    My view on the muslim religion is like any other, peopl ehave the rights to do and say what they wish but regardless of its sometimes controversial who here has any real power to say or do anything.

    Freedom of speach is just a way to make a person feel as if they have some input in the world when infact you have none, When the population is being brainwashed from what they see on tv we got trouble.


    Most people think the war in iraq ended ages ago yet it still goes on, AN entire army base was broken into last week in iraq and the militants killed every american and accessed all the networks of the american base and got all the plans.. And then the tv station aired the dead soldiers including they're id badges..

    Now aint there a thing called "genome convention" which protects the rights of the person...... Hell , i dont see those doing it.


    Man i can carry on for hours like this but in reality ill sum it up..


    America attacked america simply to put fear into peoples hearts to make the war seem less harsh, of course osama was living in the country at the time and apparently working for the us...... But why did the owner of that tower make several billion dollers from the WTC falling? WHy did he put an insurance claim on the place several weeks before being attacked? Coincidence?


    Britian could have done the same thing but idont believe in real terrorism from other countrys tbh, reason being i find it impossible..........


    Oh well

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    Sorcerer Supreme DirtyDeals is offline
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    but freedom of speach and all
    Freedom of Speech here in the U.S, dont know about Europe.

    It's not the same in Russia. :)

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    Way i see freedon of speech - excuse my typo originally, the way i see it is that they feel as if they have an input , or a view, but they may express that but at the end of the day it doesnt get them nowhere.


    America said dont invade iraq.. over half the population, but no they didnt, because you have no input.......


    Oh americans - http://www.arnoldexposed.com/

    I advise you read this

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentaL
    osama was living in the country at the time and apparently working for the us...... But why did the owner of that tower make several billion dollers from the WTC falling? WHy did he put an insurance claim on the place several weeks before being attacked? Coincidence?
    Britian could have done the same thing but idont believe in real terrorism from other countrys tbh, reason being i find it impossible..........
    Oh well
    Well i didn't know about Osama living in the country unless you meant the family not himself, But the fact that the owner made an insurance claim weeks before it being attacked is rather strange, Bah confused now!
    Last edited by Dandune; 13-08-05 at 10:50 PM.

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    Oooh Ta MentaL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentaL
    osama was living in the country at the time and apparently working for the us...... But why did the owner of that tower make several billion dollers from the WTC falling? WHy did he put an insurance claim on the place several weeks before being attacked? Coincidence?
    Britian could have done the same thing but idont believe in real terrorism from other countrys tbh, reason being i find it impossible..........
    Oh well
    The Owner Of The Company Might Have Gained Billions From The WTC Disaster, But The American Government And Companies Lost Near Trillions. The Stock Market Crashed - Enough To End A Country. America Then Went On To Spend Another

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    America didnt spend, the tax payer did, america was allready in a trillion doller debt even before the war...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentaL
    America didnt spend, the tax payer did, america was allready in a trillion doller debt even before the war...
    Say You Still Worked At Kwik Save.

    You Get Paid

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