whats safer?

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Originally Posted by Netrogor

@ Jessin
It's the second amendment that guarantees one the right to bear arms. Not the first.
As to members of the NRA... virtually none of them take drugs, as their rules & regulations forbid them from taking drugs & being a member.
As to people shooting each other... guess what; if you took away their guns, then they would be stabbing each other. If somebody wants to kill another person... they are going to find a way to do it. It isn't the gun that kills, it is the person pulling the trigger.
To make it known that a large population owning firearms doesn't result in violence... take my home state for example: Michigan. Here in Michigan, we have the largest militia in the world, and a massive number of gun freaks who own weapons of various sorts. With that said, we still have fewer gun crimes than states with stricter gun laws.
Bad statistics taint gun control debate - Opinion

Even so, the US is still pretty dangerous... and I'd rather live elsewhere.

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Completely wrong.

With a gun, you can be over a block away, shoot someone, then run off without being seen.

With a knife, you have to REALLY hate someone to plunge a sharp object into them and get their blood allover you, and all that with you being within arm shot range of them to fight back.

It takes a different type of person to stab someone than it does to just squeeze a trigger. Every 48 hours a child is killed in the US because of a firearm accidentally going off. Still say the gun doesn't kill? Yes, the other child playing next to it really had homicidal thoughts, didn't it?

Also, how many schools in USA have guards who screen and check you as you enter the school? Compared to how many in the UK? If thats not an indication of how safe a country is, i don't know what is.

But still Us is safer. Because people their are strong & also the buildings are so safe!

Is that the best you can come up with? people are strong in the US? :tongue:

It doesn't matter where you live there's always a chance of terrorism in any country of the world, I come from Australia though we have haven't had any major terrorism acts besides one Australian who was in jail for like 7 years for training with the Taliban but never fired a weapon.

In terms of this _debate_ (which its more like a biased judgement) there really can't be an answer as they are both susceptible to terrorist acts and what not, I feel that the UK is _safer_ in terms of people depending on which area you live in, at the moment the presidential election is coming up and that could be a huge gap for terrorists around the world, America is the biggest country invading Iraq and terrorists will focus more on America then the UK due that that.

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Originally Posted by Parker

Is that the best you can come up with? people are strong in the US? :tongue:

It doesn't matter where you live there's always a chance of terrorism in any country of the world, I come from Australia though we have haven't had any major terrorism acts besides one Australian who was in jail for like 7 years for training with the Taliban but never fired a weapon.

In terms of this _debate_ (which its more like a biased judgement) there really can't be an answer as they are both susceptible to terrorist acts and what not, I feel that the UK is _safer_ in terms of people depending on which area you live in, at the moment the presidential election is coming up and that could be a huge gap for terrorists around the world, America is the biggest country invading Iraq and terrorists will focus more on America then the UK due that that.

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Actually US is the main state of all americans. And also . It has the best hoods & people terrorist would just die there! Conquering !

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Originally Posted by Rishwin

Completely wrong.

With a gun, you can be over a block away, shoot someone, then run off without being seen.

With a knife, you have to REALLY hate someone to plunge a sharp object into them and get their blood allover you, and all that with you being within arm shot range of them to fight back.

It takes a different type of person to stab someone than it does to just squeeze a trigger. Every 48 hours a child is killed in the US because of a firearm accidentally going off. Still say the gun doesn't kill? Yes, the other child playing next to it really had homicidal thoughts, didn't it?

Also, how many schools in USA have guards who screen and check you as you enter the school? Compared to how many in the UK? If thats not an indication of how safe a country is, i don't know what is.

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Or you use a crossbow, or Composite Longbow. Those aren't too hard to handle effectively. Or you poison them. Or you run them over. As I said, if somebody wants to kill another person... they are going to do it.

What relevance does an accident have on safety in a country...? Unless, of course, you are talking about natural disasters. An accident is just that; something that happened by chance, and can happen absolutely anywhere, and to anyone.

And for the guards for schools...
A ten second google search revealed over six schools in the UK with guards screening and patrolling.
A five minute google search revealed one school in relation to corrupt police guards beating a little black girl, who are white (so, racists, more or less), and also calling her a nappy-head (racial slur). Everything else in relation to guards, or security personnel, for some strange reason, directs me to basketball related events...

Those are the things we want to look for, when deciding which country is most dangerous or most safe. Do you fit the ethnicity or political mind track best associated with your country (assuming it lacks a bill of rights; if it has one, then don't bother reading this last question)?

I'm too tired reading all your message T_T. Still Us is the safiest!

