muahaha you were wrong, she also broke my nose :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mara
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muahaha you were wrong, she also broke my nose :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mara
You know there is actually quite a lot of truth in that movie? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by HellDestroyer
But really, there are several ways to pickup a lady, and seeing how each girl is different each aproach should be different. It takes a lot of practice and experience to know what to do when, but once you start seeing the pattern seducing a woman really isn't that difficult anymore.
If I may be so bold as to post a few tips:
1. Do NOT be a desperate lap-dog!
Girls love it when you are nice to them. Which is exactly why you shouldn't. Be their friend, talk with them a lot, help them move, etc and before you know it she sees you as a 'good friend'. This can be fun, but it will be almost impossible to extand that into a sexual relationship.
Moreso, if you do stuff for a woman you give of the signal you want her and are prepared to do anything to get her. Though some women find that romantic and cute, most find it boring - remember, it sounds so very natural that almost every man out there tries it, meaning any girl can spot it from a mile and has had it happen to her so often she probably knows better what you will be prepared to do for her then you do yourself. Ofcourse most women will deny this, but it is actually better to ignore them most of the time. Women HATE it when a man doesn't appear to be interested in them and most find this unexplainably extremely attractive.
2. Do NOT open the conversation!
As a rule of thumb do I NEVER start talking to a girl on MSN I like. The trick is into getting them to talk to you and there are several techniques for this. Most effective is to get to know a bit about her, find out what she likes and then use this in your nickname or description. For example, say you fancy a girl that loves Star Wars movies (he, I know they exist! ;)) set as nickname '[Your name] - Anybody feel like watching 'The Empire Strikes Back' tonight?' - this gives her an excuse to talk to you, as well as drawing her attention towards the fact that you share certain interests. Just make sure your MSN / AOL / whatever status is set to 'online', not busy or away, when she is online. To get extra attention you could even set your status to offline while she is online then come back online a moment later - this will trigger a popup on her screen with your nickname, usefull for when she has other things drawing her attention away from her IM list.
Do not worry if she doesn't start talking to you and DO NOT spam her with 'comes online' messages, they just anoy people. Any girl that at least slightly likes you will respond to this technique (unless they are really bussy, in which case you couldn't have had a long conversation with her anyway) sooner or later. Just make sure to not use the same nickname too often.
2.b - In a bar / at a party / etc
I know most of you are rather young still, yet there are probably enough occasions where you meet her socially. Though a little attention is allowed, basicly the same rules as above apply here.
Most importantly: do not stare at her. Do not show a large amount of interest whatsoever. Make sure you have a few friends to talk to and a drink in your hand (because when she starts talking to you you'll otherwise have no idea of where to put your hands) and most of all: be relaxed - they can sense fear ;). Make sure you're in her neighboorhood without actually standing with your face towards her. Most party's are dynamic, meaning a group of people that are talking will disband after a while and people find a new group to join. Make sure there is room next to you when this happens to her group, but do not walk up to her when she is alone - not unless you are very confident you'll be able to make her laugh on your own yet.
When you've tried this method for an hour or so and she still hasn't talked to you it may be time to take a bit of action yourself. The important thing here is to act like you're not acting, be friendly without actually being her lapdog and in no way show her you want her. Instead, walk up to her if she's alone / not talking, make a few comments, be sure to smile and look relaxed and fun to be with, then walk away. Go talk to your friends and make sure to appear to be having a great time. Now she has nobody to talk to (seeing how she was talking to you) and she sees you are fun to be around - if you have done this right and she IS interested in you she will most likely follow you to the group of people you are now talking to and stay in your vicinity.
3. Okay, she's interested, now what?
You have succesfully completed the staps under 2, the girl you want has come up to you to talk to you, if you haven't screwed up already you two are having a good time and most people around you have moved on to talk to someone else. Good for you!
At this point there are several techniques possible, but what works best for you only you can tell. Personally at this point I like to invite them to do something together that isn't per se romantic or for lovers only, yet sets an romantic atmosphere. My favourite is to ask her to come outside for some fresh air or a walk in the moonlight, or go to another bar thats more fun. Again, be carefull this comes over as something YOU want, and she is ALLOWED to join you, if she wants to. Say something along the lines of 'Hey, I need some fresh air, want to go outside for a bit?' or 'I think I've seen enough here, I'm off for this great place a few streets away. Care to join me?'.
