Suicide on flashback(Live stream) today in Sweden.

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Originally Posted by ŽÄK

I Been In Habbo Since 2007 LOL And Had No Intensions Of Suicide lol

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Nah, proves you had the intention of having no life.

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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ

Mom comes home finds boyfriend and her 3 childeren dead, the bf killed them and then hung himself.
Kid gets raped, beaten and mentally fucked every single day.
Your name is vLife and you are too fucking stupid to understand that there are cases where there is no hope anymore, where your life is and will be so complete shit where you will never feel again due to damage done that all you can do is go through life as a robot.
Tbh I'd say the third one is the best reason to do it.

Right, because you actually know it all? You know how weak those people are, you know how pathetic it is. Yet you've never even came close to most of the people that commit suicide.

You guys seriously either need to stfu, or go meet people who have attempted this or are seriously thinking about it and talk to them, you have absolutely no clue how this goes.

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I have met people who attempted suicide. And my post was primilarily aimed at people who do it because they believe their lives suck for no reason. Not people who've been tramatized by some hypothetical event like the one you described above. Sorry Benjy. Suicide IS pathetic if you have no actual reason to do it.

I don't know what part of my post escapes your understanding, but I thought I kind of hinted that unless something is wrong with you mentally, then Suicide is ridiculous. For example, If you get made fun of at school and decide you can't handle it and feel the need to kill yourself, you're weak.

Shinija Its a Game Im 13 Atm So mhhm wtf lol,

To people saying he didn't have social skills I am not so sure about that :P
http://www.facebook.com/LurifaxFlux
He had like 400+ friends xD.

At the moment people are writing a LOT of threads about the topic on flashback (the forum) and speculations about that people with aspergers are fascinated by the fact of death and want explore it etc. So that could possibly be a factor. His suicide note says he just couldn't deal with stuff so.

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Suicide note:
av Marcus Jannes kl. den 11 oktober 2010 kl. 13:12
by Marcus Jannes the 11th october 2010 at 13:12

Jahapp.. nu sitter jag här och ska ta livet av mig.
Allright... so here I sit and am going to commit suicide.

Undrar var jag hamnar...
I wonder where I will end up...

Var hela livet kanske ett test på hur länge man står ut?
Was life just a test on how long you could hold on?

Om jag återföds hoppas jag iaf att jag inte föds i den här tiden (och inte tidigare heller) eller på den här planeten.
If I am reborn I hope that I wont be reborn in this time (or earlier) or even on this planet.

Älskar hela min familj mer än allt, men ärligt talat så kan man inte leva för någon annans skull...
I love my whole family more than anything, but to be honest you can't live for someone else s sake.



Tycker inte mitt liv är dåligt alls, det är faktiskt riktigt bra.
I don't think my life is bad at all, it's actually pretty good.

Men ibland är det helt enkelt för svårt.
But sometimes it's just too hard.

Orkar inte skriva mer nu.
I'm too tired to write anymore now.



Hej då :)
Good Bye :)

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"I don't think my life is bad at all, it's actually pretty good.
But sometimes it's just too hard."

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Originally Posted by jMerliN

What this guy did was quite selfish. Wasting taxpayer money, wasting peoples' time, involving people who have no need to be involved and being an attention whore. An inconsiderate asshole in the least and he won't be missed. Goodbye and good riddance, the fewer people we have like him, the better.

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Trust me, he didn't waste taxpayers money, infact he did the opposit, people who want to end their life but don't, usually cost the state more then those who actually go through with.

While I do not condone the way he did this (very disturbing), the fact remains that he obviously felt like there was no point living anymore, regardless what you think of him (and since you don't know him, that slate should be pretty much blank), the fact that he felt that way is quite bad.
I don't expect people to care, just like I don't, I do however care what peoples views on this is, and no, not because I give a shit what you think, but mostly because when you express those views towards a person who feels that way, you will royally screw them up, and unlike you guys, I actually want to help people and not make them kill themselves, well not most anyway...

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Originally Posted by Vendaku~Metal

I have met people who attempted suicide. And my post was primilarily aimed at people who do it because they believe their lives suck for no reason. Not people who've been tramatized by some hypothetical event like the one you described above. Sorry Benjy. Suicide IS pathetic if you have no actual reason to do it.

