Tired/weary body

Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    (oO (||||) (||||) Oo) jM2.me is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Aug 2009 Join Date
    USA (Fuck Yeah)Location
    2,527Posts

    Tired/weary body

    Maybe this is more of "heath" related question but we got no health section here.
    Anyway for past hell knows how many months I have been feeling tired. Not me but rather my body. And by body I can say bones/muscles.

    I am 5'7" 120lb skinnyish type of guy. Everyday activity involves a lot of sitting down and standing up, moving, walking, running, lifting (anywhere from 1 pound to 75 pounds). Also lot's of driving. Pretty much I work for local delivery company (like UPS, Fedex, DHL...)

    A while back I was also trying Russian Bear 5000 weight gainer, and as far as I remember my body felt good while I was taking it. Which makes me think that my current diet doesn't include proteins/calories. I tried changing my diet but it didn't really help, I guess.

    Anyway what I am asking is could the weight gainer really provide additional calories and get rid of my weary body/muscles/bones?


  2. #2
    F**KIN LEGEND! exclamatio is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Jan 2003 Join Date
    Merry EnglandLocation
    22,146Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    It sounds like you aren't getting enough energy so it could be a few things.

    Calories, you should go to CRON-O-Meter: Track nutrition & count calories and plug in what you ate for the last few weeks, if you could share some info on your intake of calories and their proportions like what % carbs, protein and fat. It could be you are getting too much fat or too much protein as a % of total calorie intake and this is causing you problems too.

    It could be sleep, are you getting enough restful sleep? Turn off all electronics around your sleeping area, sleep with the window open to make sure you are getting cleaner air and not just stewing in the same air all night. How many restful hours of sleep would you say you got on average over a month?

    the weight gainer will be providing a source of extra calories and probably stimulation too.

  3. #3
    (oO (||||) (||||) Oo) jM2.me is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Aug 2009 Join Date
    USA (Fuck Yeah)Location
    2,527Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    Quote Originally Posted by exclamatio View Post
    It sounds like you aren't getting enough energy so it could be a few things.

    Calories, you should go to CRON-O-Meter: Track nutrition & count calories and plug in what you ate for the last few weeks, if you could share some info on your intake of calories and their proportions like what % carbs, protein and fat. It could be you are getting too much fat or too much protein as a % of total calorie intake and this is causing you problems too.

    It could be sleep, are you getting enough restful sleep? Turn off all electronics around your sleeping area, sleep with the window open to make sure you are getting cleaner air and not just stewing in the same air all night. How many restful hours of sleep would you say you got on average over a month?

    the weight gainer will be providing a source of extra calories and probably stimulation too.
    I think I don't get good sleep anymore because my body is tired.

    I checked cron-o-meter and I don't think I can be consistent with filling in everything I eat.
    Plus I don't think I can find fat/carb/protein info about every single thing I eat. For example I just a warm sandwish with roasted turkey, cheese and tomatoes. Bread, yes I can find out some info, but as for the rest idk.

    Any recomendations what kind of product can provide additional energy, kinda like something to go with whatever I eat.

  4. #4
    Grand Master DarkKnightH20 is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Jul 2006 Join Date
    Magic SchoolbusLocation
    1,665Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    Not sure how old you are, but yeah you definitely need to up your calorie intake.

    I know it's annoying to do, but you should keep a nutrition journal (at least for a week or so) where you write down everything you eat and the total calories (if you happen to know). You can figure out what your calorie goal is from calorie calculators such as the one posted by exclamatio from his laptop within his hyperbolic timechamber =p

    Another calorie calculator (but less elaborate): Calories Per Day Calculator - Basal Metabolic Rate

    If you can't be arsed to write the calories or guestimate them, then just write down what you ate and feel free to post it on here. A couple of days worth should give us a good idea of your eating habbits.

    Make sure that you eat useful calories though. Also keep in mind that your portions size matters (such as eating 5 small meals a day vs 2) and that the time in which you eat matters too (eating before you sleep vs earlier in the day while you are active).

    Many people have an issue where they cannot eat enough food in a given day (and I totally relate to this). They're usually too full still or lack time. If you lack time, then bring snacks with you. If you're simply too full though, then unfortunately you just have to suck it up and eat anyway. Your body isn't use to eating enough so just like you train your mind, muscles, and heart, you must also train your stomach / metabolism / etc.

    On that note, you should take protein shakes. They can be energizing as well and they also add additional calories. Not to mention they're fucking delicious! =P ON Whey protein is what I take. However, if you really want to get into it, also get casein protein. Casein is absorbed more slowly by our body whereas whey is absorbed fast. You probably no where I'm going with this -- take casein before you sleep and whey casually in the day (especially good a bit before/after lifting).

