Suicide

[DaCheat]

When I was 15 I tried to shoot myself with a shot gun. My sister caught me in the act and freaked out. She ended up calling my dad, and he ran from work to our house. (only a block away.) The only reason I didn't fallow through with it, is because my sister catching me...

Later on I found out that my Grandma wasn't my biological Grandma, but a step Grandma. My Dad's real Mom killed herself when he was 10...with a shotgun...

After learning that, I could never put him or my mom though that twice, and changed how I felt about a lot of things. Suicide is NEVER the answer. Even if your life is hell, you have to think about everyone else who cares about you.

[Tilk]

. My Dad's real Mom killed herself when he was 10...with a shotgun...

I think u mistype dher age on suicide. Sorry to read ur story m8 but happy u didnt make it.

[DaCheat]

I think u mistype dher age on suicide. Sorry to read ur story m8 but happy u didnt make it.

No it's right, he was only 10 when she killed herself. I forgot to add, he was also the first person to walk in to see the mess that was left over. :(

[RsjMan]

Hello

Suicide is not an good thing my friend , think about ur parents how will they feel if you do that. And what kind of problems do you have ?
is it whit fighting
are you bullyed by someone ?
if it is one of the above things i have a tip for you :

1. find an good Wing Chun School (Yip Man style is the one i do )
2. Kickbox

( Wing chun is the most effective )
But dont misuse these fighting sports :P

I hope i helped you.

RSJ

[Batz]

Hello

Suicide is not an good thing my friend , think about ur parents how will they feel if you do that. And what kind of problems do you have ?
is it whit fighting
are you bullyed by someone ?
if it is one of the above things i have a tip for you :

1. find an good Wing Chun School (Yip Man style is the one i do )
2. Kickbox

( Wing chun is the most effective )
But dont misuse these fighting sports :P

I hope i helped you.

RSJ

If someone was thinking about suicide because they're being bullied. It's obvious that they'll murder the guy then commit suicide... eh?

[ChojiroShintaro]

It's easy to say they are just people who lack confidence or are fat or have no friends just need to be bold, get a life etc, but seriously it's hard to change mindset without some real help. Such people are really alone in general because of why they're depressed. To some people it may sound stupid, but life experiences also play a big part. It's hard to be optimistic if you're depressed. Sometimes things go wrong as well when you get a good chance or you're recovering. So I wouldn't suggest saying such things unless you've been depressed and considered suicide.

As for myself, I've come close to commiting suicide on one or two occasions. I can only hold back because I can convince myself that it isn't worth it. It takes a lot for me to do something extreme in the first place. Most of it boils down to stress. And it takes a long time to get rid of stress.

[GohanSSJ]

I've had friends who tried and commited suicide, and those who survived, tell me, it was the easy way out of those feelings that hunt you down and are slowly killing you. But now they consider themselves cowards, but I still support them and give them my best friend love.

In a way it is the easy way out, but in rare cases there is no way out, so the only way out is the "easy" way out. Never think it is easy, like it has been said, there are usually people left behind heartbroken over it.
People who think they are cowards later on probably just had a weak moment so to speak, people have those, they are quite common, even though very few actually result in a attempt. Those who seriously do it have thought about it for years, they won't think about that later on, they will ofcourse be glad they didn't and all that, but that's a different story.
Anyway that's why real suicides aren't done by cowards, those decisions are extremely hard, and to actually do it is even harder. Again in almost all cases it is the wrong choice.

The fact is that imo the only time that it's easy is when it is imo the "right" choice, if it's so easy to do it, then something really terrible must have happened.

[Intelext]

Nah nevah, I think only dumb people try that shit.

[RsjMan]

If someone was thinking about suicide because they're being bullied. It's obvious that they'll murder the guy then commit suicide... eh?

xD i was thinking about beating up the guy not murder xD
cus beating up will gif you an good feeling
and murdering is also not good :2gunsfiring_v1:
:busted_co:busted_co:busted_co

and when you beated them up they will have respect for you

When you begin to fight : empty your mind , be formless shapeless like water,
when you put water inside a barrel it becomes the barrel when you put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle now water can flow or crash,Be Water my friend.

