:'(Originally Posted by Hybr!d
Both our homelands are destroying each other but here we are talking to each other as good friends.
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Both our homelands are destroying each other but here we are talking to each other as good friends.
I don\'t care who wins or loses, as long as no innocent people are hurt..Which is impossible....
well, like Papa Roach said in they're song 'blood brothers', "It's in our nature to kill each other". btw, i don't see a reason why shouldn't we speak here as good friends, because i'm sure that non of us, well, at least, most of us are not single-minded. i mean, if arabic terrorists attack my home, i would never start hating all the islamic world for that. i would bear hate for the hizballa and other islamic terror organizations, but not all to moslim people in general.
I feel the same way.
ZOMG! Imagine all the people that already said that and went off to war who are now missing, POW, or KIA... I'll pray tonight
yes, well, i know i must not be the first to say what i've said. still, i really hope things will cool down. all of the lately happenings here in israel, bombings and stuff, really has a negative psycological effect on many people, include some of my friends. hell, some of them can't sleep because of it.
From what i understand....this type of war has been going on between the two for generations.
Me..personaly...blame religion for it. Why? Because differences in religions cuase wars. Look at the crusades....millions upon millions slaughtered in the name of their "god." I dont mean to offend anyone, but i think if there was no religion in the world it would be a much better place.
hmmm... yea, good point you have there, man. and what are you excacly? a satanist? a paganist? no offence, man, but this is a sort of religion too. if you're not of the above, i'm sure you believe in something though - and that's what religion is all about - belief. i personally am not jewish, nor christian, nor moslim, nor anything. i sort of believe that God and Devil exsist, but not sure.
Honestly, people can believe what they want. They can let religion take over their actions. Most people do. Here's the thing, though... War is NEVER right. EVER. Religion shouldn't have a priority over others' lives. That's basically going against what you believe in. Of course, if you're an Animist, it's different, but that's a totally different story.
pls dont go off-topic guys. ;)
roket land near my house 1 day ago (Nazaret)
...Life isn't a joke...everything you do will affect others. And if you think that life is a joke and that all there is to it is death, first of all your mistaken, second of all if this is your opinion what gets you out of bed? The war is going to start and you are going to the army in 2 years, you can't go to the army with that attitude unless you want all your loved ones to scream and cry for you when you die. You're what...16? You were here for 16 years and you don't know the point to life, so spend more time to figure it out...and get something to live for.
War isn't a joke...it is stupid , but if you're gonna make a topic about it at least be serious...because its a matter of life and death for millions of people.
Heavy thoughts...
anyways, I dont blame religion for that...
I dont blame my goverment for that...
I blame... I blame what money+terror organizaiton can make, they show serve for the pubilic as a saint war or something, I say "Bullshit"...
As I see it, Nasralah (which is the head of the organization) couldn't see his way out of it...
they prepaired this "war" 10 years... But I can't see anything he earns from it, maybe, they hoped UN/USA/Anyone-else will mess in the middle and won't let Israel beat the shit out of them...
Well, we got them surprised...
I just hope the rain of bombs will stop over israel and lebanon, which will happend when Nasralah will be dead either jailed or something...
anyways, I hate all terrorists either its US criminals, Russian criminals, europe criminal w/e... I dont really care...
But we all know it will never happend, as long as money rules the world, cruelness with rule with it...
END
P.S.
I have a feeling that the Hizballah missles will reach Tel-Aviv area... which includes my town also...
P.S2.
I have 1 year till the army...
P.S3.
dam those P.S.'s are getting annoying, I think this israeli guy is a real hippie... and does not ahve a seriuos attitude... (the Unleashed Hell, one...) no offense tho...
sorry I blame Israel for bombing Lebanon
I blame Israel for fucking my vacations and almost put my family in danger ( my parents were already there on vacations )
Pity Israel didnt killed a few Americans there , that could open Bush eyes.
It pisses me that Israel can do anything they want with the excuse of " defending themselves" ( Defending is on their own country ) didnt they had patriots missiles and all the US technology even the Missile Anti Shield that the US have ? :P
Now i tell you , the childrens wont forget this and the Hate toward Israel will grow more and more
what makes me laugh is that Israel does think that killing 1 guy will do the change when it will not
Israel killing innocent ppl makes them angry and thats another guy who will be knocking on israel door with a bomb belt.
Planes invading Lebanon = Act of war , in case you dont know.
but what i hate the most is Israel act of doing things ( Terrorism ) , they think they have any excuse to go to another country and bomb things.
