Using vista?

[NoPeace]

I find it pretty sad when a frikin' OS needs a gig of ram to run smoothly, I mean wtf.

Windows XP needs a gig to run smoothly and Vista just needs two. I myself would want 4 gigs for more headroom for multitasking. As why I have 2gb for XP.

lolz... wtf?! so much performance is needed to run games on it? T___T *goes stopping the download for beta2* stupid shit... ;___;"
hmmmm... is dual boot still enabled?

Dual boot is always enabled but it configures your boot.ini to avoid it.

hell no, 4 gigs of ram to run smooth, I mean wtf is that. no more then around 5% of the computer users has more then 2 gigs ram

More like %5 of computers has just 2gb.

4? Where's it say that? My comp needs a major upgrade -.-

It says it needs 512mb minimum and 1gb recomended but in reality you need 2gb for smooth running and 4gb for performance running.

I heard Halo 2 for PC will only run on Vista so I'll probably have to get it.

Yup it's going to be Vista only. Probally since it's going to be built off of DX10 instead of DX9 which DX10 is Vista only.

NoPeace - out

[Robert]

More like %5 of computers has just 2gb.

I think your seriously underestimating how many pcs their are in the world :p

technicaly its probly somewhere in the region of 0.00001% if that 0o

[*Saosin*]

ive had it for a bit but using power iso dont work with it so i think i need to get a disk :)

[Mazo]

Meh im on work experience at pc world this week and one guy i know there copied vista for me and guess what i did.....left it there after doing a healthcheck on some guys laptop who got spyware, then made it 50x worse by trying to get an antispyware and ended up with four forms of spyaxe -_-

[xeLJoYo]

Yup it's going to be Vista only. Probally since it's going to be built off of DX10 instead of DX9 which DX10 is Vista only.

So if dx10 is Vista only, and we can assume that developers will be using dx10, that means that any self-respecting gamer is gonna HAVE to get Vista!

That's just lame. They're simply forcing their product onto the people.

[theRAGE]

So if dx10 is Vista only, and we can assume that developers will be using dx10, that means that any self-respecting gamer is gonna HAVE to get Vista!

That's just lame. They're simply forcing their product onto the people.

Either Microsoft will slim down Vista altogether, make a modded down version for performance users, or there will be groups on the internet slimming it down and releasing it to the public.

Just look at nLite, people can cut tons of crap out of XP - no doubt a utility like that will come out for Vista too.

[maney]

Ignore the system requirements. XP will happily run on a 20mhz processor with 8mb of ram.

According to mates who are testing it its just xp with a new skin.

[*Saosin*]

it looks like they copied aston shell abit with the clock and date date and that

[Jhewt]

Anyone here's a beta tester?

[NoPeace]

I think your seriously underestimating how many pcs their are in the world :p

technicaly its probly somewhere in the region of 0.00001% if that 0o

Lol. I'm more refering to XP machines. Pre XP machines don't count since they wont even be able to touch vista. :tp:

So if dx10 is Vista only, and we can assume that developers will be using dx10, that means that any self-respecting gamer is gonna HAVE to get Vista!

That's just lame. They're simply forcing their product onto the people.

Bingo. That's how MS makes thier money. ;)

Either Microsoft will slim down Vista altogether, make a modded down version for performance users, or there will be groups on the internet slimming it down and releasing it to the public.

Just look at nLite, people can cut tons of crap out of XP - no doubt a utility like that will come out for Vista too.

There is a Vista starter pack that is the most slim you can get. But it's like the XP starter pack. Hard to get anywhere out side of a 3rd world nation.

Ignore the system requirements. XP will happily run on a 20mhz processor with 8mb of ram.

According to mates who are testing it its just xp with a new skin.

Are you dumb? They day you can run XP on a 20mhz processor and 8mb of RAM is the day I die. XP wont install with anything lower then 32 megs of RAM. I've tested this. As far as processor. You'll need at least a P2. A P1 wont run it.

So the lowest you can actually go is a P2 with 32 mb of RAM. And if you do that good luck because it's going to take you forever to do anything on it.

And your friends are dumb or just using the alpha version. The command interface of Vista has had new things added and somethings removed. Sucks because I really love the edit command which is now removed.

it looks like they copied aston shell abit with the clock and date date and that

Yeah... Pretty much they just ripped off OSX. So many similarites between the two now.

