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    Re: Nova 3205 server file + client

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaraki Kenpachi View Post
    Why not make 3 accounts and login to all 3 of them? Would that be possible? I've done this with other games
    Yeah, that's what I'm doing right now, just thought it would be kinda neat to circumvent the requirement altogether. To me, it's fun to understand and modify how the server works! ^-^

    Note though, the PrimeBD client that was linked here doesn't allow multiple instances per default. The EvolutionBDO client does, however. EvoBDO is not 100% compatible with the server I think, though, so don't use it for actual gameplay (it permanently throws "quest data could not be loaded" errors at me). I haven't thoroughly tested it, though, and the evo client I got is old and modified, so it might just be on my end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaraki Kenpachi View Post
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    Why not run the VM files, I think it fakes the ram to virtual ram of 128gb. They did this for tera, and I was able to play tera and run the server fairly fine on a i9 32gb ram pc.
    Sadly the only copies of the VM I found are corrupted. I have no problem adding some virtual memory to my own VM, but I really would like the physical memory available to it to be 64GB. Can't do that now because my system's physical memory is 64GB. 64 GB for the VM would stress the swap file much less and would not thrash so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by DjFerry View Post
    Because ssds have a limit on Write/read they are not mean to be used as a volatile storage like rams. So if you dont want to have a death ssd in months, better don't do it.
    When you run Windows the system will set up the virtual memory. If system managed, the swap file ends up on the same drive you are running Windows from but you can self-manage it to a better suited drive. If you boot off an SSD (I do) the swapper will stress that SSD regardless. The VM's memory is still part of your system memory and will stress your system's swapper. Sure, there are ways to move the VM's swapper to one of the host drives, but that slows down due to the networking plumbing used to implement it. Even localhost networking will incur overhead.

    The best way to deal with this is to expand your system's memory as far as your architecture & finances will allow. For myself I am finance-limited to 128GB. Do I will allocate 64GB to the VM (my system is multipurpose and used for development and other fun stuff).
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    Re: Nova 3205 server file + client

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaraki Kenpachi View Post
    Anyone have the client dl on mega? Or another good host. I've been eyeing the google drive dl link to reset for a few hours now and nothing. I also used the shortcut into a folder trick but it auto cancelled like half way. I'm afraid I won't be able to get the client for a few days lol



    Why not make 3 accounts and login to all 3 of them? Would that be possible? I've done this with other games.




    Why not run the VM files, I think it fakes the ram to virtual ram of 128gb. They did this for tera, and I was able to play tera and run the server fairly fine on a i9 32gb ram pc.
    You can run it with virtual memory,however you should also get the fact it used about 250 gb total,so if you run it with 32 gb phisical you need to set about 220+ pagefile. This is huge. Because of this size you can't normally run it on hdd,since its just gonna drop and drop most of the time,because there is no way to get to such read/write speed. Beside you can't even normally run it on ssd,at least not best to run both vm and pagefile on the same drive. So for at least you need to have 2 separate phisical drives - one for vm and one for pagefile. And even with this its gonna give shatters from time to time. Bare minimum for play without shatters as i see about 128-130 gb of phisical memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomanable View Post
    You can run it with virtual memory,however you should also get the fact it used about 250 gb total,so if you run it with 32 gb phisical you need to set about 220+ pagefile. This is huge. Because of this size you can't normally run it on hdd,since its just gonna drop and drop most of the time,because there is no way to get to such read/write speed. Beside you can't even normally run it on ssd,at least not best to run both vm and pagefile on the same drive. So for at least you need to have 2 separate phisical drives - one for vm and one for pagefile. And even with this its gonna give shatters from time to time. Bare minimum for play without shatters as i see about 128-130 gb of phisical memory.
    Hmm. Perhaps it would be worth my while to push my memory up to 256GB (it is on my Threadripper 3970x development system). That would let me push the VM to 128GB and leave elbow room for my dev tools and client. The painful part is that brings my memory cost to $1300 cad (ouchie!) and the fact I have to find a new home for the existing 64GB.

    Worst comes to worst I could always sell some off if it ends up being unfeasible ;)

    Main reason for this is I want to start building an emulator that works a lot better than those Java-based ones out there.

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    Re: Nova 3205 server file + client

    Boss refresh time. Does anyone know where it is modified?

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    Is there any way to put three different servers and the database on different machines?
    I only know that DataSheet_server.xlsm can set IPs of different servers, but I can't find any settings about the database.

