Speed of light broken

[NoPeace]

Nopeaces info sounds very interesting. still wonder... live can travel on worm holes? mean, no living matter can... but what about a human being? once u get to the other side of the worm hole... u'll be alive?

Why wouldn't you be alive? A worm hole simply makes a tunnel from one side to another. Matter then fills that hole and moves to the other end.

Now if the hole were to collapse then that's a whole new thing. What would happen? Would you be injected into a random point in the normal time and space. Or will you be stuck in between time and space?

Either way you'll probably be dead.

So am I :o

Moving an object at high speeds, the energy is put into increasing the objects mass rather than speeding it up. Making an object move at the speed of light is probably not a great idea, I guess it would make a black hole at some point.

Maybe but as the object moves closer to that speed wouldn't it in theory slow down? As time stops at the speed of light. So then wouldn't the object cease to exist in our space once in fact that it reaches the speed of light and time for it stops.

Wormholes however are much more intresting, but are WELL out of our reach. It takes things like suns to bend space, I doubt we will be doing it in a lab any time soon.

Well that's why we need fusion power to drive it. With that power we can in fact have the ability to harness it to bend space as do stars do.

Since well a star is just an uncontrollable fusion reaction.

If we do ever get the ability to go beyond the speed of light id say communications is what it will be in. The big problem with space travel is how long it takes to send data to probes etc. If we do ever leave the solar system communication will be basically pointless, sending some data only to receive a reply in 20 years isnt going to be very useful. And hey, itll be fun to play a game with a ping in nano seconds :p

Yeah. Communications would me amazing if we can send singles faster then the speed of light. And in a way it's necessary for interstellar communications.

Still you can utilize wormholes to do it also or in conjunction with super light speed transmissions. Just open a hole to shorten the distance and then send the transmission though it via a direct beam.

Even with super light speed transmissions it'll be nearly impossible to send it far into the galaxy at any reasonable amount of time. This galaxy is about 100k light years across. So even at 100k times the speed of light it'll still take a year to transmit the data. So if you can create a worm hole that shortens the distance to say 300million miles it makes it must more easily done. As now it would only take about 25-30 mins to make that transmission at just the speed of light. So with using super light speed speed transmissions you can maybe have a conversation in real time depending how fast it is.

But yeah. For localized transmissions. It would be kick ass to have a 1ns ping to the opposite side of the planet. :icon6:

TBH if we really wanted to leave earth it wouldnt be hard, it would just take a long time. Thats where generational space ships come in, stick 500+ people on a ship and even if it was traveling as fast as a car it would reach the closest sun, with people on board. Providing nothing breaks or w/e I think itll be one of the only ways we will leave earth, and who wouldnt want to if said earth is about to explode or something ;)

Still you don't even need to do that. What about the space colonies proposed back in the 70s. There are 6 lagrange points around the earth and moon where you can easily put them to be stable. Not just that but you can easily put one on the moon and Mars.

All this is highly possible and not to mention there are tons of great benefits to it all. There are so many rare resources that can be gathered from the moon and asteroids. Not just that but a 0G environment can make great improvements to every manufacturing process out there.

There are just so many possibilities that are not to far out to do.

Hopefully things speed on up so we can just leave this damn planet. :1:

NoPeace - out

[KyleEnos]

Hopefully things speed on up so we can just leave this damn planet.

Zoltan!

[Vok]

Why wouldn't you be alive? A worm hole simply makes a tunnel from one side to another. Matter then fills that hole and moves to the other end.

Now if the hole were to collapse then that's a whole new thing. What would happen? Would you be injected into a random point in the normal time and space. Or will you be stuck in between time and space?

Either way you'll probably be dead.

well, its not 100% verified that worm holes exists and there is a theory that worm holes acts like a black hole that decomposes matter and then it composes again. so, for a ball its ok... but a human?
well in fact im referring more to teleportation than speed light, but, isnt teleportation and travel faster than light the same? its just my opinion, matter will be intact if u move at speed of light?

[-Legend-]

Made me laugh so much


(copy mode), as Omerta said it'd be all over the news/TV, might even shift Maddie of the front page of newspapers.

Naw, Maddie will stay, Portugal using there parents as scapegoats ;i

Anyhow, Doubt it'll be over news - too many people claim they have broke it :P

-Jay

[Apollovin]

"The scientists were investigating a phenomenon called quantum tunnelling"

Sounds like something off a game!

[Hublos]

kk if we ever found aliens heres what would happen, its a GREAT theory Ive heard it a good amount of times to believe it prolyl is true, if we ever found and other lifeform we would probably fight them because of the fact that instinct 80-60 years ago was to have the greatest empire army money, well if they came here by instinct they would want to kill us to beat the higher species and take the land, its natural instinct to be the best that we or you can be, well if they could come to our earth most likly it would be to take over us because obvious they have a higher rank of machinery too already get too our planet

[Robert]

Why wouldn't you be alive? A worm hole simply makes a tunnel from one side to another. Matter then fills that hole and moves to the other end.

