This is the kind of thing that discredits your cause, "Even worse tbh"
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This is the kind of thing that discredits your cause, "Even worse tbh"
It wasn't on the internet, it was on TV. and actually i've watched a few documentaries, there is a youtube channel, but as stated, i don't trust what i read/see on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by troublemaker1111
And that was directed at me. ps: I didn't watch it once, and it also wasn't the only one i've watched. I've seen both sides of the story. :thumbup1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Subject N4XYZ
Take it from me, I have a degree in history, I've studied history all my life from primary school, through to secondary school, into college, at university and now as a hobby. History teachers do not know shit. They are just normal people who have been trained to teach a curriculum. They are not any wiser than anyone else. And word of mouth is just that, word of mouth. Not credible at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subject N4XYZ
Lol it doesn't matter where I got them from, the content of the Documentaries is what matters and there are plenty of them with content that is worth watching with an open-mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by troublemaker1111
Yes. How do you know it was exactly after the towers felt appart?Quote:
Originally Posted by troublemaker1111
Have you seen any video, that in the exact moment when the dust cleared they went there to cut them? I'm afraid not. OFC they would say its for security reasons. LOL, or you think they'd say: "yeah, we cutted this one so the tower colapse directly to the ground and do not destroy another buildings near them, so yea, it was kind a security measure."
As you dont have any videos, the image of those iron bars plus videos of those dusts caused by all that implosions plus reports of people listening constantly to *BOOMS* (u can saw that on the internet) plus reports of employees telling that the building was closed 1 week before the "terrorist attack", and a lot of pple entering the building with strange things. Its enough to me, isnt it? If I remember well, the reason they used to close the towers were someting related to a bomb, or a security measure I dont remember. You can find those reports of employees and eyewitness on the youtube. But OFC you wouldnt do it. Seeing the truth about your(?) country would be too painfull, wouldnt it? :)
I think that's the problem with a lot of people that don't want to face stuff like this. Also I hate when people instantly disregard something just because it was found on the internet. Seriously? You're that shallow and single-minded that just because it comes from the Internet it should be completely disregarded and irrelevant to everything else?Quote:
Originally Posted by SheenBR
Sorry, but I fucking lol'd.
9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube
I cant understand a single word he said. anyways, to post things like this, you shouldnt even post. we are not kidding here.
LOL, hahahahahahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheenBR
You can't understand a single word he said? You must have some fucking mental defect then. What makes you think I'm kidding about it all? Just because I linked a video which points out flaws in the official story, and thought the commentary was funny... I am making a big joke out of all of this? Lighten up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheenBR
You literally just said you didn't watch any documentaries. What?Quote:
Originally Posted by Subject N4XYZ
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Originally Posted by SheenBR
Let me put it this way. I can show you photographs of metal beams being cut, diagonally, at ground zero in the same way shown in the pictures you are talking about. Can you show me pictures of beams being cut in the same way, in a controlled demolition, with thermite? And of course part of the clean up operation would involve cutting away left over beams, how else would you get rid of them?
And I live in the UK, not the US. It says so right under my user name. And I'm a socialist; I hate the US government as much as anyone. But the 9/11 'truth' movement is deluded.
I cant understand because I'm not native english speaker. I writer better than I listen, so I dont really know what he talked about. I'm assuming - seeing the images - that hes making fun of the "Conspiracy Theories". And no, I dont have any fucking mental defect. Just because I write in english that doesnt mean I can listen everything in english. I live in BR, not in USA(thankfully), thus I'm not used to listen to people talking in english -.-Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie
@troublemaker1111
I'm trying to find a video that shows how you should cut the iron bar, but every keyword I type returns me a video of WTC :lol:
And I didnt understand all of your question, can you reformulate please? And how I am supposed to know what they did to the cutted piece of iron? lol... Thats the point, no one knows. No one knows what *really* happened there. No one knows *why* they closed WTC for 1 week before this event. No one knows *whats* those dusts coming out from windows. If someone did, they could prove or refute this "Conspiracy Theory". But, I dont think USA would like to have this proved, am I right?