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    Re: Nova 3205 server file + client

    Quote Originally Posted by 1722145042 View Post
    Is there any way to put three different servers and the database on different machines?
    I only know that DataSheet_server.xlsm can set IPs of different servers, but I can't find any settings about the database.
    Hmm,it should be in odbc.
    Its in GameServerData folder. Check dns files.

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    Re: Nova 3205 server file + client

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sourcerer View Post
    Hmm. Perhaps it would be worth my while to push my memory up to 256GB (it is on my Threadripper 3970x development system). That would let me push the VM to 128GB and leave elbow room for my dev tools and client. The painful part is that brings my memory cost to $1300 cad (ouchie!) and the fact I have to find a new home for the existing 64GB.

    Worst comes to worst I could always sell some off if it ends up being unfeasible ;)

    Main reason for this is I want to start building an emulator that works a lot better than those Java-based ones out there.
    Hmm what would be the cheapest way to go about hosting these files on a server then w/o any client and server lag? What minimum specs can I purchase and for how much usually? I plan to just host and play for myself lol

    I do have access to a 64gb ram server but only with a 440 gb ssd. Can I utilize this? Has anyone also successfully hosted a public server with these files yet? I'm guessing I just need to open my ports on my server?

    Or would it be best to upgrade my main ssd and also hdd?

    I'm not sure how long I will play these files for. But I do want to check out the game with gm commands and db access. And server editing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaraki Kenpachi View Post
    Hmm what would be the cheapest way to go about hosting these files on a server then w/o any client and server lag? What minimum specs can I purchase and for how much usually? I plan to just host and play for myself lol

    I do have access to a 64gb ram server but only with a 440 gb ssd. Can I utilize this? Has anyone also successfully hosted a public server with these files yet? I'm guessing I just need to open my ports on my server?

    Or would it be best to upgrade my main ssd and also hdd?

    I'm not sure how long I will play these files for. But I do want to check out the game with gm commands and db access. And server editing.
    As I understand it these files are the ones used for pretty much all of the Nova (and newer) private servers. I don't think any of them are using the java emulators. As for using a server to host them, I am assuming an internet-based server. From what I have seen of those it can get pretty costly on a monthly basis to host them (You would need a Windows box rather than Linux). The memory and HDD requirements are pretty high, but a 1TB server should handle it. For memory the more the better and more costly. CPU Cores I would target an 8-core or better server.

    As for a physical box, pretty much any Ryzen 7-9 system could handle it. The new ones can hold 128GB of memory which should be plenty for this server code base - that assumes it will be dedicated and not used for running the client. I do not even look at the big brand PCs - I have built all of my own for 30 years now. If you are interested in rolling your own server here is a list of what I would look for in a gaming server:

    Processor: Ryzen 5700G CPU (has embedded graphics - plenty for server duties)

    Mainboard: ASUS TUF GAMING A520M-PLUS WIFI - or something similar. This one is pretty cheap.

    Memory: I find the TimeTec Pinnacle memory a decent value - it is a couple hundred $$ cheaper than the more well known brands and the reviews I've seen are pretty favorable. Timetec has only recently gotten into the performance memory market. So their prices haven't gone thru the roof yet. I recently bought a grand total of 256GB of this stuff and the cost is a little short of $1300 CAN (around $650 for 128GB). U.S. prices are about 35% cheaper. Most of the big brands (GSkill, Corsair, Kingston, etc) are all hovering around $1800-$2100 for the same stuff. For server duty I would stick close to the 3200mhz memory speed range.

    Hard Drives: You can pick up a 2TB hard drive pretty cheap these days. If you want to get fancy you can put an M.2 SSD drive on that motherboard. I would not put anything less than a 1TB drive on a server, but that's me.

    Power supply : get a good ATX power supply of about 650-700 watts.
    Case: The motherboard I mentioned with fit in a micro-ATX or larger case.

    All told rolling your own server should not cost more than $1000 and a little assembly time.
    Hope that helped.

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    Re: Nova 3205 server file + client

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sourcerer View Post
    As I understand it these files are the ones used for pretty much all of the Nova (and newer) private servers. I don't think any of them are using the java emulators. As for using a server to host them, I am assuming an internet-based server. From what I have seen of those it can get pretty costly on a monthly basis to host them (You would need a Windows box rather than Linux). The memory and HDD requirements are pretty high, but a 1TB server should handle it. For memory the more the better and more costly. CPU Cores I would target an 8-core or better server.