It seems they didnt learn any lesson , and i wonder what would happen if the Arab League would jump alltogether on Israel
All i say Eye for an Eye , teeth for a teeth will go back to israel soil
what really pisses me off is Seeing Israel getting away with it
when we got other countries ( N.Korea ) that wanna test some missiles and EVERY country stands up
Main problem is that ISRAEL pays or gives money to the US a lot of it and several JEWs Bank accounts are abroad , hence more money.
I'm just waiting to see Israel now attacking Siria , then Iran , then Egypt lol ( who wants to bet that Israel will attack Siria with the excuse of Siria g iving missiles to Hezbollah ?
Any guy who thinks like Sharon and approve the bombing toward Lebanon should Burn in Hell
Those guys live in the old days.
Bombing the Airport when there were Tourists trying to get away ( excuse - Hezbolla missiles there 9
then they say they want Hezbolla to move to the North of the River , WTF then why they're Attacking the north of Lebanon ( aka on the other side of the border from israel ? )
All i say Anger will last for a long long time , despise all these years Israel still didnt learn that their Home isnt what they want to be , they still occupy land that was only them after the 6 days war and well that we got to blame England , the US and 2 other countries for making that "deal"
and before someone says anything go read some books and see the History of what lands Israel had before the wars and what they had before the Palestinian agreement and what they "have now"
Btw I do love the Wall of Shame they building , Berlin wall felt a long long time ago , but it seems eheh that Bush will do the same on the mexico border
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Yeah, everyone surely does :P
Ow, I think I am lucky for not experiencing war :$
-Forte.
Ehm, Akaruz, I feel sorry for you if you see tthis in that eye sights, and for one of your retorical questions (why am I bothered to answear?...),if all arab league will jump on israel,
all arabs will get extinguished, because Israel is unoffical 51 state of usa...
and also, even if all arabs jump on israel, they dont have the 5th part of technolagy that israel has, and if we put it like this, I wish all those anti israel countries jump on israel... because then, hate against arabs will disappear, you know why? because UN and USA and Israel and lots of other countries will just slaughter them... (this will count as WW3...)
So please, dont make it personal in this forum, lets all stay friends...
I hate when countries conflicts get between friends in this place...
Mods I suggest you to close this thread, its becoming way too personal...
Guys the thing is Hezballah is no terrorist organisation. It has never attacked any country except Israel from protecting its border and people who are in danger. It has never attacked America or any other country yet it is being labelled a terrorist group by America. I have been watching Arab TV lately and all I can say is thank GOD for Hezballah or Lebanon would of been rubble and sand like Palestine and Iraq is. Not only from this war that has started but from all the other Border line disputes over the years. This seems like it isnt going to end and if it isnt then Syria is going to be next on the chopping board then finallay Iran. Middle East is the worlds attention now hopefully UN or something can happen to stop this from happening. As for Akaruz you are completely correct.
Israel are saying they are attacking sites which they Suppose Hezballah are in Yet I dont see them in the Airport with Missiles, I dont see them in normal citys like my home town one which is being bombarded, I dont see them on bridges which peoples use to go travel from one city to another, I dont see them on roads which people use to walk on, I dont see them in normal Flats where Civilians live and as for the Lebanese Army they are a disgrace to there country. The whole country is being bombed by airplanes, missiles and yet they are doing nothing just relying on Hezballah to protect them.
Hopefully all this can be solved beofre more bloodshed in the middle east occurs.
actually, Isreael bombed airport, bridges and roads just to make sure no1 from Hizbalah will get away, they bomb flats houses, and villages, to destruct bunkers and missle hide places...
so as I can see it israel is protecting itself...
and also... yes israel got into lebanon, so yes maybe you think lebanon should declare war, but comon what lebanon will do against israel? send shaids onto us that will get shot as they reach the border.
Well bombed Airports bridges
and now All the NON LEBANON ppl LIKE THOUSANDS ( at least 10,000 indias , 2,000 Americans , I could go on with the list ) needed to get away
Ppl never thought it was so many Tourists or Foreign ppl living on lebanon or even on vacations
Ps - If Lebanon DEFEND the Border , I can also Bet with you that all Arabs will join on it.
What Israel is doing is called Massacre , even if they have an excuse called Hezbollah
Israel is like a Small US , they think they can be "owners" of the world and can do whatever they feel like
Lebanon was a NICE Country to be on vacations , BUT Israel and his hidden agenda had to do shit ( maybe some Radical Jhews wanna do more colonates there.
