Good Assembly Program

[ManyBlackPpl]

Welll, I'm trying to get into asm, and I've managed to find a tutorial that seems to be good for beginners, but obviously I'll need an assembly program to test things out. I've tried using TASM, but according to the error i get when i try to run it, the version of TASM I got doesn't run on my 64-bit OS. So, if any1 has a good assembly program that works with a 64-bit OS, then would you mind referring me to it? (program MUST be free, I am cheaper than a hobo and am not willing to pay more than nothing :P). Oh, and if anybody is willing to help me learn ASM, or maybe help me out wherever i need it, then please say so here, I'd really appreciate any help xP.

[MentaL]

[eele]

Search Button is here not for nothing on this forum O.o

Anyway,

google => ollydbg

[ManyBlackPpl]

lol, I'm not looking for ollydbg. Ollydbg only edits already made programs if I'm not mistaken. I'm looking for a program that actually takes a code, and converts it into a newly made program. Maybe I wasn't clear of what I wanted in my first post xO.

[Wucas]

FAsm, MAsm, etc

Ask gwx0, he knows teh shit, honestly ive never coded anything purely out of asm, so i have noooo clue

[ManyBlackPpl]

FAsm, MAsm, etc

Ask gwx0, he knows teh shit, honestly ive never coded anything purely out of asm, so i have noooo clue

alright, thanks I'll give those a go :P. Btw, how long would you say it took you to learn asm well?

[Wucas]

i dont know it well, i learn by trial and error (usually alot of errors), if you gave me something to do compaired to alot of the other devs, it will take me at least 1.5x as long due to me second guessing myself D:

[Team Lion]

I recommend FASM.

www.flatassembler.net

I am actually in the process of making my own programming language and FASM is my backend.


Learning it well is like any other language. Except assembler changes. Every new processor and each individual processor is different. I assume you mean x86 or x64 processors, which are the ones used in pretty much every PC.

Assembler is as powerful as it gets though. It literally is what the processor uses.

[ManyBlackPpl]

alright, thanks for the help guys :P. Is there any1 that is willing to spend a bit of their time helping me out? You don't have to become like a teacher that teaches or anything, but maybe like teach me how to find basic stuff, and how I would edit that or something (in a runnable). Or how I would go about finding stuff. Thanks if you do, if not then it's fine xP.

P.S. Can someone tell me if this makes any sense (I read it off a tutorial)

.MODEL SMALL
.STACK 200H
.CODE
START:


Mov ah, 2
Mov dl, 1
Int 21h


mov ah, 4ch
mov al, 00h
int 21h


ENDSTART

I'm mainly wondering about the model, stack and code stuff. I know what the other stuff is I think.

[Guy]

.MODEL SMALL
.STACK 200H
.CODE
START:


Mov ah, 2
Mov dl, 1
Int 21h


mov ah, 4ch
mov al, 00h
int 21h


ENDSTART

Model specifies the memory model, stack specifies stack size, code marks the beginning of the code segment.


The value 2 is moved into the high-end of register AX.

The value 1 is moved into the low-end of register DX.

Interrupt 0x21 (Hexadecimal) is called.

The value 0x4C (Hexadecimal) is loaded into the high-end of AX, and the value 0 is loaded into the low-end of AX.

Interrupt 0x21 (Hexadecimal) is called, again.

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Anyways, OP, use FASM or MASM. Also, learning this style of ASM through structured programming with it won't necessarily make working with the Gunz client any easier.

[ManyBlackPpl]

oh lol. Then do you have a tutorial or something that will make working with a gunz client easier? Also for some reason when I try and compile that in FASM, it says the Model, Stack, Code and ENDSTART lines are not valid instructions or something. Maybe I'm not suppost to compile but I have no idea :P. But yeah, it'd be prefered if someone could give a tutorial of how to work with gunz clients, or something related.

[Guy]

oh lol. Then do you have a tutorial or something that will make working with a gunz client easier? Also for some reason when I try and compile that in FASM, it says the Model, Stack, Code and ENDSTART lines are not valid instructions or something. Maybe I'm not suppost to compile but I have no idea :P. But yeah, it'd be prefered if someone could give a tutorial of how to work with gunz clients, or something related.

1) Familiarizing yourself with the Windows API, DirectX/Direct3D, and an understanding of ASM are necessary skills; anything else pertaining to executable analysis would be useful.

2) Those are pseudo-instructions specifying the memory model/stack/etc information for the assembler.

3) No such guides truly exist; you can read [ame=http://forum.gamedeception.net/showthread.php?t=16272]my guide[/ame] on working with analysis tools in relation to games and game cheats, but, afaik, that's as close as it'll come.

[ManyBlackPpl]

alright, thanks for all the help and info gWX0, I'm positive it will all be useful :P. Oh, and as a quick question, does any1 know if they can crack hex workshop v6? I know it's not completely related, but I figured that some asm experts can crack hex workshop. If you can like give me it, or at least teach me how you did it, much would be appreciated. But yeah :o. (lol sorry for asking for so much, I feel like such a nab >.< (which i am)).

[dacharles]

IDA Pro gg

[Guy]

IDA Pro gg

IDA Pro is a bloated analyzing tool, not a full-blown assembler. "gg".