the greatest story ever told

[SiK]

/waits for the christian fundamentalists to invade this thread, lower our I.Q levels and deem this video a work of satan

Yea, I was really expecting Ksharks to be all over this;

"What is this blasphemous work!? Let ME straighten all of YOU out, first off all <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda> and thats why Jesus is <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda>! To believe this video is to <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda> and you'll be cast down into the bowls of <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda>. God is all <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda> but he is also <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda>. Save your soul's and go to church!

P.S SiK <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda>

Hmm, talk about plagiarism, eh?

How so? They cite all references on their site: Zeitgeist - The Movie, 2007

[LordDemonMan]

...
How so? They cite all references on their site: Zeitgeist - The Movie, 2007

I, was, referring, to, religion. -_-

[Vendaku~Metal]

Yea, I was really expecting Ksharks to be all over this;

"What is this blasphemous work!? Let ME straighten all of YOU out, first off all <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda> and thats why Jesus is <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda>! To believe this video is to <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda> and you'll be cast down into the bowls of <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda>. God is all <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda> but he is also <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda>. Save your soul's and go to church!

P.S SiK <Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda><Insert Theoretical Religious Propaganda>



How so? They cite all references on their site: Zeitgeist - The Movie, 2007

I lol'd. =d

Too true.

[GOD]

That's all fake! I created the sun!

[gReGiTh]

something else i understand is that the age of aquarious is dawning now, it doesnt start in 2150 that's when it's in full effect, 2012 is an important date to the mayans and all civilizations that knew about the ages.

I was wondering about that. It'd completely suck if the new age didn't begin till 2150.
Btw, in one of those videos, they had an audio clip from that vid you posted of Ram Dass on LSD.

[exclamatio]

I was wondering about that. It'd completely suck if the new age didn't begin till 2150.
Btw, in one of those videos, they had an audio clip from that vid you posted of Ram Dass on LSD.

aye thats right, well spotted mate

[gReGiTh]

This video expands alot on the ideas in Part 3:

The Capitalist Conspiracy: An Inside View of International Banking by G. Edward

It's a bit more boring though. =\

[linklink88]

Very interesting indeed.

[scrat55]

Wow taht was absolutely crazy! and amazing... the truth is revealed!

nice find Ex.

watching the 2nd and 3rd right now.


~Captain Scrat~

[Akai]

So, before I finish watching this. Is this promoting Christianity?

[linklink88]

Promoting? It's telling you Christianity is all fake!

[Mickey]

So, before I finish watching this. Is this promoting Christianity?

Not really, all it's saying is that Christianity is just material plagiarized from the Sun.

[LightWarrior]

Im my opinion all we can do is wait and see if it really happends...

[Akai]

Not really, all it's saying is that Christianity is just material plagiarized from the Sun.

Good, because I'm tired of all those videos saying Christianity is true lol. I'll watch it then.

[TheJAZZman]

nicely done, this was cool - thanks

10/10

[FragFrog]

Totally worthless.

Only watched the first 15 minutes or so but that was enough to make me want to vomit. Yeah, it all sounds good, but has anyone here even bothered to check any of the facts stated? Just a few of the mistakes:

Shortest day, dec 22 not true. It varies, and in fact is usually on december 21.
December 25 being important: not true. The whole calender as we know it didn't even exist in the time most religions were quoted to have some kind of saviour.
Horus comes from a virgin. not true. Horus is the son of Osiris and child of Isis, who was most definately not a virgin.

The list goes on and on, and that's just what I noticed after watching parts of it once. Someone randomly stating falsehoods might sound interesting, but it's about as scientificly sound as that stupid 9/11 video that has been circulating around.

True, there are remarking similarities between Christianity and some older religions, and I do not doubt that it is possible that a lot of elements were 'borrowed' from other cultures, but putting some fancy music under that and stating it as fact is a completely different matter.

There is however one lesson one can learn from watching this video: stay sceptical! Never assume something is true just because someone with a pleasent voice and nice imagery tells you it is!

[Robert]

dec 21 and 22 are close enough imo.
the date might not have existed but the propertys of that day would still exist surely?
no idea about people being virgins, i dont think it really matters since its refering to an object not a person.

There are a list of references here: Zeitgeist - The Movie, 2007

[exclamatio]

So, before I finish watching this. Is this promoting Christianity?

it isnt promoting anything :P

Promoting? It's telling you Christianity is all fake!

nope, just that it is mostly misunderstood in modern times

Not really, all it's saying is that Christianity is just material plagiarized from the Sun.

i disagree, its saying that it is the same belief system with a different face, obviously it has no been comercialized in many places but the under lieing beliefs are the same

Im my opinion all we can do is wait and see if it really happends...

of course!

Totally worthless.

i disagree grately!

Only watched the first 15 minutes or so but that was enough to make me want to vomit. Yeah, it all sounds good, but has anyone here even bothered to check any of the facts stated? Just a few of the mistakes:

of course! this is something i research almost everyday!