    This is definitely not the reason why you're tired, but scientifically speaking, if you do not get enough sunlight every day, your energy levels will drop too and you'll start lacking another vitamin -- vitamin K -- which our entire generation now lacks because of computers and video games. In fact, there was an article before that said this generation is the first generation to have a lower lifespan than the last because of that, but it could be BS.

    Another issue, which may not relate to you at all (though IS possible if your food intake is low) is that you could be neglecting an important vitamin. I for one had iron deficiency when I was younger, and that made me tired all the time. It doesn't have to necessarily be iron either, as neglecting other vitamins causes the same issue. I recommend taking a multivitamin in the morning with some food. Keep in mind though that if it IS iron specifically that you're lacking, that multivitamins don't often include iron unless they're designed for WOMEN (they need the extra iron since they bleed every month and need to recoup their blood...).

    Anyway -- the short and skinny of it all is to eat more and take a multivitamin. You don't need protein shakes or weight gainers necessarily (they're optional), but they can help a lot if you're willing to dish out the extra cash, which (in my opinion), you should since it is effecting the quality of your life. Being tired all the time is no fun.

  5. #5
    (oO (||||) (||||) Oo) jM2.me is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Aug 2009 Join Date
    USA (Fuck Yeah)Location
    2,527Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkKnightH20 View Post
    Not sure how old you are, but yeah you definitely need to up your calorie intake.

    I know it's annoying to do, but you should keep a nutrition journal (at least for a week or so) where you write down everything you eat and the total calories (if you happen to know). You can figure out what your calorie goal is from calorie calculators such as the one posted by exclamatio from his laptop within his hyperbolic timechamber =p

    Another calorie calculator (but less elaborate): Calories Per Day Calculator - Basal Metabolic Rate

    If you can't be arsed to write the calories or guestimate them, then just write down what you ate and feel free to post it on here. A couple of days worth should give us a good idea of your eating habbits.

    Make sure that you eat useful calories though. Also keep in mind that your portions size matters (such as eating 5 small meals a day vs 2) and that the time in which you eat matters too (eating before you sleep vs earlier in the day while you are active).

    Many people have an issue where they cannot eat enough food in a given day (and I totally relate to this). They're usually too full still or lack time. If you lack time, then bring snacks with you. If you're simply too full though, then unfortunately you just have to suck it up and eat anyway. Your body isn't use to eating enough so just like you train your mind, muscles, and heart, you must also train your stomach / metabolism / etc.

    On that note, you should take protein shakes. They can be energizing as well and they also add additional calories. Not to mention they're fucking delicious! =P ON Whey protein is what I take. However, if you really want to get into it, also get casein protein. Casein is absorbed more slowly by our body whereas whey is absorbed fast. You probably no where I'm going with this -- take casein before you sleep and whey casually in the day (especially good a bit before/after lifting).

    This is definitely not the reason why you're tired, but scientifically speaking, if you do not get enough sunlight every day, your energy levels will drop too and you'll start lacking another vitamin -- vitamin K -- which our entire generation now lacks because of computers and video games. In fact, there was an article before that said this generation is the first generation to have a lower lifespan than the last because of that, but it could be BS.

    Another issue, which may not relate to you at all (though IS possible if your food intake is low) is that you could be neglecting an important vitamin. I for one had iron deficiency when I was younger, and that made me tired all the time. It doesn't have to necessarily be iron either, as neglecting other vitamins causes the same issue. I recommend taking a multivitamin in the morning with some food. Keep in mind though that if it IS iron specifically that you're lacking, that multivitamins don't often include iron unless they're designed for WOMEN (they need the extra iron since they bleed every month and need to recoup their blood...).

    Anyway -- the short and skinny of it all is to eat more and take a multivitamin. You don't need protein shakes or weight gainers necessarily (they're optional), but they can help a lot if you're willing to dish out the extra cash, which (in my opinion), you should since it is effecting the quality of your life. Being tired all the time is no fun.
    Well as of today I am 19. I have to admit I do tend to eat less than I used to 5-6 years ago. For example today in the morning I had nothing but during work (6 hours) I ate some (small) pretzels. When I got home I had half pita with turkey breast, cheese, and tomatoes. Then I had a small piece of cake. Then a full pita with turkey, cheese and tomatoes. That is pretty much it, and holy shit I ate almost nothing. Tho I feel pretty full.

    Last time I tried to push it and eat more, I threw up. Which is like WTF.

    Couple days ago had two mcdonalds sausage mcmuffins and later that day some rice with beef. Of course some snaks.

    Also checked the calculator. I need at least 2000 calories. There is no way I am getting enough.

  6. #6
    F**KIN LEGEND! exclamatio is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Jan 2003 Join Date
    Merry EnglandLocation
    22,146Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    Well from what you've said you are almost certainly getting most of your calories from fat. This is a problem because when you have mostly fat as your source of energy your body loves to store it and it also inhibits your bodies ability to use oxygen! So you are not getting enough energy day to day anyway so what will happen is you will burn out your adrenal glands until everyday you just feel "flat" and need pick me ups like caffeine etc that will burn you out even faster.