I don't know what part of my post escapes your understanding, but I thought I kind of hinted that unless something is wrong with you mentally, then Suicide is ridiculous. For example, If you get made fun of at school and decide you can't handle it and feel the need to kill yourself, you're weak.

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People don't just do it because their life sucks for no reason, for a person to get to the point where the actually end their life (this is different from people claiming to do it to get attention), there needs to be a whole lot more then just that their life sucks. For people to end their life they need to have lost hope, lost the hope that their life will improve, aslong as their is hope people will keep fighting, it is when they believe that there is no way out, that no matter how much you fight things will not change, that people start thinking about suicide. Now generally, unless there is a mental illness involved, people won't just do it right away the first moment they feel shit, this usually takes months if not years. This is also the reason why they won't call something depression unless it's been going on for a longer period of time.
If someone gets teased at school then they won't just kill themself, however teenagers do kill themselves when they think they are worthless, have no one around who thinks otherwise (family excluded since kids find their family not a reliable source - and rightfully so), and feels nothing in their life will change so that they will just get teased in college, get teased at work etc. Again, when they have no hope things will change. Is that weak? Who knows, personally I find the question of weak and strong a rather difficult one, I know people who are emotionally messed up because of it, people you would consider weak, whereas I also know people who made them so extremely 'tough' that they are emotionally dead, not letting anything inside to protect themself. So is it weaker to experience the emotions, or to block them? Face them head on or run away from it?
People who commit suicide always have a reason, just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. In the Netherlands a actor/singer killed himself last week, he had a wife and kids, pretty good career, plenty of money etc. So why did he do it? Basicly you can't judge that, you don't know how he felt, even if he had told you, you still wouldn't have understood it. For someone to go against their survival instinct and end their life, is something so intense, that feeling must be unbareble for someone.

As for hypothetical... they aren't, they just aren't. You have no idea in the few years I'm doing this, how much I've seen, how those hypothetical situations become reality, reality that I see everyday.

I don't expect for people to understand this all, I do expect people to not talk about something you don't know. This forum is filled with depressed people, so many teenagers suffer from it, whether you think it is pathetic or not, the reality for them stays the same, a reality where they feel life won't improve, the least you all can do is respect those feelings and not run your mouth when you don't even know what it is about.

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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ

Trust me, he didn't waste taxpayers money, infact he did the opposit, people who want to end their life but don't, usually cost the state more then those who actually go through with.

While I do not condone the way he did this (very disturbing), the fact remains that he obviously felt like there was no point living anymore, regardless what you think of him (and since you don't know him, that slate should be pretty much blank), the fact that he felt that way is quite bad.
I don't expect people to care, just like I don't, I do however care what peoples views on this is, and no, not because I give a shit what you think, but mostly because when you express those views towards a person who feels that way, you will royally screw them up, and unlike you guys, I actually want to help people and not make them kill themselves, well not most anyway...

People don't just do it because their life sucks for no reason, for a person to get to the point where the actually end their life (this is different from people claiming to do it to get attention), there needs to be a whole lot more then just that their life sucks. For people to end their life they need to have lost hope, lost the hope that their life will improve, aslong as their is hope people will keep fighting, it is when they believe that there is no way out, that no matter how much you fight things will not change, that people start thinking about suicide. Now generally, unless there is a mental illness involved, people won't just do it right away the first moment they feel shit, this usually takes months if not years. This is also the reason why they won't call something depression unless it's been going on for a longer period of time.
If someone gets teased at school then they won't just kill themself, however teenagers do kill themselves when they think they are worthless, have no one around who thinks otherwise (family excluded since kids find their family not a reliable source - and rightfully so), and feels nothing in their life will change so that they will just get teased in college, get teased at work etc. Again, when they have no hope things will change. Is that weak? Who knows, personally I find the question of weak and strong a rather difficult one, I know people who are emotionally messed up because of it, people you would consider weak, whereas I also know people who made them so extremely 'tough' that they are emotionally dead, not letting anything inside to protect themself. So is it weaker to experience the emotions, or to block them? Face them head on or run away from it?
People who commit suicide always have a reason, just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. In the Netherlands a actor/singer killed himself last week, he had a wife and kids, pretty good career, plenty of money etc. So why did he do it? Basicly you can't judge that, you don't know how he felt, even if he had told you, you still wouldn't have understood it. For someone to go against their survival instinct and end their life, is something so intense, that feeling must be unbareble for someone.

