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I Rule MU
You can't argue, there is absolutely nothing to argue about. Admit what you said was extremely retarded and move on.
Retarded like your above post, which has nothing to do with the point at hand. Obviously you can't shoot them, I'm talking about what they deserve. And they do deserve to be shot, I'm not going to deny that. But what you can do is have your voice heard LEGALLY through a petition. I can't think of a better example than the one Shawn posted, scroll up and look at it. I assumed you weren't that stupid that you would take me literally and claim that as your counter-point by calling me a hypocrite. Apparently I was wrong, your stupidity knows no bounds.
Go back to your shopping thread and how you wish you were french. Those are obviously much more important.
And that's sarcasm by the way. It seems everything must be pointed out for you to fully understand it.
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Shawns example and reasoning do not match. A fundraiser and a petition our different things and require different actions. If a petition is going to be sent when they hit 25,000 then continuing to sign makes no impact. How ever a fundraiser continue to donate would make an impact. So no the example is not valid
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The petition I feel personally is not valid due to the fact any person can sign up and vote. There for a petition of names is about as strong as you typing random names on a piece of paper 100000 times. If this required you to be a US citizen and provide proof such as in the UK we have our N.I number. This would make the petition far more effective .
Ok down to the last part,
I believe you failed to read my post properly and understand. All i stated is that the number of needed petitions had been reached and creating a thread so late that would have no real impact would be pointless. I did not say the cause behind it was pointless or it did not have a reason. I simply stated voting now was pointless.
Dont attempt to cause an issue when there is not one IRuleMu.
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Originally Posted by
Sir Kidd
First,
Shawns example and reasoning do not match. A fundraiser and a petition our different things and require different actions. If a petition is going to be sent when they hit 25,000 then continuing to sign makes no impact. How ever a fundraiser continue to donate would make an impact. So no the example is not valid
Second,
The petition I feel personally is not valid due to the fact any person can sign up and vote. There for a petition of names is about as strong as you typing random names on a piece of paper 100000 times. If this required you to be a US citizen and provide proof such as in the UK we have our N.I number. This would make the petition far more effective .
Ok down to the last part,
I believe you failed to read my post properly and understand. All i stated is that the number of needed petitions had been reached and creating a thread so late that would have no real impact would be pointless. I did not say the cause behind it was pointless or it did not have a reason. I simply stated voting now was pointless.
Dont attempt to cause an issue when there is not one IRuleMu.
Umm you should probably read up on the Petition Act...
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/
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There IS an issue here though. It's amazing that you would say this thread should be closed after all the bullshit you have been posting lately.
Your first point and last point are practically the same. You are saying voting now is pointless. Are you telling me that a petition with 25,000 signatures and a petition with 250,000 signatures are the same? If you are, then once again your stupidity knows no bounds. It doesn't matter how many you need for the petition to be accepted, one of the main points is to show support for the cause. With more votes, it gains more attention and you can bet officials would be forced to deal with it much quicker than they would if it reached the bare minimum. Now to tie it back to Shawn's example (which is similar), it's the same as a charity needing $20,000 to do something but receiving $200,000. It doesn't matter if the goal has been accomplished, that shouldn't prevent you from supporting a cause on an issue that you care about. In the case of a charity, donate so they can do what they want on a larger scale. In the case of a petition, vote so it gains more momentum. Either way, it matters.
As for your second reason, I have no idea where that is coming from and how you expected us to derive that from "this thread should be closed." If you had posted that from the start, we would not be having this discussion as that is a genuine reason for why you disagree with this process. More votes don't matter is not a genuine reason. For this particular issue, I could care less. These people fucking suck, and they should be shot but of course you are already familiar with my opinion. I don't care if 10,000 of those votes came from one person in this particular case because this "church" really does need to be stopped. As for the registration process, we have social security numbers in the U.S. and I'm surprised they don't require them but that is not my problem to deal with.
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IruleMu please read below as to why I think the petition number does not affect.
If am I wrong fair do but from that site I can only derive the following as stated below
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Originally Posted by
DaCheat
I did check the How and Why part of the site and terms,.
Nothing I can see stated any of my comments incorrect.
Once it reaches the second threshold it is sent as far as I can see.
Maybe I have miss read a part of missed something and if you can link me I would be grateful. If I am wrong I am wrong but currently I can only see and read that once it reaches the second threshold it is sent to the appropriate experts. More so I dont see that the number past the threshold affects in any way.
