Suicide

[exclamatio]

Originally posted by GohanSSJ

Really, again you have no idea what you are talking about.

sometimes on rare occasions you make valid points

this is not one of those situations

[NeoSparky]

rocz knows exactly what he's talking about
give your opinion but leave other people's opinions alone.

now leave it alone. i wont warn again

[Rocz]

ty neo. <3

[Hulkster]

Neo should really be a psychiatrist, make some good $$$$$

[Spunkeh]

Originally posted by GohanSSJ
Do you think that all my expierence on this subject comes from that program?

Really, again you have no idea what you are talking about.

Gohan can u just button it for once u always have to argue ur point!

Ok i dont have expierence abt sucid not really a subject i talk abt

[Nik-C]

[GohanSSJ]

Originally posted by Rocz
i dont give a fuck what you think. this is a discusion i am VERY well welcomed to my own opinion, you think to highly of urself take ur head out ur ass and go experience life.

Expierence life, how can you tell me how to expierence life?

My point of that you don't know what you are talking about is towards your view of "some people die 2 hours after birth"
Does that supposed to make a person feel better, or feel their life is worth more?
Ok it's a shame those people die, but what does that for me?

It's like when you have those people that come that they shouldn't complain so much about their life because some people have it worse then them... so what, life isn't about comparing it to others, it's about how you feel about it.

[Rocz]

Originally posted by GohanSSJ


My point of that you don't know what you are talking about is towards your view of "some people die 2 hours after birth"
Does that supposed to make a person feel better, or feel their life is worth more?
Ok it's a shame those people die, but what does that for me?

It's like when you have those people that come that they shouldn't complain so much about their life because some people have it worse then them... so what, life isn't about comparing it to others, it's about how you feel about it.

your see my point is it does matter

People should be grateful that they are born. maybe it doesnt make people feel better that they are better of than someone else.. but even so. im not talkin about makin people better. im talkin about the moral of suicide and how much someone is throwing a way when some people dont even get teh chance ot make that decision.

[exclamatio]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nik-C
[B]

[GohanSSJ]

Originally posted by Rocz
People should be grateful that they are born. maybe it doesnt make people feel better that they are better of than someone else.. but even so. im not talkin about makin people better. im talkin about the moral of suicide and how much someone is throwing a way when some people dont even get teh chance ot make that decision.

So because other people don't have the chance that you got, means you should take all those chances?

You know lots of suicidal people would give their life for people who never got the chance, most real suicidal people have thought a lot about things.

[Rocz]

you talk about them asthough they are a breed of people..

people who are suicidal are not all there in teh head and need help to sort them out.. once ur suicidal thats not the end of the world for you.. it doesnt spiral endlassly downwards until u kill urself.. theres more too life.. ur exploiting my words because ur a bastard. so people know my opinions.. i care little of urs.. if anyone else wants to comment on my opinions feel free.

[Capricorn]

K guys you were asked to give opinions and respect the views of others.

So can we do that? Please.

[MisterStonk]

Gohan.. you've no idea of what you type. so i'm asking you to stfu!

[GohanSSJ]

Originally posted by Rocz
people who are suicidal are not all there in teh head and need help to sort them out..

I completely agree with you, but some people will always have the feeling that such people aren't there.


There is this girl i have been talking to for a while now on msn, i saw from the first convo that she was depressed, i don't know how some people don't even notice it, i found it very soon what was going on.
She feels like she is worthless, ugly, stupid, a bitch, not worth a other persons time etc, i talked to her for a long time, now she only lives like 20 minutes away from me, i knew i could never help her over the internet, there are somethings that you can't help with, sometimes a person needs to rant, sometimes they need to cry on a persons shoulder...

She didn't want to do it, however she did wanted deep down in her heart, i know so because at 1 point i got through her head, she did wanted, but it only last for a short time, after that it was harder and harder to get through her, even just a little, because there wasn't really much left to say, i repeated many things, hoping that when i did that she would get that i ment it.

About a week ago she blocked me, she had been trying to push me away for like a week, saying i should forget about her, that she isn't worth anyones time, that she really is a bitch when you get to know her etc, the reason why she didn't trusted people was because they aren't interested enough in you, that they go away when things would get diffecult, so all this time i never went away, it was the only thing she wanted, so that she could confirm she was right.