And I'm too tired to make another one.
Although I know America isn't the most dangerous, I also know it isn't the best. US citizens are used to locking their doors with deadbolts... Canadians are used to leaving them unlocked, no matter the occasion. The only way to put yourself into danger, whilst in Canada, is by playing hockey... who knows? You might slip up and lose a finger to the skates. ^^

Nah. I vote for US! Still!

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Originally Posted by Jazeon

I'm too tired reading all your message T_T. Still Us is the safiest!

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"Us is the safiest"

Your spelling and grammar are both a disgrace to a serious debate, however I suppose that isn't a problem considering this can't even be considered a serious debate.

Even though i live in teh us, I vote for UK they have no guns and terrorists seem to like George Bush?

How can you say that UK is free of terrorist after the terrorists made clear that they were trying to blow up the London train station(s) I think they call them the London tube (sorry having a total mental blank at the moment)

To be honest guys, it ain't safe ANYWHERE. Just about ANYWHERE, you can get stabbed, beaten, robbed, and even shot. It doesn't matter, UK, USA, Israel, Europe... every country got it's share of place where it's dangerous, no matter where you live. Hell, my own friends nearly got robbed a few days ago, and last year, me and my friends nearly got all stabbed after a gig at which we performed, and that was at the safest place you can think of. And that's why I didn't vote for neither the UK nor the USA.

Id say UK btw, its not guns, its nice and its not so ncie seeing a sliced up person being sliced to death for no reason watsoever..
But usa have gun shops, like anyone can get a gun, pathetic, and the gangs..

There are many things for this.
i live 10 mins away from a wood where terrorists were hiding suitcases full of bombing equipment.
but then again, what i got from that title, it isnt just terrorism, its everything else.
guns are illegal here, but over there, drive bys ect ect.

i live in a particually bad place so yeah.....

but thats no excuse. England is getting as bad as USA and thats quite bad, as were a smaller country!

Well USA has to many people with guns for my liking...however soon Uk will have too many terrorists on each street corner :)

America just has tons of gangs depends
city = gangs
country = Crazy ass hill billys

lmao yeah. cor where ever yo go in USA you just meet crazed up people!

Well the fact that houses in the US are mostly not made of brick (besides metal?) would make me feel uncomfortable even in a non tornado zone =P I think we've only had like a barn and some old pub damaged by tornadoes over the last decade.

Neither is "safe", but I guess the UK has better laws on keep Britains safe.

The amount of killings in New York is about the same in a London alleyway.

So, UK is my anwser.

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Originally Posted by Underpants

Neither is "safe", but I guess the UK has better laws on keep Britains safe.

The amount of killings in New York is about the same in a London alleyway.

So, UK is my anwser.

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But new york has alot of gangs does London have gangs?

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Originally Posted by Netrogor

Or you use a crossbow, or Composite Longbow. Those aren't too hard to handle effectively. Or you poison them. Or you run them over. As I said, if somebody wants to kill another person... they are going to do it.

What relevance does an accident have on safety in a country...? Unless, of course, you are talking about natural disasters. An accident is just that; something that happened by chance, and can happen absolutely anywhere, and to anyone.

And for the guards for schools...
A ten second google search revealed over six schools in the UK with guards screening and patrolling.
A five minute google search revealed one school in relation to corrupt police guards beating a little black girl, who are white (so, racists, more or less), and also calling her a nappy-head (racial slur). Everything else in relation to guards, or security personnel, for some strange reason, directs me to basketball related events...

Those are the things we want to look for, when deciding which country is most dangerous or most safe. Do you fit the ethnicity or political mind track best associated with your country (assuming it lacks a bill of rights; if it has one, then don't bother reading this last question)?

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lets see let me start of by asking u what reasons do u think owning a gun for is right?

next a u need to visit schools where i live every school in state got metal dectator , scanners.

and w.e the NRA what was it going to colambin after a week after the shooting to show how owning gun's is good nice move on them don u think?


and what was that the white kids hanging nuces in school and jus cause the black kid got into a fight with him in School which should deal with suspention or expllesison in school he was send to jail wtf is up with that?

sorry my spelling is horrible and also i don want u to get or want this getting out of hand jus want a normal debate

USA 5.9 vs 2.03 UK - Homicide rate per 100,000 (wiki)

Almost three times more likely to be murdered in the US... =/

Crash

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Originally Posted by jokerdude

But new york has alot of gangs does London have gangs?

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lol had to quote this >.> ur saying it gang's so really safe?

@ People who say UK doesnt have guns

Police DO have guns although they only use them in dangerous situations

You can also buy guns ilegally or legally with a license

Unfortunately, I believe that there are more dangerous things in the US than just guns.
The IRS, CIA, FBI, the Patriot Act, George Bush, Corporations... just to name a few of them...

I'll elaborate on any of the above if you're interested in them...