4. She wants you, you've got her for yourself, its almost time for the final step!
If you still haven't screwed up yet there might be hope for you! At this point its obvious she likes you (a lot probably), seeing how she left her friends just to be with you. If you've done your job she's already used to you touching her (no you pervert, in a friendly way, a tickle or a nudge when she makes fun of you, a hand on her shoulder when you're opening the door for her, etc) so she won't object to you putting your arm around her. She'll most likely react by looking at you, and this is the crucial moment. Do not look away, but instead keep gazing into her beautifull deap [blue / green / brown / etc] eyes. If she is still young enough to fall for the old romantic tricks you could tell her she has very beautifull eyes - just make it sound like a pure objective observation, not like you're a second shakespear - you're not. I write pretty good poetry and still I'm not. Hell, Shakespear himself probably wasn't when wooing a lady ;)
5. Yay! Actually kissing!
If you were walking at this point, stop, and turn your body so you're facing her. Let your arm slide down a bit so you're holding her upperarm and use your other hand to gently caress her face, what works best in my experience is to move her hair away from her eyes ending up with your hand on the side of her head. If she moves away at this point you have regretfully failed to impress her enough. If she doesn't, move your head closer to hers, without turning it, untill you are about nose-to-nose with her. She'll probably start breathing heavier and fast at this point, which is as good a sign as any that you should right then and there kiss her the best you can - though remember, even the best kissers in the world need a bit of time before they know what their partner want and you're probably closer to being one of the worst so NEVER start french-kissing her straight away. Kiss her on the lips, carefully, and a few times more if she doesn't object. Only when she opens her mouth more is it time to try your best - and remember, nobody likes a machine-drill in their mouths, be gentle ;)
Disclaimer!
Remember, this is only 1 technique and it will only work on 1 kind of girl. I happen to like this one kind of girl so its the best technique for me, but that doesn't mean it will work for 'your' kind of girl as well. In any case ignoring them and letting them come to you works on just about every girl out there (except the REALLY naief / young ones who are to scared to talk to a guy they like, but girls go into this whole business a lot sooner then most boys, so if she's your age she probably already has a lot more experience then you do).
Also, your attitude plays a very important role in this. If you're a desperate nerd and let it show, you're very lickely to get bitchslapped if you try anything. If you are very nervous and stutter when you talk to her the first time she'll probably not talk to you again. If you look like just any other guy and have no way of showing you're special, the same.
What works for me is being the 'intelligent, sophisticated relaxed alto guy': I wear black clothes, punk-trousers, a good fitting bandshirt (fitting into an L is NOT something to be proud of. We all want to be big, but the best way is to wear stuff thats only just big enough. I wear M's, medium, whilst I'm 1.88m and pretty broad around the shoulders - I've seen people with my stature wearing XL's and looking like a midget in a giants clothes), sometimes a few spikes here and there and I used to have my hair painted black. I don't smoke, yet I don't say no to a good joint either. I'm funny without actually being a clown (important that! Girls like the clown-type that makes fun of himself and others regularly, but they'll NEVER date him!), relaxed without coming off as someone who's in need of his pension. I'm a good listener without actually being quiet as hell. Dark and mysterious without actually being a gothic, etc. Apart from that I speak 4 languages, study astrophysics, won several cocktail / bar contests and have been to more festivals and concerts then most people do in their entire life - its stuff like that which, when brought the right way, shows a girl that you're different, special, not just any guy.
'Girl'-types
The girls I aim for are usually a bit shy, naturally beautifull without actually being a 'hot-babe with huge tits'. As far as I can tell they like me because they think their lifes are pretty boring, they never went out much and I'm excited to be with. I'd say about 60% of all girls fall into this group, so unfortunately for you, there are also enough girls that want most of all boredom, they usually date the kind of guy that has a good job or is a good study and comes off as though he could've been their father - which is closer to the truth then you might think. You'll need a totally different approach for this kind'a girl, and I won't be able to help you out there much. Maybe even just being very honoust works in this case, who knows? Though truth be told, in my experience only ~10% of all girls fall into that catagory.
Then there is the catagory of women that KNOW what men want and know they want it as well. They have enough experience to see trough the whole 'I don't want you' act and you'd better be damn cool if you want them to notice you. Again, I can't give you advice on these women, though I've seen a few pages on the internet from men that can :) Depends on your location, but I'd say about 20% fit in here.
Last catagory I can think of are the 'breezersluts' as we call them. I doubt you'll need more advice then 'give them alcohol, lots of it, then have sex with them in your car'. Seems to work for a lot of desperate men out there, though you'll never catch me with one.
*sigh* Sorry for my ramblings, I tend to get carried away a bit sometimes... :D
Good luck all you desperate chumps! :icon6:
im not desperate just being patient for the rite one thats all
have you tries asking her that question???
just say what you feel
yeah lol that's a good oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Mara
shit dude... you know how to do it o_O"Quote:
Originally Posted by FragFrog
i always wanted to know how people have one girl(friend) after another... so that's the way it is... mhm....
tell me the girls style: rebel, does she like love or just some fun, etc. tell me all ... i may be able to help ya ;)
haha the good old 'br33z4h sletjes' lol for those who don't know 'breezah'is somekind of distant feminim relative to 1337Quote:
Originally Posted by FragFrog
anyways nice guide gragfrog, i'm sure it'll be usefull to someone
my add to this guide, dont try this guide on more then 1 girl a night, or else you will be put on the blacklist ;)
could be too soon but if you leave it too long you'll get the reply of death.
