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Sorry to break it to you Mr.Accomplished 22 Year old with a Degree in History, but Steel, does, not, melt, at, those, temperatures. I've seen you throw around your little 22 years old and History Degree line a couple times on this site, what, you think that makes you special? Just because you wasted your life being brainwashed and taught a bunch of rubbish that was written by Black-Label Communists? Having a Degree in History does not automatically sustain any fact that you know less nor more about anything (Especially about buildings collapsing) than any of us do, that just means you have been feeding into the lies and fairy-tales of these History books. Anyways, enough about that, once again, steel, does, not, melt, at, those, temperatures.
I've worked with Steel since I was a young Teenager, in my old home in Kansas when I was 16 years old I went to work everyday with my Father at his Steel Mill he owned and operated, this Factory consisted of Molten Vats of the hottest substance you could imagine, why didn't any of the Vats that were MADE OUT OF STEEL Melt? I mean, if just a little bit of Jet Fuel burning can melt Steel Rivets 5 Inches thick within an hour, then why don't these Vats that have Molten Substances melt through? (With temperatures 3x more extreme than that of Jet Fuel burning) And these Vats don't just hold these liquids for Hours, or 13-15 Minutes, no, these Vats hold this Lava like substance for MONTHS, or until they need to be changed out after becoming unstable. You underestimate the power of Steel, I'm not a "Conspiracy Theorist" but it's hard for me to just sit around and let these silly assumptions about how Steel would melt from Jet Fuel burning, when I've worked with Steel and Substances much hotter than Jet Fuel burning, my whole life.
The current Steel Mill I work at has 5 Vats (Couldruns if you will) Each vat consists of 4.2" Thick Steel, and is about 6 Ft x 6 Ft. We use these vats when we need to instantly super-heat Steel Rivets to increase the integrity of the beams. (After they cool down from the super heating we chemically spray them with an enzyme that increases the integrity even further) Well, these Vats, these 6 Foot in Radius Vats that contain you could say Molten Lava which is much hotter than any Jet Fuel burning at it's peak temperature, yet, there has never been ONE case of not even a pinhole of the Steel Vat melting. And these Vats hold these liquids for MONTHS as I said before.
Steel just doesn't melt at the Temperature in which Jet Fuel burns. Now, as I said I'm not a Conspiracy Theorist, but I am smart enough to make out obvious occurances for what they are, and neither of those Towers should have collapsed just from a Plane crashing into them, NO MATTER HOW BIG THE PLANE IS. I realized what really happened that Tragic Day many many years ago, and since then I've had enough discussions, debates, arguments, I've watched enough Documentaries, news reports, videos, factoid videos, and I've also taken into consideration every side of this story from thousands of different people to make out what really happened. I've been to New York protests, I've been to over 15 to be exact, and within these protests I've discussed 9/11 with people who believe it was a Government action, people who believe the Government at least had prior-knowledge, people who believe it was strictly a terrorist attack, people who believe the planes are what solely made them collapse, pretty much I've argued and discussed with every side of the story there is. In person. At live protests.
I have one last question, how do you explain all of the calls and notifications to high-up congressman, news reporters, republicans, democrats, pretty much anyone that has anything to do with Politics, how do you explain all of the prior knowledge of an attack? How do you explain over 20 people called and told not to be around either of the Towers on 9/11? How do you explain 10+ Text Messages stating that there is going to be something happening on 9/11 and they need to leave the city? There were so many people that were notified and warned to get out of New York, BEFORE THE TOWERS EVEN GOT STRUCK. Bomb sniffing dogs were called off the scene 4 days before 9/11, and at a time where NO air-traffic was allowed IN or out of New York, Bush tells Air Officials to let Osama and his Family fly out?
I think you really need to rethink your stories and put a little more thought and open-mindedness in them, and realize that the true terrorist is our own ex-president, George Walker Bush.
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Oh I'd also like to add that did you know the Same day that the Towers were attacked Bush declared a state of Martial Law in New York? The same, day that this happened New York was locked down, and every New Yorker's rights were literally stripped from them. There were Sound Vans monitoring people's conversations almost every other block, there were surveillance blimps flying above the city with ground-penetrating x-ray equipment that displayed a black and white image inside of peoples home's, every block and I mean literally every block had Military AND Police personal with fully automated deadly-assault rifles armed and loaded. I've read a couple other members that get this point across very nicely, jm2.me, SheenBR and Profound are a few that did a great job of explaining the FEAR Factor in this "Terrorist Attack"
But they left out the Martial Law aspect of the Attack. 9/11 was an event that was used to get people used to the idea of having no rights, Military and Police running the show, having no privacy, and to live in a Police-State. Fear, Terror, these 2 Words are shoved down almost every American's throat. If you scare a Nation you can get them to accept and do pretty much anything. 9/11 was a pre-conditioning I guess you could say, to get people used to the idea of deadly weapons on every corner. These sounds vans and other Military equipment, these are used in OTHER places such as Iraq, Saudi, Pakistan, the whole Middle East, these weapons are used to FIGHT TERRORISM AND ENEMIES, yet they are being used on American Citizens.