Osama is dead? hahahahaha no fucking way.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...-to-sh-004.jpg
I'm not saying this is my proof, but I mean, the guy was hiding from USA for 10 years.. He would never be captured so easy. And then, MISTERIOUSLY his body accidentaly goes to the sea when it was being transported to USA or whichever place. OH GOSSHH, WHY THEY LOOOOOST THE BODYYY??? OH NOES.Quote:
The bloodied image of a man with matted hair and a blank, half-opened eye has been circulating on the internet for the past two years. It was used on the front pages of the Mail, Times, Telegraph, Sun and Mirror websites, though swiftly removed after the fake was exposed on Twitter.
OFC, their aswer is: "We buried the body at the sea to respect his islamic traditions." WHY WOULD I RESPECT THE TRADITIONS OF A MAN WHO *theoretically* DESTROYED WTC?
If I was Obama, I'd to have his body displayed in the main square of NY. Not respect his traditions and bury him in the sea, so anyone will able to see his body. The only guys that can confirm his dead are the soldiers. Oh, they are american, I forgot.
Why USA cant just leave everybody alone? Why they always have to start a war or some conflict? Jesus!
Just watch a documentary called Fahrenheit 9/11. If even after watching it, you still belive in the bullshit the US govt says, I can only feel sorry for you.
First, USA doesn't start every war. Get your facts right. Second, let's just "pretend" for a second that they actually found Osama (I'm not saying I believe they did, I'm saying let's pretend). If they hadn't treated his body with "respect", do you even have the brain capacity to realize just how much worse it would have been for poorly handling his funeral? Muslims, extremists and tolerants, would have rebelled because it would have gone against their religion. Now, I've told you twice to stop trying to turn this into a USA hate thread, but you fail to understand what that means. Prove your "facts" or keep quiet. PS: That US government you oh so hate has already come forward to state that picture is a hoax. IIRC, that was released by TMZ, not the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheenBR
I think you need to watch that film again because it doesn't actually say anything about 9/11 being an inside job.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheenBR
I didnt say it had. It just talks a little about 9/11 and how Bush didnt do shit to investigate it. Why he didnt want to investigate it?
Now, I am not going to post here anymore. I said everything I had to say. If you still belive Osama is dead, Bush is a saint and all that crap, there is nothing I can do.
Yes, I hate US govt. Not the american pple, who is fooled every single day by this shady govt.
Usa didnt start every war... Tell me why the hell they attacked Iraq. The govt itself sayda Saddam didnt had the resources to build mass destruction weapons. And all of a Sudden, he had. In that documentary, it also shows a tetimony of an agent ( I dont remember from where ) who says that Bush, immediately acused Iraq to be responsible for the attacks and ordered its invasion.
Think what you want to think.
Peace.
Oh, and btw, Bush's father used to provide weapons to Saddan Hussein. Weapons that he used to take control of Iraq. Then, Bush goes there, capture Saddan and kill him. WTF?
Just thought I'd share this;
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/f...ntitled-53.jpg
Ironic that when it's folded like that it resembles a Plane eh?
OFC everyone will say: "HAHAHA THIS IS NONSENSE, GTFO".
Stop being skeptical.
Here's an interesting read also;
PREPARING THE WTC FOR DESTRUCTION - Conspiracy Cafe
When this happened 10 years ago I was quite young so I don't think I understood the severity, but now 10 years later I watch the whole video of the Attack and I gotta say I'm quite shaken. I can't imagine what the people on the floors above where the plane hit were going through. I can't even imagine what it was like watching it happen live only a few blocks away.
The Osama Bin Laden images are fake IIRC, these images are not officials. Regardless this, I believe it's mere bullshit too. I also find weird how they did dare to record Saddam's death, but no Osama's.