RSJ

[Wloczykij]

once or twice when i was going down to the ground from LSD trip. and few times when i was really sad. nothing real though...
suicides are cowards who are affraid to take on next day, or hour, or even minute.

[Lee]

suicides are cowards who are affraid to take on next day, or hour, or even minute.

I fail to see how suicide is a cowards thing to do, sometimes it might be the only thing they can do, or atleast feel is the only way out.

Just because you cannot see there point of veiw does not mean its something a coward does. Your in the right frame of mind, how can you be judged because of it?

Everyone is able to give there view, but for someone that says they have thought about it, you really should have more understanding of whats going on in that persons head.

I am not saying suicide is the right thing to do, but when your that low, and cannot see anyway out, it seems the right option at the time.

[Wloczykij]

ok, sorry for this judgement. but i'm not changing my mind Lee. if you're going low - look for help, or at least try to. there's always someone who could help you in one way or another, because it's not like we are alone in this whole world.
maybe it's because i'm an optimist, but still suicide is mostly for people who are affraid of what's going to happen in their life.
Imo there's always some way to leave problems behind. the thing is to be strong. it's easy to say, i know, but commit suicide only when there's no other way. completely no other way...

[Lee]

I don't expect you to change your mind :) just be more understanding of others, and it was not just aimed at you.

[Wloczykij]

yes, you're right... must admit that it was a bit too harsh :/ i hope noone will feel offended, i hope we don't have any suicide-wannabes here.

[GohanSSJ]

ok, sorry for this judgement. but i'm not changing my mind Lee. if you're going low - look for help, or at least try to. there's always someone who could help you in one way or another, because it's not like we are alone in this whole world.
maybe it's because i'm an optimist, but still suicide is mostly for people who are affraid of what's going to happen in their life.
Imo there's always some way to leave problems behind. the thing is to be strong. it's easy to say, i know, but commit suicide only when there's no other way. completely no other way...

Well first of all, i would again like to point at extreme cases, these should proof that there are somethings you can't leave behind, like the example i gave about that woman who had her kids murdered by the guy she loved who committed suicide after, you will break down either way, they either kill themselves, or they every bit of personality and basicly become a drone.

That said, aslong as you think you can get help that can really help you and all that, then you have hope, you have hope for a better life, you know if you pull everything together that you can change your life. These are not usually the people who commit suicide, though if they do do it, then it's really, really messed up, but those are usually not the people who do it, it's those who don't believe they can be helped, that there is no better life, that their completely crap life they got that moment, is the best they will ever have, their outlook on life is only pain and suffering. They have no hope, they have no hope that anything will ever change, so they feel that they have to decide between pain and suffering, and peace.

Like i said, this is very hard to imagine for those who never had any of those feelings, like i said, i did have the hopeless feeling, and trust me, you do not want to expierence that, but if you ever do, then you will understand it, you will still not agree with the choices in most cases, but you will be able to understand how they have those feelings, the feeling that there really is no way out.

Anyway just try to imagine this.

The past 5 years your life has been crap, you don't go to school, you don't have a job, you have no contact with friends and you spend all day at home, you long forgotten why you are in that position. You tried a couple of times to get a job, but since you are no longer the social person you once were, and all your clothes are messed up due to no money to buy new ones, no one wants to hire you, your friends won't bother with you, and even if they would, then they wouldn't walk around with pretty much a homeless person.
You still have your family, but since all your frustration and negativity is outed against them, you don't have a positive feeling with them either.
You feel like everything you do doesn't work out, it takes you months to build up the strength to do something, and when you do you fail at it. The more time that goes by, the harder it becomes to try something. You become bitter, angry, upset, lonely, everything single feeling you got is a negative one and you can't even remember the last time that you felt loved.
You're going in a vicious circle and you don't see a way out anymore, you give up on trying to make a change.
That goes on for a few years, then something snaps, you become really depressed and you want the pain to end, you still don't know the way out, years ago it was already nearly impossible, but now it really is impossible. Then you give up on everything, you live a little while longer, constantly think about suicide, no one has even a clue that you think about it, which makes you even more depressed, and then 1 day you just think, fuck it, i'm done with this, i can't stand the pain anymore.



If that read was depressing, then imagine being actually stuck in that life for years.

