Would you let this woman die? Would you like to live like that?

Of course I'd let her die. No second thoughts or anything. She is suffering terribly, and she just wants it to end. There's no hope left for her. Death would be a pleasant escape. Keeping her alive is simply cruel.

Konrow thats kinda harsh

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Originally Posted by InZan3

Btw so somebody mentioned religion.
Well what would happend to the doctor who puts her to sleep? Will he go to hell for murder?

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I think, well I'm not a 110% muslim, but I think it was like, you have a time when YOU die period, but I mean come on, how can you let someone suffer like that, if she grants you to let her go in peace. There is no problem 'cause in the end when he asks you that question, how can you not say '' Didn't you see how she was living''. In the end everything is a test, well so they say.

Fuck the government.
The screw everything up.
If she wants to do it, she can. I would.
Hell, I would take the gun to my head and psssh.. dead

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Originally Posted by Rishwin

For those asking "why doesn't she do it herself?", ever think that it may be a religious reason? Cos as far as i know, in most religions, any sort of suicide is an instant ticket to hell.

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Damn straight. I believe in god, and I bet He would know how she was suffering, and let her kill herself, so that way she can live in the glorious afterlife.

Sos for the double post, couldnt help myself.

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Originally Posted by TheAJ

Konrow thats kinda harsh

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Fuck yes it is. The woman wants to die. Do you not understand that if she stays alive, she'll simply be horribly suffering each and every day? Why would you not let her finally find peace? Whether or not you believe in a life afterwards, would you be cruel enough to force a person into suffering for the rest of their lives. We let mere animals "go to sleep" if they are too old or too sick to continue living happily. Are you saying we shouldn't allow humans this promise of peace? Especially if she wants it. It is despicable in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by TheAJ

Konrow thats kinda harsh

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I do not see how that is harsh.

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Originally Posted by TheAJ

Konrow thats kinda harsh

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So if you were that woman you wouldnt want to end your life ASAP?

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Originally Posted by ProjectGrey

God Sakes, I Mean Really The Goverment Needs To Grow Up & Let This Women Out Of Her Misery.. Jesus The Pain She Endures Is Horrible.
It Is Her Choice Its Not In The Way Of The Goverment To Decide If She Lives Or Dies They Do Not "Own Her".

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Suicide Should Be Mandatory For People Who Type Like This... I Can't Think Of Many More Annoying Ways To Type Than This 'American Headline' Style, eXcEpT MaYbE SoMeThInG LiKe ThIs 0r 3VeN tH1$ c0uLd b3 w0rS3 i gUe$s.

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Originally Posted by Nuklear

Why doesn't she commit suicide by getting hit by a car or a train?

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OMFG that has got to be the absolute shittiest way to kill yourself, how fucking selfish do you have to be to possibly mess up someone else's life/head on the way out - my little sister didn't drive for a couple of months after accidentally hitting a dog because it traumatised her... if it had been a person, well.. no-one has the right to lay their death at someone else's feet like that. Anyone who would do such a thing deserves to suffer instead.

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Originally Posted by Rishwin

What the fuck, how can you say no to an assisted suicide of someone like her who is obviously going through hell every agonizing second of every day?

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There would certainly be some doctors who would (quietly) have assisted her in this... but not now after she's attracted media. She's kinda screwed her chances a bit that way lol

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Originally Posted by Rishwin

If the asshole government for some reason declines her plea, if i were her family, i would either allow her to do it herself or take her to one of the other countries where it is legal.

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Originally Posted by AJ

If they french won't let her. She should go into another country, and have them do it.

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As far as I know you have to get clearance to fly if you're sick, probably something to do with the airline being covered if you die in-transit. If there was such a requirement then she'd probably have trouble getting cleared to fly. :huh:

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Originally Posted by InZan3

Btw so somebody mentioned religion.
Well what would happend to the doctor who puts her to sleep? Will he go to hell for murder?