A lot of these "Conspiracy Theorists" on this website have brought forth VERY solid and logical points that just get ignored or automatically discredited because it comes from a "Conspiracy Theorist" Oh God, I just love those words, Conspiracy Theorist. Yeah, Bush sure did a good job at all of his Public Speeches and Meetings to address the Theorists as delusional stubborn un-american people. Almost every Public Speech or Address of an Issue he made he included the Words "Conspiracy Theorist" and "Outrageous un-American" I must say George did an excellent job of fabricating it even further by making all Conspiracy Theorists automatically delusional and un-american because they are trying to expose him.
Yet, I find it funny that on a couple occasions once the Zogby Poll was brought up (Over 50% of New Yorker's believe that the Government had pre-knowledge) during a Public Speech with the Press, Bush's attitude changed instantly and he stumbled over his words frequently. Or the fact that his I think 4th or 5th Public Addressing, a Man stood up and informed everyone that Bush has been in Business with the Bin Laden's for years, and Bush got his first Business Monies from Bin Laden to open his Oil Company. OR, that in ANOTHER Public Conference that I was at documenting information, I brought up the subject of the multiple people who were informed of an attack, BEFORE 9/11. What does Bush say? "You're Un-American and that's outrageous, the American People -Stumbles over words- 9/11 Terrorists -Stumbles over words some more-" and he ends it with, "I don't have to explain myself to outrageous conspiracy theorists like yourself" and before I was escorted out of the Hearing House by Uniformed Police, I made sure that everyone in that room knew that WE FUND AND HAVE BEEN FUNDING AND TRAINING AL-QAEDA Since Bush made his first business deal with Osama. Once I said that, Bush had a dumb look on his face and walked away from the stand.
Or that on August 30th during a Peaceful Protest in New York, over 2,000 Protesters were cuffed and taken to a Condemned 70 year old building on the New York Pier, the same building that has been vacant for 70 years and is full of asbestos, harmful chemicals, and God knows what else? Or almost every human that was detained in this building ended up in the Hospital with severe Chemical Burns and Lung Cancer? All of the Security dogs that were stationed at this Concentration Camp also died weeks later due to lung problems, over 2,000 people were detained and imprisoned in this inhumane condemned 70 year old building. The conditions inside of this building were horrible and no human would be able to withstand them for very long, yet over 2,000 people were detained here, handcuffed with Plastic Torture-Cuffs, and who knows what else happened to these innocent people inside of that building.
Not even a week after Bush came into Office US Military Personnel were ordered to back off of Osama and his Family, there were so many red flags put up, even multiple CIA and FBI Agents were fired because they did not like what was going on behind the scenes. Bush actually had quite a little relationship going on with Osama and his family. And I quote from multiple news sources/CIA and FBI Documents, "FBI and military intelligence officials in Washington say they were prevented for political reasons from carrying out full investigations into members of the Bin Laden family in the US before the attacks of September the 11th"
On-top of this, there were many mainstream media reports of Osama being Treated at a US Hospital. During a few week time period from this stay, Osama met with the CIA Section Chief to discuss specific things. Hmm, I wonder what they were discussing, maybe what the official story of the Attack would be?
Oh, and DonTonberry, you find it hard to believe that our precious, perfect Government would never do anything to harm us precious Americans? You've got serious issues and need to wake up. Our Government is just as corrupt and Evil as Hitler was, in-fact, on the Hitler note, back when Hitler became "known" I guess, a few years before he died he fire-bombed his own Reichstag Building. Now what does Hitler have to do with any of this? Plenty. Just for reference, there have been many US Politicians as well as former presidents photographed having Lunch, talking with, or even appearing at Hitler's speeches. Our Country is being plunged into the Darkness and Corruption of our World-Leaders, and fast. It's up to us American Citizens to expose the Government and Bush for what they are, we need to stand up and Fight this Money Hungry Evil Government.
I'd also like to include that hundreds of Skyscrapers and Tall buildings in the past 5 or so Decades have caught fire and stayed ablaze for 