Shortest day, dec 22 not true. It varies, and in fact is usually on december 21.

of course it varies, its 11:33am here right now but im pretty sure it isnt in australia!

December 25 being important: not true. The whole calender as we know it didn't even exist in the time most religions were quoted to have some kind of saviour.

dont forget this is not a belief system orientated around the gregorian calander, it is based on the sun and the stars!

now whether or not you call it december 25th or not, the stars are still in the same place

just because you are called fruityfrog now does not mean in thousands of years when historians refer to you as fruitalicousfrog that you were any different, its just a name :P

Horus comes from a virgin. not true. Horus is the son of Osiris and child of Isis, who was most definately not a virgin.

that depends actually, there is a standard view in egyptology that osiris was the love child of geb and nut but do not forget it is also thought that he could have been the sun of ra!

the fact is there are conflicting stories and people cant really seem to study it objectively and agree on what is really being told

now as there is so much evidence of this sun/star worship with certain saviours or gods being the face of it id like to think he was born of immaculate conception

The list goes on and on, and that's just what I noticed after watching parts of it once. Someone randomly stating falsehoods might sound interesting, but it's about as scientificly sound as that stupid 9/11 video that has been circulating around.

True, there are remarking similarities between Christianity and some older religions, and I do not doubt that it is possible that a lot of elements were 'borrowed' from other cultures, but putting some fancy music under that and stating it as fact is a completely different matter.

There is however one lesson one can learn from watching this video: stay sceptical! Never assume something is true just because someone with a pleasent voice and nice imagery tells you it is!

do not forget that the official story for 9/11 is pretty stupid :P

constantine actually changed christianty from what it was to what he really needed it to be, as a result of the roman army being far too thinly spread he knew that with roughly 1/10 romans being a christian he could have a lot more support with christianity as the main religion, he however did not change his personal beliefs and carried on worshipping the sun and/or its many faces

stay skeptical yes!
if you are truely skeptical then dont take this video as gospel go and look for as many other sources as you can, go and research both sides of the story so to speak

do not try to proove nor disproove it, just educate yourself on the matter untill you have enough material to make a real decision, and then go find some more material on it!

[angelz4697]

i didnt get the movie, but it was quite interesting. ^^

[FragFrog]

that depends actually, there is a standard view in egyptology that osiris was the love child of geb and nut but do not forget it is also thought that he could have been the sun of ra!

the fact is there are conflicting stories and people cant really seem to study it objectively and agree on what is really being told

now as there is so much evidence of this sun/star worship with certain saviours or gods being the face of it id like to think he was born of immaculate conception

Of course after thousend of years details get smeared out, but that wasn't my point. My point was that they bring it as facts while they are theories at best.

stay skeptical yes!
if you are truely skeptical then dont take this video as gospel go and look for as many other sources as you can, go and research both sides of the story so to speak

do not try to proove nor disproove it, just educate yourself on the matter untill you have enough material to make a real decision, and then go find some more material on it!

With this I completely agree, but it is also why I hate movies as these: they just spawn hundreds of facts at you, some true, some false, some doubtfully either, but bring it in such a way that you think they are all true. In a similar matter I could wrap up a movie about the earth being flat in a few hours and have people believe me as well, even though as an astrophysicist I'm fairly certain such is not the case

The point I'm trying to make is that the movie is biased and subjective, it is very hard to keep your objectivity while watching crap as this. They might have made a valid point, but I refuse to listen to it because the way they try to impose it on you.

There are way better scientific sources one can read. I know, might not be as accesable for a broader public as this, but at least they are worth reading.

[TheJAZZman]

FragFrag's right - When I first watched it - I was caught up in it because it wasn't boring and it all pieced together seemingly like a perfect jigsaw puzzle..O I was amazed...

he may be right or wrong -- all I know is it would really piss me off if ANYONE were able to convince an entire public that a said truth was true, when it was nothing but horse talk -- I'd be upset that everyone blindly believed a good speaker, not that he spoke his mind lol.

Unfortunately, the first time I watched it, I was caught a little off guard, and more WOWed by it than anything -- Rightfully so if it's all true, but unfortunately, it's up to each individual viewer to look into it -- and most wont -- I'm guilty, I was sitting there nodding uh huh, oh ya, most of the way through lol. I hate that I was sucked in without thought.

I still rate it 10/10 for a topic, it's an eye opener and if you watch it with the right skepticism, it gives you a lot to think about. Thanks for posting it!

[exclamatio]

Of course after thousend of years details get smeared out, but that wasn't my point. My point was that they bring it as facts while they are theories at best.

what im saying is that it was true at the time it started and it wasnt that it was smeared out over time just that the timeing of everything has changed a little, the stars arnt in the same place they were 25k years ago etc but everything is still practicing/worshiped etc on the same day as it was all those years ago regardless of whether it is slightly innacurate now

so in the video they could have pointed that out, but they were sticking to the "facts" or rather points as they were at time of being discovered and converted into a belief system