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No, the good doctor shall be exalted by The Noodly One for carrying out a necessary yet stressful deed, and in a paradise of al dente shall reside at the terminus of His 154th appendage for all eternity plus one. Details here. :tongue2:

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Originally Posted by Rishwin

So if you were a doctor you would have no problems cutting someone open or drilling into their head, but putting someone out of a pain that is crippling them would be too much for you?
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She wants to die, so they would be helping another human being end their suffering, WHICH IS WHAT BEING A DOCTOR IS ALL ABOUT.

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While your position is understandable, you should realise that most doctors follow (or try to follow) the essence of the Hippocratic oath, which includes the passage:

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Originally Posted by The Hippocratic Oath (Modern Version r.1964)

"Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God."

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It should also be noted that while treatment - whether experimental or proven - or just doing nothing and seeing if the body will fight for itself, are possible alternatives in most such cases, and the biggest difference between these and assisted suicide(*) is that death is very, VERY final. There's no undoing it or recovering from it.

(*)I don't like calling it 'euthenasia', lets keep it clear what is happening here, we're helping someone kill themselves, obscure language does not help the situation for either side

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Originally Posted by Konrow

Fuck yes it is [harsh]. The woman wants to die. Do you not understand that if she stays alive, she'll simply be horribly suffering each and every day? Why would you not let her finally find peace? Whether or not you believe in a life afterwards, would you be cruel enough to force a person into suffering for the rest of their lives. We let mere animals "go to sleep" if they are too old or too sick to continue living happily. Are you saying we shouldn't allow humans this promise of peace? Especially if she wants it.

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It's just like in the movies when your mate is being dragged away by a horde of flesh-eating zombies and there's no hope of escape and you have only one bullet left and no other weapons (so can't rescue him) - you know he's a lost cause and you can't do anything else to help so you shorten the potentially very terrible and painful ordeal by sniping him in the head. :wink:

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Originally Posted by Gladstone

I'm yet to hear one convincing argument against euthanasia.

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Originally Posted by Robert

If she is mentally stable I don't see any reason not to let her. I think euthanasia should only be prevented when the person cannot think straight.

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The main problem here is twofold. Firstly, who decides who is 'of sound mind'? Psychiatry is one of the only areas of medicine where an ideal state is never given, it is a science defined by ailments only, without common reference to 'you are healthy if you are like this'... as a result it is not really a science designed to determine that 'yes, this person is sane', but rather 'well, I can't determine an exact match for this flavour of insanity, maybe they're sane'... :P I've simplified too much but you get the drift.

The second part of the problem is the 'slippery slope' principle. It has been shown that, in countries where assisted suicide is decriminalised, at least SOME doctors/families/etc will use this to get rid of people who are more trouble alive than they would be dead, for example to ease their OWN suffering, embarrassment, stress, etc that they feel by having their relative heavily disabled without chance for recovery, or in the case of doctors some have been accused of hastening patients' deaths to get access to donor organs or to free up beds. I'm not saying it shouldn't be allowed, but rather that IF allowed, this should have VERY CLEAR and VERY STRICT guidelines on how to go about it, and what situations/qualifications warrant it.

P.S: Jeebuz I type too much. :shock:

I'd let her do it of course.. but honestly since when is suicide a matter of legality?.. not like they're gonna arrest a corpse. (in b4 failed attempt)

also, LOL @ American Headline Style.

No reason to deny a request like that, if someone wants out they'll find a way.

Ouch....She should if that's her wish ..

,,|,, to anyone who thinks elsewise. :sad:

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Originally Posted by iNs@nE

Ouch....She should if that's her wish ..

,,|,, to anyone who thinks elsewise. :sad:

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The primary issue is not if SHE is allowed to kill herself (after all, if she succeeds she won't care if you try to prosecute her), the issue is instead should other people be allowed to HELP her die. Which leads to abuse of this power, as I detailed in the last part of my big-ass post above. :yes:

omg that looks like hell i wouldnt want to live like that....

I say if your mentally stable you should have the right to say kill me or dont. She suffers horrible pain that lasts up to 4 hours at a time.Its sad. (It would be easier to stab yourself or somethign though.