Aka once it reaches 25,000 [current second threshold] it is sent to the appropriate experts to deal with the issue.
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I don't know how differently you are seeing things, and I'm getting tired of repeating it because I don't think you're understanding what I am trying to say. I'm not saying what you're said is wrong since 25k signatures is what is required to send the petition out, but the people making the decisions are not computers. After the petition is sent out, they will come back to look at all the facts. And one of the main factors behind their decision would be whether the motion has enough support. 25k is needed to bring it to the attention of the people in charge, but who knows how many could be needed to force them to act. Once again back to Shawn's point, even if the minimum is reached continue to support what you believe in. There is strength in numbers and the more you have, the better.
This argument revolved around the fact that you said voting further is pointless. My previous posts have been aimed at showing you why it's not, but I don't think you're getting the point and this is getting repetitive.
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Girls, shut the fuck up and sign the god damn petition. There's always a point in signing a petition as the US has a population of 300m+ and the petition has around 300,000 votes. That's 0.1% of the population. And what kind of country would America be if it let the 0.1% decide legislation? (:zippy:)
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Goal of 25k, so far almost 300k... lol
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They do it for the publicity.
Guess what people are giving them.
The answer: ignore them. We don't care that a group of religious fanatics can predictably boycott anything. Religion is internally inconsistent and it's easy to generalize anything from it, so their opinions are fundamentally meaningless. Ignore. Do not care.
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Dude but the problem is they are hurting the victims of the tragedies. You have family in the military and they fall in battle, these faggots will protest when the body returns and is about to be buried. They are protesting at the funerals of KIDS who died in the Newtown shooting.
I completely agree with the right to protest, it's free speech. If you're against the military and their actions in foreign nations, go to the pentagon and protest there. But to do it while someone is coping with the loss of their loved one is too much. If they want publicity, they got it along with thousands of death threats.
They are just as Christian as the Arabic suicide bombers are Muslim...they are not. They use religion to justify their dickheaded moves.
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Petition is not going to do shit.
my 2¢.
Want to change the world? Start with yourself.
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Signed this, its not about that I care about a certain country, to me all people are equal, no matter where you come from, colour of the skin, religion etc. But I do not tolerate such behavior. This is unacceptable and has to be stopped.
Other than this, it your choice if will or will not sign the petition. But first think what if these guys were in your country and you needed the help?
Regards
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Originally Posted by
Sir Kidd
This thread should be closed
If you looked they already passed the number of needed votes nearly 12 times the amount.
Its pointless to vote now.
It's never a good idea to just stop voting, 12,000 is a meager amount in terms of how many people live in the US. The more people who sign the better the chances are if it happening. If the govnerment sees only 12,000 people sign a petition, they'll just make up some bullshit comment on it, and that'll be that. Nothing will change. Or even worse they'll subtly dodge the entire subject like they have in the past.
Hell they might do that anyway.
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Originally Posted by
jMerliN
They do it for the publicity.
Guess what people are giving them.
The answer: ignore them. We don't care that a group of religious fanatics can predictably boycott anything. Religion is internally inconsistent and it's easy to generalize anything from it, so their opinions are fundamentally meaningless. Ignore. Do not care.
How would you feel if your child son or daughter was being pickets by a rather large group of people for getting murdered, at their funeral no less. I supposed you'd just ignore it right? Doubful.
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Originally Posted by
fkn0wned
Petition is not going to do shit.
my 2¢.
Want to change the world? Start with yourself.
Already have :) once A week, I either donate to a local charity or hunt down a homeless person and give them a meal, or just do s random good deed like help an elderly person with their groceries. Started doing this about 3 months ago. May not seem like much but it makes me feel like I've made someones day A little better and that's the only satisfaction I need.
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Lazlow
And what kind of country would America be if it let the 0.1% decide legislation? (:zippy:)
Loving the trollbait!
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Lazlow
Girls, shut the fuck up and sign the god damn petition. There's always a point in signing a petition as the US has a population of 300m+ and the petition has around 300,000 votes. That's 0.1% of the population. And what kind of country would America be if it let the 0.1% decide legislation? (:zippy:)
Hahaha I love how you constantly post little smart comments like these. We are, ofcourse, the first nation in history to do what the elite minority want right? And we're the only ones suffering due a bad economy that is titled in favor of rich people right?