Hezbollah isnt Civilians , its neither Petrol Bombs . neither Churchs or Monasteries
Also in case you dont know Israel are using Illegal bombs ( like Saddam did with the curds :P )
Lol Arab being extinguished , its like i said , What Israel is doing is like Hittler did , they want to wipe all , their bloody Excuse of PROMISE LAND by GOD ( God my ass )
UN isnt the US and isnt Israel , in case yuo dont know Europe is full of muslins ( Arabs ) and lol if that happens fell free to see riots ( specially in France )
you dont know shit.
also Any war by Israel to any Arab country will have 1 consequence , No oil , prices raising
Ppl right now are having more Hate toward Israel than Lebanese , Hezbollah or Palestinians.
Like someone posted on the debate section , All this fight is driven by Hate , all that Israelly have = hate
ps: if Israel is soo mighty why dont they stopped the 900 rockets since the start of their Bombing on Lebanon Land ?
and for your record - the EU is against what Israel is doing ( maybe except Bush sidekick aka Tony blair ).
BTW is Israel gonna Pay to rebuild after they wipe all Hezbollah ? :P dont think so
To be Honest I hope those politicians Burn in hell or have Brain Damage as Sharon did
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i give it 1 month before usa and britain get heavily involved.
then it will bring our country (england) into terrible disrapute yet again
illegal bombs or bombings? because bombs are legal, its another thing as Mental mentioned (I think it was the blog, yes I do read it, its intresting) its how the news stations serve it to you, your not here you dont see neither feel the tention, when about 1/2 year ago I was afraid to go outside my house because of the fear to get blown up by some shaid, what do you escpect israel to do? we will just sit quite and give away all our tiny lands? no shit! we will fight, and it will be a masacare if needed...
and if you say we are abusing power, then your right, we do! because we won't keep quite!
News Station for me its 1000 Channels , yes i see them all ( and from 8 languages i know i can understand them what they saying )
Giving the shit of US ones ,that claim Hundreds of Bombins a day ( when for instance today were only 11 rockets ) - We all know the US does the Israel Propaganda
2nd i said Illegal BOMBS ( aka Bombs that were supposed to be destroyed or not used
3rd - Israel is supposed to BE on their COuntry and using the OLD borders , not the ones they got thank to the stupid division after the 6 day war , your PROMISE LAND that GOD promised you is a little as it should be , The last good Thing Sharon did was destroying the Colonates and kicking their own countrymen from there.
Look to what you saying and then look into the Mirror, you will find out why ppl hate Israellys
we will just sit quite and give away all our tiny lands? no shit! we will fight, and it will be a masacare if needed...
what tiny lands ? the lands you "conquered" by the 6day war ? Go away
For Example GET THE FUCK OUT OF SIRIA
Your so called Land should be the lines before 1949
lets give you some History
Read it and shut up you guys only did shitFollowing World War II, the British withdrew from their mandate of Palestine, and the UN partitioned the area into Arab and Jewish states, an arrangement rejected by the Arabs. Subsequently, the Israelis defeated the Arabs in a series of wars without ending the deep tensions between the two sides. The territories occupied by Israel since the 1967 war are not included in the Israel country profile, unless otherwise noted. On 25 April 1982, Israel withdrew from the Sinai pursuant to the 1979 Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. Israel and Palestinian officials signed on 13 September 1993 a Declaration of Principles (also known as the "Oslo Accords") guiding an interim period of Palestinian self-rule. Outstanding territorial and other disputes with Jordan were resolved in the 26 October 1994 Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace. In addition, on 25 May 2000, Israel withdrew unilaterally from southern Lebanon, which it had occupied since 1982. In keeping with the framework established at the Madrid Conference in October 1991, bilateral negotiations were conducted between Israel and Palestinian representatives and Syria to achieve a permanent settlement. In April 2003, US President BUSH, working in conjunction with the EU, UN, and Russia - the "Quartet" - took the lead in laying out a roadmap to a final settlement of the conflict by 2005, based on reciprocal steps by the two parties leading to two states, Israel and a democratic Palestine. However, progress toward a permanent status agreement was undermined by Palestinian-Israeli violence between September 2000 and February 2005. An agreement reached at Sharm al-Sheikh in February 2005 significantly reduced the violence. The election in January 2005 of Mahmud ABBAS as the new Palestinian leader following the November 2004 death of Yasir ARAFAT, the formation of a Likud-Labor-United Torah Judaism coalition government in January 2005, and the successful Israeli disengagement from the Gaza Strip (August-September 2005), presented an opportunity for a renewed peace effort. However, internal Israeli political events between October and December 2005 have destabilized the political situation and forced early elections, scheduled for March 2006.
