Whats the truth on advertisment in Sigs?

[Kane Hart]

The other day One mods Name Gibs whos new to these forums for some reason L2 forums mod. Tell me DDLHub.com - Host Your Files For Free is considered advertisement and theres no links allowed in ur sig.. After spending 30secs looking at almost everyones sig with L2 server advertisement in there sigs I could not understand what I was doing wrong.

I stated ddlhub.com for people who wanted share files who did not want wait in lineups and who did not want there files deleted every 5 min and such. It was clan bandwidth with greats speeds. Targeted for people like Ragezone and such for file sharing.

As Gibs is explaining anyone even posting a link to rapidshare or shared files folder is really against the rules.

My site has 0 advertisement and Gib has this in his sig:
BiteFight Server 1 -
and also
4shared - free file sharing and storage - share folder - My 4shared

When I was mod for L2 I never did a bad job but I always disappeared and I made people follow the rules but ain't there a line when you gotta stop and not be an asshole?

Tell me what you think am I really in the wrong do mods get advertise there crap? Was it wrong of my trying help and provide resources in this community?

Sorry for my bad English :(

[MentaL]

[Josh]

Personally advertising sites such as your server, your website etc is bad. Links to download sites like ddlhub, rapidshare, etc was fine, most people understand.

[Robert]

Forum advitising is banned

Normal sites i believe is ok

Thats the impression i have gained from the time ive been a mod. I presume hes just trying to steal users to use his site instead of yours, which tbfh is abusing his power. And hell if it is against rules hes breaking it anyway.

[Kane Hart]

Forum advitising is banned

Normal sites i believe is ok

Thats the impression i have gained from the time ive been a mod. I presume hes just trying to steal users to use his site instead of yours, which tbfh is abusing his power. And hell if it is against rules hes breaking it anyway.

Then I really was not doing anything wrong. Was not really advertisement I mean its fiel sharing site I want people to know put it my sig. I wanted only people like from RZ to use it. I don't want all over the net type thing. Was put up for people be able share easier theres no credits to me or anything just like putting rapidshare url in my sig.

[CrashOveride]

First thing I thought... "Who?" so many random mods nowadays.

It's only against the rules to advertise forums and them games things like he has so just tell him where to go.

Crash

[Kane Hart]

First thing I thought... "Who?" so many random mods nowadays.

It's only against the rules to advertise forums and them games things like he has so just tell him where to go.

Crash

I did tell him where to go till he started to edit my sig for me lol he went on l2jfree irc saying stuff like ur screwed ur getting banned and crap like that.. This little punks been here few months.. I think someones gotta reconsider there mods or at lest one lol.

[Kaoii]

I did tell him where to go till he started to edit my sig for me lol he went on l2jfree irc saying stuff like ur screwed ur getting banned and crap like that.. This little punks been here few months.. I think someones gotta reconsider there mods or at lest one lol.

Mh, you don't have a lot of room to talk.

[Kane Hart]

Mh, you don't have a lot of room to talk.

Hey i been dos threat free for a while :P

[Negata]

The rules state you must not advertise other forums on RZ, including sigs. The rest as far as I have understood is, unfortunately, up to mod's interpretation. Most(?) people would say it's forbidden to have links in your sig at all - however I'm a huge exception to this. Personally I allow nearly any kind of link, in post or sig, as long as it's presented with good taste, the site doesn't have anything illegal/something I despise (such as cheating), and the user has fair enough reputation to be allowed privileges. Goes case-by-case, but as recently discussed in more private areas, I just don't see the point with disallowing something without a good reason if letting it stay doesn't hurt anyone. If you go by this, however, don't come and cry to me if some other nazi mod gives you an infraction...

[Omer]

nazi mods lol xD

[Konrow]

I advertise in my sig and its a forum but its really just a part of RZ no one checks much but they should.

the rules are fairly clear on advertising i think. just don't link to other forums or sites with warez/porn i guess.

[FragFrog]

Have some patience with Gibs, he's still learning and he is being a bit overreactive. We have had a lengthy chat about this and I am certain he will be a bit more easygoing on people with links in their signature.

Do note that according strictly to the rules he was right to infract you - advertising is banned, and you were clearly advertising a personal site. Now as Negata said, this is usually evaluated on a case by case basis and I have to agree that your site is indeed only usefull and therefor needn't be deleted, but strictly speaking its still an advertisement, hence the confusion.

Now, do you really think that crying about it in the outerworld is going to solve anything? Or that putting in your sig your opinion on Gibs is going to come over friendly? I'll have you know that I was very much inclined to add another infraction for doing that - you do NOT kick the new guy in my rulebook.

[Kane Hart]

my 3 years here and I got a Infraction :( I'm off to cut my pain away!