    As for a physical box, pretty much any Ryzen 7-9 system could handle it. The new ones can hold 128GB of memory which should be plenty for this server code base - that assumes it will be dedicated and not used for running the client. I do not even look at the big brand PCs - I have built all of my own for 30 years now. If you are interested in rolling your own server here is a list of what I would look for in a gaming server:

    Processor: Ryzen 5700G CPU (has embedded graphics - plenty for server duties)

    Mainboard: ASUS TUF GAMING A520M-PLUS WIFI - or something similar. This one is pretty cheap.

    Memory: I find the TimeTec Pinnacle memory a decent value - it is a couple hundred $$ cheaper than the more well known brands and the reviews I've seen are pretty favorable. Timetec has only recently gotten into the performance memory market. So their prices haven't gone thru the roof yet. I recently bought a grand total of 256GB of this stuff and the cost is a little short of $1300 CAN (around $650 for 128GB). U.S. prices are about 35% cheaper. Most of the big brands (GSkill, Corsair, Kingston, etc) are all hovering around $1800-$2100 for the same stuff. For server duty I would stick close to the 3200mhz memory speed range.

    Hard Drives: You can pick up a 2TB hard drive pretty cheap these days. If you want to get fancy you can put an M.2 SSD drive on that motherboard. I would not put anything less than a 1TB drive on a server, but that's me.

    Power supply : get a good ATX power supply of about 650-700 watts.
    Case: The motherboard I mentioned with fit in a micro-ATX or larger case.

    All told rolling your own server should not cost more than $1000 and a little assembly time.
    Hope that helped.

    That totally helps! Is this what you're exactly using to host the nova files locally on your pc? And then your gaming pc to run the client? I'm also thinking of setting this server up as a plex server too, but I'm guessing that's a bad idea with these bdo files running at the same time

    Also, what if I ran the 32gb vm files on my dedicated baremetal server that has 450GB SSD, and 64gbs of ram. Would that run these svr files w/o any lag?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaraki Kenpachi View Post
    That totally helps! Is this what you're exactly using to host the nova files locally on your pc? And then your gaming pc to run the client? I'm also thinking of setting this server up as a plex server too, but I'm guessing that's a bad idea with these bdo files running at the same time

    Also, what if I ran the 32gb vm files on my dedicated baremetal server that has 450GB SSD, and 64gbs of ram. Would that run these svr files w/o any lag?
    The system I use is a multi-purpose box built from the ground up to do it all. Servers run in VMWare virtual machines, each with their own dedicated memory and processor space. Up until now I have been able to make do with 64GB memory. But with these monstrous game server environments I need to allocate more resources to the servers VMs. It is not something I would recommend to anyone wanting to build a stand-alone game/plex server.

    I would venture to say just putting the server in a VM would introduce lag as you add a software layer of complexity between the client and the server code.

    I would simply put the the server on that bare metal server, with its 64GB and have a secondary drive (perhaps that 450gb ssd) for swap space. I suspect you will need a little more space if you want to put everything on the same physical drive. I would suggest trying it out as I have outlined it here and if you need more memory buy a second 64GB kit later (make sure it is the same kind and speed!). If you need more storage space, a bigger drive can be had fairly cheaply.

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    Can someone please upload the client? Ledie link always got limit..

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    sorry for newbie question, but is it possible to give to account an admin permissions in DB? one of my quests got bugged and I can't launch the client from the same machine where my server is running (to get an access to the in-game commands).

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    Quote Originally Posted by htwevinq View Post
    sorry for newbie question, but is it possible to give to account an admin permissions in DB? one of my quests got bugged and I can't launch the client from the same machine where my server is running (to get an access to the in-game commands).
    Look here: Nova 3205 server file + client - Page 3 - RaGEZONE - MMO development community

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    LOL I threw 128GB at it and it still wants more!

    System spec:

    AMD Threadripper 3970 (32/64 cores/threads) - 16 cores dedicated to the VM
    256GB DDR4-3200 memory - 128 Dedicated to the VM
    VM Drive - PCIE 4.0 Samsung 980 Pro 2TB M.2 (swapper set to this drive)

    Game runs fine with no lags using Evo Client posted originally by Ledie.
    Last edited by The Sourcerer; 30-05-22 at 01:49 PM.

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    Re: Nova 3205 server file + client

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sourcerer View Post
    Look here:
    Quote Originally Posted by The Sourcerer View Post
    Nova 3205 server file + client - Page 3 - RaGEZONE - MMO development community

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    LOL I threw 128GB at it and it still wants more!
    Yes 128gb Ram is still not enough to protect my ssd from being drained by the field server



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