[Pfa]

The past 5 years your life has been crap, you don't go to school, you don't have a job, you have no contact with friends and you spend all day at home, you long forgotten why you are in that position. You tried a couple of times to get a job, but since you are no longer the social person you once were, and all your clothes are messed up due to no money to buy new ones, no one wants to hire you, your friends won't bother with you, and even if they would, then they wouldn't walk around with pretty much a homeless person.
You still have your family, but since all your frustration and negativity is outed against them, you don't have a positive feeling with them either.
You feel like everything you do doesn't work out, it takes you months to build up the strength to do something, and when you do you fail at it. The more time that goes by, the harder it becomes to try something. You become bitter, angry, upset, lonely, everything single feeling you got is a negative one and you can't even remember the last time that you felt loved.
You're going in a vicious circle and you don't see a way out anymore, you give up on trying to make a change.
That goes on for a few years, then something snaps, you become really depressed and you want the pain to end, you still don't know the way out, years ago it was already nearly impossible, but now it really is impossible. Then you give up on everything, you live a little while longer, constantly think about suicide, no one has even a clue that you think about it, which makes you even more depressed, and then 1 day you just think, fuck it, i'm done with this, i can't stand the pain anymore.

Holy crap... I can see where I'm headed. Shit, I need out!

[Wloczykij]

Well first of all, i would again like to point at extreme cases, these should proof that there are somethings you can't leave behind, like the example i gave about that woman who had her kids murdered by the guy she loved who committed suicide after, you will break down either way, they either kill themselves, or they every bit of personality and basicly become a drone.

That said, aslong as you think you can get help that can really help you and all that, then you have hope, you have hope for a better life, you know if you pull everything together that you can change your life. These are not usually the people who commit suicide, though if they do do it, then it's really, really messed up, but those are usually not the people who do it, it's those who don't believe they can be helped, that there is no better life, that their completely crap life they got that moment, is the best they will ever have, their outlook on life is only pain and suffering. They have no hope, they have no hope that anything will ever change, so they feel that they have to decide between pain and suffering, and peace.

Like i said, this is very hard to imagine for those who never had any of those feelings, like i said, i did have the hopeless feeling, and trust me, you do not want to expierence that, but if you ever do, then you will understand it, you will still not agree with the choices in most cases, but you will be able to understand how they have those feelings, the feeling that there really is no way out.

Anyway just try to imagine this.

The past 5 years your life has been crap, you don't go to school, you don't have a job, you have no contact with friends and you spend all day at home, you long forgotten why you are in that position. You tried a couple of times to get a job, but since you are no longer the social person you once were, and all your clothes are messed up due to no money to buy new ones, no one wants to hire you, your friends won't bother with you, and even if they would, then they wouldn't walk around with pretty much a homeless person.
You still have your family, but since all your frustration and negativity is outed against them, you don't have a positive feeling with them either.
You feel like everything you do doesn't work out, it takes you months to build up the strength to do something, and when you do you fail at it. The more time that goes by, the harder it becomes to try something. You become bitter, angry, upset, lonely, everything single feeling you got is a negative one and you can't even remember the last time that you felt loved.
You're going in a vicious circle and you don't see a way out anymore, you give up on trying to make a change.
That goes on for a few years, then something snaps, you become really depressed and you want the pain to end, you still don't know the way out, years ago it was already nearly impossible, but now it really is impossible. Then you give up on everything, you live a little while longer, constantly think about suicide, no one has even a clue that you think about it, which makes you even more depressed, and then 1 day you just think, fuck it, i'm done with this, i can't stand the pain anymore.



If that read was depressing, then imagine being actually stuck in that life for years.

yeah, these are extreme conditions (that's why i wrote about completely no other way), but look at suicides today... they are well known, they are social and people like them. I know, not all of them, but a lot of people who kill themselves really are... The point is that if you reach the bottom there's always one point. A point where you just have to bounce off. Sometimes it's hard to get it but it is possible. It's same case as with alcohol/drugs. If you won't do it - you're screwed.
As i said i'm an optimist. I also have my better and worse moments, but i at least rty to tell myself that it's going to be better. Not tomorrow then at the day after tomorrow.

[GohanSSJ]

Actually those conditions aren't as extreme as you may think, obviously it doesn't happen that much, but a lot of the suicides have expierenced that or something quite similar.