But that didn't worked, so she blocked me, and even though she didn't wanted to talk to me, she revived a old topic about her on a forum i visit, and which i invited her to, just to continue discussing with me, she has left that now too, yet still visits everyday while she never done anything on the forum just to post there.

I don't think she wants to break of contact deep down inside, but something is keeping her from opening up...

She is one of those people that commit suicide one day if they don't get helped, a lot of people don't even see she is depressed, and those who do are getting pushed away, or get ignored, such a person needs a extremely strong person, as she would take a lot of energy from a person, there are so very few of those people, and the chances are so small that there will be one that will be able to help her and get through, so small.

These people have a problem, even though they want something deep inside, they can't do it, they just can't, they live their life in pain, and you are telling me they are selfish for wanting to get away from the pain?
Do they really have to live a life full of pain just so that their familys don't have to get through something?

[Rocz]

people like that are mentally unstable.. if they were helped and pulled out of teh pit of despair they've fallen into then they probly wouldnt dream of suicide. help the girl. if she blocks you off go to her house and sit outside her front door for hours!!

how is it right? that if someone could be helped they waste there life?? everyone can be helped.. maybe ur jus too cretinous to help her..or maybe ur jus not the one who ever can.. but everyone can be helped..

I knew a girl who is ugly. she used to cut her arms up and take days of school then come back with bandages on her wrists and stuff.. she was a v. good friend to me.. i was there for her all the way through years 9-11 but she didnt continue to sixthform. i see her now and again at the train station and she doesnt have bandages or cuts.. she seems happy now.

i didnt do that.. but maybe i helped a little. the fact is she found someone that could help her ya? everythin i tryed i couldnt help her. but im a v. nice person to talk to and im supportive but it didnt seem to help.. doesnt mean i gave up

[GohanSSJ]

Easy to say, although i do got her adress (i found it out due to a joke....) i can't go sit there, i would be arrested in no time.

Yes everyone can be helped, but people don't always find the person that can help them, and they also don't believe in it anymore, and if that gets to a certain point they commit suicide.

[Rocz]

So how are you jusifiying that its right?????

surly u are saddend by the fact that they are wasting there life???

if they dont find someone they are unfortunate.. but that never justifys taking there own life does it?

[Nik-C]

Gotta give it to gohan, the guy can arguee. You ever thought of becomign a politicion? (hope I spelt that right)

[GohanSSJ]

I believe it's politician, not sure either though lol.

Originally posted by Rocz
So how are you jusifiying that its right?????

surly u are saddend by the fact that they are wasting there life???

if they dont find someone they are unfortunate.. but that never justifys taking there own life does it?

What is right and what is wrong?

If a person has lived so many years in pain, and simply see's no way out, then can we really tell them not to do it?

Such people might live like another 10 years in pain, some untill they die, can we really tell them not to do it?

[Rocz]

it is still a waste of a life. no matter what circumstance how ever tragic

[TONTO2]

Originally posted by NeoSparky
Stupid and/or selfish or the last way out
what's your opinion?

(just a point of discussion)

2 ryts kill y self suppose it works lol aint rly selfish

[GohanSSJ]

^Can someone translate that?

Originally posted by Rocz
it is still a waste of a life. no matter what circumstance how ever tragic

Ofcourse it's a waste of life, but just because it is doesn't mean they would have to live their whole life just so that it wasn't a waste...

Then again what is a waste? A person depressed his/her whole life is also a waste imo, but hey that's how it works.

[Tupac]

Originally posted by TONTO2
2 ryts kill y self suppose it works lol aint rly selfish

to right kill your self, suppose it works lol aint really selfish

now that wasnt hard to understand its just tipical internet/txt talk

[RageFire]

Originally posted by Nik-C
Gotta give it to gohan, the guy can arguee. You ever thought of becomign a politicion? (hope I spelt that right)

Nah, you spelt the majority of words wrong, but no1 gives to shits cause this aint an English lesson so don't worry. And Gohan just likes to argue, but his a 1 man band, never really convinces anybody or gets anyone on his side. Then again, his a '1 man band' in a lot of the things he does, if ya get what im sayin.

[GohanSSJ]

I argue, you flame, and that's the only reason because your not a "1 man band" if everyone would stop flaming, and instead make relevant points that don't include something like "You fucking fag, drop dead you cocksucker" then maybe we could have a proper discussion here.