[sickside]

well i hate to say it man but just cause youve been here 3 years and hes been here for a month or so doesnt mean your right and like FF said crying in outworld wasnt the way to go you should know( since you are a ex mod and been here for 3 years) that if you have a problem with a mod then the best thing to do is take it up with a super mod then if the problem dont get solved take it to mental (but our supers are well super so the problem should be fixed when you ask them)

now dont take this as a flame or any thing offensive towards you im only stating my opinion but i agree gibs was wrong to jump the gun and infract you but like FF said hes new and in the learning stage and we all make mistakes even i made mistakes my first few weeks as mod and had to have negata to clean up behind me :/

[kartong]

I don't really see why you mods is complaining about him "crying".
Isn't it right to bring up questions and difficulties in the light instead of just shutting up and let things remain uncertain?

[SantaClaus1]

he went on l2jfree irc saying stuff like ur screwed ur getting banned and crap like that.lol.

he should NOT ! be a mod
clearly he is a frustrated pathetic power hungry noob

definitly not mod material

[sickside]

well kartong i think the thing we was trying to say was he should of pmed a super instead of posting in outworld

[MentaL]

someone deleted my post lol :P

[kartong]

well kartong i think the thing we was trying to say was he should of pmed a super instead of posting in outworld

Sounds more reasonable, to bad I didn't read it like that =/

[iNs@nE]

someone deleted my post lol :P

LOL..

Talking about advertisements in signatures - well I was infracted once for the same reason during my starting stages on RaGEZONE. I atleast didnt make an issue out of it like this..

And one should not either. You come here on to these forums which are based on a set of rules. And if you intend to post here, you need to abide by those and follow them...

And if you dont wish to do that.. then the Mod has every right penalize you. You really cant complain about that.

[Kane Hart]

MentaL has no love for me ;) Reason I posted it was cuz no one would hear me in a corner. I mean the kid goes onto irc channel bragging how he gave me an infraction lol... I must admit I never ever even got close ever to giving anyone an infraction. I mean I had a person here and there have a problem but always managed to talk it out.

Back in my days advertising servers was cool I know we can't now but I had l2server.com or something in my title name. One time there we were unable to edit or change this well he also said thats why got the infraction even though I explained it to him..

Don't I have a right to a appeal :P also maybe someone who knows there English.

[cameronmd]

Alot of devs can be bias at time. The old mods are good people (I think) but some of the new random mods that are just poping up every where are starting to get bad. Some people will edit other's posts and put it as something really bad just because they didn't like what you said, instead they should just delete it. Thats just an example. But puting links in sig should be ok as long as its not another forum or virus/gay/porn stuff haha.... I had a spider-man link for like 1-2 weeks and no one deleted it or said anything.

[Robert]

Do note that according strictly to the rules he was right to infract you - advertising is banned, and you were clearly advertising a personal site. Now as Negata said, this is usually evaluated on a case by case basis and I have to agree that your site is indeed only usefull and therefor needn't be deleted, but strictly speaking its still an advertisement, hence the confusion.

# Advertising other forums is not permitted. This includes your signature or graphics.
#The only servers you are permitted to advertise in your signature are the official ragezone servers. You may only advertise your own private servers in the correct forum sections. You will however be permitted to link to your threads that are on ragezone.
#Do not post links to text based games without clear details, this includes links in signatures.

Their the only rules which refer to signatures.

# Use common sense! If you think something may not be allowed, it probably is not. As such you maybe warned for something that is not specifically mentioned in these rules.

Guess you could use that one, but tbh loads of other people has links in there signatures.

What he did is not against the rules at all. I say remove his infraction tbh, its only fair.

[FragFrog]

#The only servers you are permitted to advertise in your signature are the official ragezone servers

Read this again Robert. He was advertising an uploadserver. His uploadserver. Its not a official RZ upload server. Strictly according to the rules its illegal. And yes, other people have links in their sigs, so? If your friend kills someone it doesn't mean you may kill as well. Start acting like a mod or I'll start treating you like a user.

Also, opening a topic about it in the outerworld is something that removed any doubt I had about removing his infraction. If you have a problem with a mod, PM a super, don't go anoy people in the outerworld.

[Kane Hart]

#The only servers you are permitted to advertise in your signature are the official ragezone servers

Read this again Robert. He was advertising an uploadserver. His uploadserver. Its not a official RZ upload server. Strictly according to the rules its illegal. And yes, other people have links in their sigs, so? If your friend kills someone it doesn't mean you may kill as well. Start acting like a mod or I'll start treating you like a user.

Also, opening a topic about it in the outerworld is something that removed any doubt I had about removing his infraction. If you have a problem with a mod, PM a super, don't go anoy people in the outerworld.

The rule again common sense is needed not website servers.. Cuz tech posting link to msn.com is a link to a msn.com server cuz well not run on ragezone. The rules means private gaming servers like l2 and mu.

Mu link to a website witch provide free space for files. Again no advertisement not even my name. Just purely something help out community and help prevent them hour long waits on rapidshare. I got few boxs got some extra bandwidth might aswell use it :)