    The only "product" you need to give you more energy is fruit. Get ahold of a butt load of fruit and eat as much as you can, fruit that's ready to eat is sweet and delicious so this bit is easy. The fruit has high water and high fibre aswell as being a great source of energy, vitamins and minerals.

    Did you even try using cronometer? It really does have a large selection of items in it, just enter them separately. So if you have a turkey, cheese and tomato sandwich enter is as 150g turkey (or whatever it weighs), 20g cheese, 30g tomato, 2 slices bread. It will break down the rest for you, you shouldn't have to fill in the nutritional info yourself, it tells you.

  7. #7
    (oO (||||) (||||) Oo) jM2.me is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Aug 2009 Join Date
    USA (Fuck Yeah)Location
    2,527Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    So I tried the cron-o meter for past three days including today.
    Looks like I get my protein and carbs, half of carbs, and about 1/3 of energy.
    Yet I have not included any exercises (not like I do any). Tho I think what I do at work can count as exercise.

  8. #8
    Grand Master DarkKnightH20 is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Jul 2006 Join Date
    Magic SchoolbusLocation
    1,665Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    Just to put things a bit more in perspective -- I am 5'8" and at your age I weighed probably around 140lbs and was at around 7% bodyfat, which is pretty darn low. When I was around 16 or so, I weighed 130lbs.

    Anyway, I think you know when I'm getting at. 19 year old JM2 has to gain more weight than 16 year old DK or the world may very well implode!

    Do you drink water often? If you don't -- that's a potential problem right there. People who don't drink water lack energy because of it. This is a problem I actually have, but it's easy to fix. If you DO drink water often, then try replacing some of it with juice or something healthy that provides additional calories. If you don't though, then start with water and then when you're use to drinking enough, add juice to the mix.

    I found that it's easier to meet your day-to-day requirements for water if you don't have to fill up the bottle too much so a bigger water bottle is good: Amazon.com: Nalgene Tritan Wide Mouth BPA-Free Water Bottle: Sports & Outdoors

    If you get a 32oz bottle (like one of the sexy ones in the link above), you'll only need to drink it twice to meet your requirement for daily water consumption. If you're a fan of tea, then you could make tea instead in these bottles, which can provide a little bit of caffeine as well. Depending on the type of tea, the caffeine will be absorbed slowly in your body and give you a bit of energy throughout the day rather than being absorbed fast like coffee.

    Some info on your ideal weight:
    Ideal Weight and Height Chart | Body Mass Index Chart | Rush

    The chart above is not 100% accurate of course and there are better ways of calculating your ideal weight, but it's straight to the point. Your ideal weight is between 133 - 163 lbs (pretty broad!). Just remember to try to throw in extra calories bit-by-bit when you can.

    Having been a hard gainer myself, I completely understand the situation you're in and feeling nauseated when trying to eat more food than usual is no fun. Your body just needs to get use to it though.

    I know some people can't be arsed to have breakfast in the morning, and if you are unable to then istead of skipping breakfast from now on you should try and start your morning with a drink such as one of these:
    Nestle Carnation Instant Breakfast Essentials, Classic French Vanilla Powder, 10-Count Envelopes (Pack of 6): Amazon.com: Grocery & Gourmet Food

    I can vouch that the chocolate ones taste super good. These are also available in powder form if you want to mix them yourself, but that takes more time. You won't gain weight from it, but your body will be happier.

  9. #9
    F**KIN LEGEND! exclamatio is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Jan 2003 Join Date
    Merry EnglandLocation
    22,146Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    Quote Originally Posted by jM2.me View Post
    So I tried the cron-o meter for past three days including today.
    Looks like I get my protein and carbs, half of carbs, and about 1/3 of energy.
    Yet I have not included any exercises (not like I do any). Tho I think what I do at work can count as exercise.
    Share some of the figures otherwise it's no more helpful lol

  10. #10
    Grand Master DarkKnightH20 is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Jul 2006 Join Date
    Magic SchoolbusLocation
    1,665Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    Quote Originally Posted by exclamatio View Post
    Share some of the figures otherwise it's no more helpful lol
    Ja. You gotta share your figures so we can help your figure

    Spoiler:

  11. #11
    (oO (||||) (||||) Oo) jM2.me is offline
    Grand MasterRank
    Aug 2009 Join Date
    USA (Fuck Yeah)Location
    2,527Posts

    Re: Tired/weary body

    So I stopped using the site week ago.

    Also turns out my body feel tired because of my muscles. Because of all the lifting, walking, sitting, etc my muscles are very tense.
    So 3-4 more massage sessions and should be better



Advertisement