Uhm. I think this is a joke dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subject N4XYZ
How is it a joke? Lemme guess, because it has to do with a Conspiracy Theory?Quote:
Originally Posted by troublemaker1111
No, because it's just so silly. Things like claiming 'gelatin' is a kind of explosive when he's thinking of 'gelignite', or saying 'spiegel' is a kind of iron when really it just means 'mirror' in German, and saying the use of the word 'balkon' supports the demolition theory because the word appears in Minecraft, and the general idea that these whimsical sketches are the plans for the world's greatest conspiracy ever conducted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subject N4XYZ
That's true, that's true. Idk, may have been a joke may not have been, I just thought it was interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by troublemaker1111
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Also;
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Why am I pointing this out? They fall in their footprints when an experienced demolition team intends to destroy a building from within. It's called an implosion, rather than an explosion to prevent damage to any surrounding structures. This is why people who have any sense do not believe the planes alone caused the complete structural failure of buildings 100+ stories tall
This is the testimony of William Rodriguez who was a maintenance worker at the WTC
William Rodriguez – WTC survivor. An American Building Maintenance employee for twenty years, responsible for inspection and maintenance at the World Trade Center, who held the master key for the stairs. He was the last person to leave the building on September 11 and has been credited with saving many lives. For his efforts, he received the National Hero Award from the Senate of Puerto Rico. Founder, Hispanic Victims Group.
Article 6/24/05: Regarding an explosion in the sub-basement of the World Trade Center North Tower on 9/11, prior to any airplane impact. "When I heard the sound of the explosion, the floor beneath my feet vibrated, the walls started cracking and it everything started shaking," said Rodriguez, who was huddled together with at least 14 other people in the office. ... [Editor's note: At this point, Mr. Rodriguez was in sub-basement B1 of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's impact point at floors 93 to 98.]
"Seconds after the first massive explosion below in the basement still rattled the floor, I hear another explosion from way above," said Rodriguez. "Although I was unaware at the time, this was the airplane hitting the tower, it occurred moments after the first explosion."
But before Rodriguez had time to think, co-worker Felipe David stormed into the basement office with severe burns on his face and arms, screaming for help and yelling "explosion! explosion! explosion!"
David had been in front of a nearby freight elevator on sub-level 1 about 400 feet from the office when fire burst out of the elevator shaft, causing his injuries.
"He was burned terribly," said Rodriguez. "The skin was hanging off his hands and arms. His injuries couldn't have come from the airplane above, but only from a massive explosion below. I don’t care what the government says, what scientists say. I saw a man burned terribly from a fire that was caused from an explosion below.
"I know there were explosives placed below the trade center. I helped a man to safety who is living proof, living proof the government story is a lie and a cover-up. ...
"I disagree 100%with the government story," said Rodriguez. "I met with the 9/11 Commission behind closed doors and they essentially discounted everything I said regarding the use of explosives to bring down the north tower.
"And I contacted NIST previously four times without a response. Finally, this week I asked them before they came up with their conclusion that jet fuel brought down the towers, if they ever considered my statements or the statements of any of the other survivors who heard the explosions. They just stared at me with blank faces and didn't have any answers."
http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html
September 12, 2001
The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday.
Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday, bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed.
"Today was the first day there was not the extra security," Coard said. "We were protecting below. We had the ground covered. We didn't figure they would do it with planes. There is no way anyone could have stopped that."
Security guard Hermina Jones said officials had recently taken steps to secure the towers against aerial attacks by installing bulletproof windows and fireproof doors in the 22nd-floor computer command center...
Security Provided by Company Linked to Bush Family
Security for the World Trade Center on 9/11/01 was provided by Stratesec, a company in which George W. Bush's brother Marvin was a past principal, and which was backed by a Kuwaiti-American investment firm.
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...600424950.jpeg
Looks like it was cut to me.
Yes, because Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan is every war in the history of mankind. :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by SheenBR