Yeah you missed the point of the Oscars entirely, sorry.
Yeah you missed the point of the Oscars entirely, sorry.
The Oscars are awarded to the BEST performance of the year. NO ONE can even stand up to Heath Ledgers performance as The Joker. If it's given to someone else purely because Heath sadly passed away then the Oscars will not have the impact they do anymore, purely because they will be seen as Career boosters and not legitimate awards.
Well i agree with the acting and all that, the only problem is that while it would be justified this time, would it be next time? What if people start to win these things because they are dead and are getting sympathy votes basicly.
When someone dies all the sudden no one has anything bad to say about a person, they rise in popularity and they are considered to be much more then they actually were.
Originally Posted by Gladstone
Pretty much fixed.
Not really. Read what Tonberry said. Oscars aren't supposed to be career boosters. They're awards. Heath Ledger's death doesn't somehow negate the fact that his performance was very much worthy of an Oscar.
Well read what Gohan said. They ARE career boosters.
They are in the same way that a newspaper is a flyswatter. It's not the intended purpose, it just happens to be used that way. It doesn't mean that should become their official use. Newspapers aren't marketed on their fly swatting capabilities, and Oscars shouldn't be awarded according to their career boosting potential. They're awarded according to who deserves them. That's the point. You just doesn't get it.
Awards of Merit, meaning they have to be earned and not given to people who could do with a career boost. If an actor/actress needs an Oscar for a career boost then they do not deserve one in the first place. Serious Hollywood films do not hire names, they hire talent.
Heath Ledger deserves an Academy Award, no questions asked. He was dedicated to his work and only a stupid nonsensicle accident robbed the world of one of it's biggest acting talents. Giving it to someone else to boost his or her profile would degrade the Oscars beyond recognition.
The Oscars have always rewarded the best and only the best.
Ok you used an example which made no sence I'll use one. If you win a world cup with a team and YOU stand out, people get to know you more, and you'll get signed easier. You wil become a world star if you weren't already, just like Heath Ledger. Ledger wasn't a big movie star alla Tom Cruise, Halle Barry, Niclas Cage ect. He could have been after this role and if you won an oscar it would only boost him.
I'm not sayin oscars are career booster but they sure DO boost a career.
Heath Ledger was critically acclaimed as one of the best young talents in the movie business. He's 10x the actor Tom Cruise is. Your analogy made no sense either as if a Team won a World Cup, and someone stood out, then they are excellent players in the first place and no amount of awards is going to change that.
Your arguing a losing battle here, you have no idea what the Academy Awards stand for.
Ok you're right, I'm wrong. Still I don't see the point in giving an oscar to a dead guy.
Ah so well if someone trying to save a nation and hes dead, he doesn't deserve to be called hero? Seriously, if someone dead but left something great on this world, he/she deserves it. Heath last performance as a Joker is outstanding, he beats every other Joker's roles back in the day.
Then lucky for us your not an Academy Award judge.
Good for the world now we set another step.
Ok, so give Ledger an oscar and he can enjoy it in heaven.
Yep, you really don't get it at all.
Then explain em too me.
We already have but you seem to be too stupid to communicate with reasonably. He deserves and award and he should win an award. The fact that he tragically died does not negate that fact.
Tell what wasn't reasonable what I said? I have nothing against giving him an Oscar, I just don't see the point. I DO GET that he played an amazing part in Batman. BUT
That guy died :[
I gotta agree with Gladstone on this one. You guys missed the point here. The award goes to best performance, doesn't matter if your dead or not. It would be nice if he won both, Lifetime and Best performing actor.
The fact remains, whether he's dead or not, that his acting was tip-top in Dark Knight and deserves oscar recognition. I've never seen a Superhero movie with a villian as well played as Joker in TDK. So suck it!
He should get the Oscar for Best Actor and Performance. And he should achieve the Life Time Honor Award, because, his performance in TDK was amazing, just amazing. I myself, am too a die hard Joker fan in and out, and I hope to see that he wins some kind of an award.
Seconded
I believe the award is more for a performance rather than for the actor or actress. Heath Ledger being dead is completely irrelevant to the fact that he gave an awesome performance as The Joker *echo echo*. The only reason the actor takes the award is because the intangible performance can't (if that makes sense).
Dam I wish he was alive though... I really want him to be in another Batman as The Joker, because no one will play him as well. That in itself is enough to say he's worthy of recognition. I wouldn't want anyone else to play The Joker but him.
Giving him the Oscar will do good for his family and friends, as they will see the world recognizes his acting talent, it will also stop someone from getting it even though they didn't put down the best acting performance.
However like i said, while it's not the case in this case, but it could be the case next time, is that the dead will be honored by giving them something they don't deserve.
Say for example 2 actors both did a excellent job, but 1 actor was just slightly better, say that 1 got 51% of the votes and the other 49%, now what would happen if the 49% guy died? Would they still give it to the 51% guy? In a perfect world they would, but in reality i doubt it very much as they would want to honor the other persons performance.
Hmm.. :icon6:
Oscars are given for outstanding performance and not to boost careers. If they're being given for that reason now - they just don't hold that level and stature it used to hold then. :) ....
And I don't think Heath Ledger is getting votes out of sympathy. It's just coz his acting was extra ordinary. I am sure even if he was still alive he'd still be getting the award.
But the whole point here is that - he is being denied the award just coz he is dead and that bloody doesnt make sense.
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