As for hypothetical... they aren't, they just aren't. You have no idea in the few years I'm doing this, how much I've seen, how those hypothetical situations become reality, reality that I see everyday.

I don't expect for people to understand this all, I do expect people to not talk about something you don't know. This forum is filled with depressed people, so many teenagers suffer from it, whether you think it is pathetic or not, the reality for them stays the same, a reality where they feel life won't improve, the least you all can do is respect those feelings and not run your mouth when you don't even know what it is about.

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People commit suicide just in my city in the netherlands weekly already, all students. Are their situations relevant to this one, no they are not. Enough said.

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Originally Posted by EnhancedGFX

People commit suicide just in my city in the netherlands weekly already, all students. Are their situations relevant to this one, no they are not. Enough said.

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So when are you going to commit suicide? Remember, a better world starts with you... ending it.

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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ

So when are you going to commit suicide? Remember, a better world starts with you... ending it.

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A better wold starts with improving yourself. You are a preacher, your words have no value at all. Instead of typing here, go do something that has an actual result then pretending to be a scholar lecturing us. Go join PETS. People for the ethical treatment of suiciders.

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Originally Posted by EnhancedGFX

A better wold starts with improving yourself. You are a preacher, your words have no value at all. Instead of typing here, go do something that has an actual result then pretending to be a scholar lecturing us. Go join PETS. People for the ethical treatment of suiciders.

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Touched a nerve huh?
Awesome.

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Originally Posted by GohanSSJ

Touched a nerve huh?
Awesome.

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Not really, i was simply being ignorant to what you said, and applied your own words to yourself.

Let me repeat for the slow ones among us.
Preaching has no effect, go practical.

Save me the breath, shit happens everyday. And because one guy does it live its now a problem. I could care less about what happens to people in society.
You acting like you know him or some shit.

Do I know anyone like that? Does it matter to me?
Answer is NO.

Why?

Cause you can pray.

My name is vLife and I am 2 stupid.
Your name is GohanSSJ ... nice name calling.

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Originally Posted by vLife

Save me the breath, shit happens everyday. And because one guy does it live its now a problem. I could care less about what happens to people in society.
You acting like you know him or some shit.

Do I know anyone like that? Does it matter to me?
Answer is NO.

Why?

Cause you can pray.

My name is vLife and I am 2 stupid.
Your name is GohanSSJ ... nice name calling.

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Will you hang out with me?

That is not possible as I probably live hundreds of thousands miles away.

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Originally Posted by vLife

Save me the breath, shit happens everyday. And because one guy does it live its now a problem. I could care less about what happens to people in society.
You acting like you know him or some shit.

Do I know anyone like that? Does it matter to me?
Answer is NO.

Why?

Cause you can pray.

My name is vLife and I am 2 stupid.
Your name is GohanSSJ ... nice name calling.

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I don't ask you to care, I don't ask you to say something nice, I don't ask you to understand, I do expect you to stfu when you have no idea what you are talking about.

You said I can't think of 3 reasons why people would commit suicide, I gave you 3 and I could give you another 20 no problem.

1 of the most important things in my work is to not judge, to not go from what I know and determine whether they did the right thing or not. What might seem right to you or me, is wrong for someone else. Without truly understanding what someone feels, you simply cannot judge them on their actions.

You have no right to speak about that that you don't understand or wish to understand, it's fine if you don't want to understand, frankly I would wish we lived in a world where no one would understand it as it would mean no one would want to commit suicide anymore, but the fact is that we live in a world where some people can destroy others, abusing them physically, mentally and sexually, where people can loose entire families at once, where life can get so bad that they don't see a way out and loose all hope.

I hope you will never have to truly understand that, but until then, stfu.