"We can still be friends"
ouch.
you never know if you don't try, but on the other hand if it's too soon you'll ruin your friendship forever, or for a long time at least.
there is never a good time for something, like this.
alright guys, thanks for all you advice. now i'll tell u how it ended up.
well, it was pretty simple. she found out what i felt towards her after reading my blog. she cried after reading this (from the blog):
The Human Misery
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I can't go on.
It breaks me to even talk to her. I want to cry, but I forgot how to long ago. I know she won't be mine now, nor would she be. It was foolish to think that we'd ever be togather. And now, I simply can't forget about her. I see her before me in mind every single minute.
I can't go on. It kills me. Slowly. Painfully. Like a blunt blade that cuts you on and on. You can't stop screaming, you cannot take it any more! You'll do anything, just make the pain stop! You can't bear it longer, you just wish you were dead, but you're not, and the pain! No, the pain!
And when the pain has gone, you feel relief. But you feel empty now. You feel like you lost a part of yourself, as if you lost a limb, or an organ. And then you know. You want her back in your heart. You know of the pain that you will suffer if you'll try to remember, but you don't care.
And then it's back. And you see her again, standing in front of you. And you then you know that you've seen the most beutiful creature ever. You don't care of nothing now.
And as you try to aproach her, you feel the pain of a thousand needles stuck in your body. The pain is great, but the passion is stronger. And you keep walking. The pain becomes greater and greater with every step, but you try to ingore it, and you move on and move, until you feel your feet are melting, but you just keep moving on and on.
And finally, when you reach her, she disapear, and instead upears a deadly executioner. And the torture is back! You cannot move, you cannot see, the only thing you feel is the pain! No, the pain! But you struggle on, trying to fight back, but you're paralized! You cannot do anything and you're under the executioner's mercy! And he strikes you, again and again, and on and on! You scream for help, but no one hears you! And he laughs in your face with his mad laugh and continues!
You stare blindly at the air, already unaware of the pain, why no one hears me? Is the world gone deaf? And you lie there, in the void, broken and torn.
There is nothing you can do, but just make it stop!
The pain!
And you see the memories....
No, the pain!!!
and then everything goes black.
The pain has stopped.
But, you know it's unavoidable.
You must see her..
The pain.......
she said it was the most beautiful thing she could ever hear about her.
a day after, it turns out that she actually really likes me! all could end up like in the fairy tales, if only she wouldn't love another one.
well, you know what they say, life ain't a movie, so we have to live with such things. true, it was really painful, but it's okay. like i said in one of my poems "my heart of stone it cannot break, an abandoned soul that no one takes."
Well at least she knows your feelings for her. Sad ending tho. Now life goes on
thats touching :-) I liked reading it :-)
I had more written up, but I had failed to scroll down on the last page, so I didnt realize you had already had her find out about it.
to be really honest, highschool may be the best place to get experience, but the absolute place to date. Have I dated? no, but I talk to girls more than guys most of the time since I know how to and I'm a big nerd, but I'm not scrawny and look like one. God damn fragfrog, that's beautiful but don't give secrets away ;D
putting it on your blog wasn't really that smart yeah >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by Unleashed Hell
How old are you if I can ask? did u ever had a relation before her? Because I think u could handle this problem alone like a big boy ofc u can ask some advise but do that with people that know her and u.. Maybe she has feelings for u and she said that to her friends ask them not us ;) And tbh if I was u I just say it to her and see what happens :o) But I've got some fucked up relations with even just "friends" because when the relation is over ur friendship is over too most of the time .. Go tell her and good luck ;) :) :D And say us what she said back because now we are intrested :P
-Peace
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Originally Posted by Unleashed Hell
It's kinda make or break with that situation, if she doesn't feel the same way it might ruin what you already have, they again if she does feel the same way you might have an awesome relationship. Personally I would tell her, but i'm a risk taker with girls. Just do what you think is right man.
Get your knob out and start slapping it on the table in front of her. If she smiles you're in, if she stabs your knob with a pen, or worse a high heel, no chance.
Wow, that happened to my friend few weeks ago,
The girl (we are ALWAYS having fun together,best friends in some ways.) finally told my best friend she loved him -_-.
My friend was all fucked,and confused.
He wondered why she haven't tell him that months ago.
But my friend didn't love that girl... so he said no.
It's your choice m8, do it or not.
No Relationship Please
Show her this and I\'m sure she\'ll fall for you.. lmao