Get the FUCK out of the land that isnt yours - West Bank and Golan Heightsthere are 242 Israeli settlements and civilian land use sites in the West Bank, 42 in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, 0 in the Gaza Strip, and 29 in East Jerusalem (August 2005 est.); Sea of Galilee is an important freshwater source
Resuming all
Israel what is now is due to a mistake the Bristish did like alot of countries did on their "ex colonies"
Disputes
West Bank and Gaza Strip are Israeli-occupied with current status subject to the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement - permanent status to be determined through further negotiation; Israel continues construction of a "seam line" separation barrier along parts of the Green Line and within the West Bank; Israel withdrew its settlers and military from the Gaza Strip and from four settlements in the West Bank in August 2005; Golan Heights is Israeli-occupied (Lebanon claims the Shab'a Farms area of Golan Heights); since 1948, about 350 peacekeepers from the UN Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO) headquartered in Jerusalem monitor ceasefires, supervise armistice agreements, prevent isolated incidents from escalating, and assist other UN personnel in the region
You guys are worse than Iraq (Saddam) or Iran
Main Problem for the Israelly Governemnt was :
They never thought the Hezbollah would get two-thirds of the majority on the government , like they never thought Hammas would won the elections on Palestina , ( All the Attacks from Israel make them grow and that they dont understand.
Want to bet that this "war" is causing more problems in the future toward Israel ?
Want to bet that Hezbollah will get more followers ?
Want to bet that Hammas already have more followers ?
Ohhh if Siria didnt left Lebanon border i would like to see them ( Israel ) attack
oh i almost forgot
Illegal Bombs = hosphorus incendiary bombs and vacuum bombs
and to end again
Israel attacked Because a few guys got kidnapped , not because they got Bombed or attacked 1st ( thats what happens when Israel goes to others ppl land , they get caught )
Israel's attack on Gaza and now Lebanon is completely and utterly out of proportion to the kidnappings that supposedly triggered these attacks. In the end, as usual the people caught in the middle bear the brunt of the destruction. Their homes are destroyed, their farms are destroyed, their infrastructure is destroyed, and the survivors live only to see their families destroyed.
but well what can i say , you already filled with Israelly Propaganda , your Politicians do shit then feed the civilians with shit to make them go to their side ( point of view )
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Well, if you are such a fan of you arabic lands, then, come and take it, I dont give a fuck about this truth that arabs should owe this land, maybe they should, but we came, and took it!
so why dont you instead of trying to get the truth uncovered, join some army and go take the land from us?
Oh, your just a kid who thinks that today world cares about truth...
Life Is Rude, FACE IT DAMNIT!
And making us alike to Hitler, is shit! your trying to say that we just hate arabs and we want to kill them all... simple no?
but shit, we dont care about arabs we want our land, we want it to be peacfull... we want it to be safe, so people want get scared when they go outside!
we want to use public transportation without the though of being blowen-up,
and if your that friggin' smart with your 8 languages, then do something about it!
dont just write pointless posts that won't change a thing, if your that smart, Knock on the goverment tell them ideas, if your that smart then maybe they won't count you as another asshole who does not knows what to do, If your that smart, tell the world what to do, IF YOUR THAT SMART!
YOU FRIGGIN' MADE ME MAD!
And I won't give you any quotes of some heavy minded smart people who know 302 languages, I will tell you my opinion, and the reason is, that I dont even try to change what happening here, because I take it as it is, I accept it, because I know this should be done...
sorry but you dont even deserve to walk on this world , your opinion shows why this war happens , you still think the land its yours when it isnt
You take it as it is , when you shouldnt , since you should not go by someone else ideas
Last time i noticed Lebanon wasnt your LAND neither they attacked you 1st
and kiddie i'm not a kid , i'm old enough to been already in a war and fight , your just an half minded kid who doesnt know shit.
I pity the other israelits ( i wonder if they arent put in jail ) for being against this "war" or against this way of doing things
It does hurt doesnt it , when ppl just give you the truth and you dont wanna accept it , well it happens when a 16 years old kid thinks he knows about something when it doesnt.
and what are u? a dumb ass red-neck?