Now if the hole were to collapse then that's a whole new thing. What would happen? Would you be injected into a random point in the normal time and space. Or will you be stuck in between time and space?

Either way you'll probably be dead.

Yeah but i was more thinking what is actually bending the space time. The only things i know of are black holes and suns etc, really dangerous stuff to get near to. We know they bend it abit, how much do we need to bend it? To make a wormhole it might end up taking a mass the size of a few 100 suns :p Which would probably collapse and create a black hole, which is also a bad idea :D

If we did have the ability to target and connect holes prefect without anything joining them, then you could just make it like a door. Have a really small tunnel and opening, should mean it takes less energy to create it.

Maybe but as the object moves closer to that speed wouldn't it in theory slow down? As time stops at the speed of light. So then wouldn't the object cease to exist in our space once in fact that it reaches the speed of light and time for it stops.

We would see the object disapear till it slows down. For the object everything outside would be moving very slow (if at all? Viewing outside it would seem the object could teleport to anywhere instantly. However the object inside would still be limited to taking years to get anywhere.) Time is relative, the object would still be subject to time but i guess the stuff outside wouldnt 0o.

Well that's why we need fusion power to drive it. With that power we can in fact have the ability to harness it to bend space as do stars do.

Since well a star is just an uncontrollable fusion reaction.

Its the mass that bends time not the energy. Fusion would be useful to make ships move at a decent speed, but we dont really have anything to make the energy go into speed very efficently. And wed still be limited by C >_<

Yeah. Communications would me amazing if we can send singles faster then the speed of light. And in a way it's necessary for interstellar communications.

Still you can utilize wormholes to do it also or in conjunction with super light speed transmissions. Just open a hole to shorten the distance and then send the transmission though it via a direct beam.

Even with super light speed transmissions it'll be nearly impossible to send it far into the galaxy at any reasonable amount of time. This galaxy is about 100k light years across. So even at 100k times the speed of light it'll still take a year to transmit the data. So if you can create a worm hole that shortens the distance to say 300million miles it makes it must more easily done. As now it would only take about 25-30 mins to make that transmission at just the speed of light. So with using super light speed speed transmissions you can maybe have a conversation in real time depending how fast it is.

But yeah. For localized transmissions. It would be kick ass to have a 1ns ping to the opposite side of the planet. :icon6:

Again why make it long tunnel when it could be really short. Make the tunnel nano meters long for signals! But then what type of signal do you use and how is it contained? Light is good for speed but containing it is kinda difficult, using EM waves would be much easier. Galaxy WH Radio? :p

Still you don't even need to do that. What about the space colonies proposed back in the 70s. There are 6 lagrange points around the earth and moon where you can easily put them to be stable. Not just that but you can easily put one on the moon and Mars.

All this is highly possible and not to mention there are tons of great benefits to it all. There are so many rare resources that can be gathered from the moon and asteroids. Not just that but a 0G environment can make great improvements to every manufacturing process out there.

There are just so many possibilities that are not to far out to do.

Hopefully things speed on up so we can just leave this damn planet. :1:

NoPeace - out

I still want someone to make a Dyson Sphere around our sun. Why put solar panels on earth when you can blanket our sun with them and soak up loads of power. AYI moon rocks are likely the most expensive mineral on earth :o Meteorites are worth loads aswell, wish i could randomly find one :( But when id ether get hit by it or think someone was throwing a rock at me, lol

[Ramuthra]

y'know this really should splinter into a "what technology would you like to see?" thread. Be interesting to see who wants DX10 and who wants space travel, i would be one of the later.

as for quantum tunnelling is it like pong with wormholes and sub atomic particles? i imagine the bats are really small.

[Jackdawhouse]

epic bollocks

i may have failed physics but i learnt enough that breaking the speed of light is nigh on impossible in 2007...would also be on the tv if it was true

You failed physics - you don't have the right to comment on this then.
I believe that due to technologies increasing as the period of time increases, the chances of breaking the S(O)L increases.

Think about it... Einstein didn't have the technology we do in this modern world when he lived. Over centuries, science theories are always under threat of becoming "corrected". Refer back to the very first periodic table... now look at the super periodic tables we have today!


A theory is always there to be improved on. I reckon this story is true, although they are still working on it. It's like that professor in USA developing a time machine.

[truth]

:eek: This is scary the say the black birth was the fastest vehicle on the world with 10.000 km

[Pieman]

:eek: This is scary the say the black birth was the fastest vehicle on the world with 10.000 km

What does that have to do with this subject...?

[truth]

What does that have to do with this subject...?

That something is faster then the blackbirth.

[Pieman]

That something is faster then the blackbirth.

...

And before the lightspeed was broken there wasn't...? :eh:

I get the feeling you are either younger than 11 or doing vmbo-praktisch.