Anyone here's a beta tester?

It's open beta now. SO if you feel like it you can download and install it on up to 10 computers.

NoPeace - out

[Robert]

Lol. I'm more refering to XP machines. Pre XP machines don't count since they wont even be able to touch vista. :tp:

Id still say 5% is pretty high

Tho dell are doing an offer on desktops atm for 2gig ram...

In uni i doubt any pc has 2gig ram, thats a few thousand :p

[NoPeace]

Id still say 5% is pretty high

Tho dell are doing an offer on desktops atm for 2gig ram...

In uni i doubt any pc has 2gig ram, thats a few thousand :p

It's about 5-8% to be honest. That's about the size of the enthusist market alone which 2gb is idea. Then you have the workstation market that's about 10% which about a 1/4 of them uses 2gb of more. SO that's about 5-8% of XP users.

Also when you look into XP-64 bit. The majority of them run 1-2gb. Also when you look into the Server 2003. Nearly every computer will run 2gb or more.

NoPeace - out

[Josh]

Ignore the system requirements. XP will happily run on a 20mhz processor with 8mb of ram.

According to mates who are testing it its just xp with a new skin.

Good luck with that, its not xp with a new skin, it has lots of new features..

I'd rather get a full out GUI hack for XP than get bulky Vista with its ghey security features for uber computer dumb asses. I turned off EVERYTHING in Vista and yet it was using ~400MB RAM with the classic Windows 2000 theme. My XP build (stripped some crap out) with FlyAKiteOSX uses about ~178MB when I'm sitting on the desktop (MSN, xfire).

I'm definitely gonna invest in Samsung and Kingston pre Vista final release.

I got so sick of that skin after like 2 hrs :P

And they were trying to expand vista to be more visually exciting.

[JcxZero]

So many people wish computer hardware advances faster. (100+ GHz, terrabytes of RAM etc.)

So many people (Probably over half the same as above) complain about high requirements for new softwares/games that aren't even released yet.

Make up your mind, please. Personally, I am for the high requirements, as long as the quality rises, too.

Just to mention in advance, this is not only about Windows Vista.

[gizzmo]

I find it pretty sad when a frikin' OS needs a gig of ram to run smoothly, I mean wtf.

your looking at it the wrong way. a gig of ram and stand alone graphics card is going to be the standard, the minium in a year or 2. that means we'll start seeing better hardware put into comps built by major suppliers like dell, gateway, etc.

[NoPeace]

your looking at it the wrong way. a gig of ram and stand alone graphics card is going to be the standard, the minium in a year or 2. that means we'll start seeing better hardware put into comps built by major suppliers like dell, gateway, etc.

1gb is the standard for new computers today.

NoPeace - otu

[xeLJoYo]

Still, why should I care if windows looks good or not?
I just wanna be able to do whatever I want, and quickly too!

[Robert]

So many people wish computer hardware advances faster. (100+ GHz, terrabytes of RAM etc.)

Never heard of Moore's law?

I know how fast pcs will upgrade, tho its getting harder to do so i must admit...

[GOD]

Windows > Vista

[Iron Maiden]

If I had a 64 bit proccessor I would...

[ruffkiller]

i have it, i wouldint recomend it.... nothing works for it atleast not properly for 32 bit even those that are out for windows platform no games my mic doesnt work so soundcards are skrewed o and if you have a 64 bit pc dont even think about connecting to the net because vista wont alow you.... theres no network card drivers yet for 64 bit so tough luck....

If I had a 64 bit proccessor I would...

you can do it on 32 bit.... i have 32 bit and vista installed fine...

[Alfons]

Im on vista atm,
I have to admit,
Its cool
But it eats alot of ram,
Vista uses like 600 mb ram here 0_o
Anyways its nice

[Iron Maiden]

you can do it on 32 bit.... i have 32 bit and vista installed fine...

Isn't that the beta though?

[Josh]

Vista will and is 32 bit, since they figured most people have 32bit processors.

[theRAGE]

Yeah... Pretty much they just ripped off OSX. So many similarites between the two now.

Aston is an alternative explorer shell for Windows 9X/ME/NT/2K/XP :X

Apparently quite light-weight... but there are MANY explorer shell alternatives... gonna keep looking around till I actually bother installing one though.